** Official 2024 Make or Break Offseason Thread **

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Valanciunas not rejoining New Orleans next season.

Get the man here. Would slot in as the best back-up center in the league and could get Joel some much needed rest throughout the regular season.

Yeah at this point you need legit Embiid insurance. He'd be perfect as a backup and would obviously have plenty of chances to start.

[youngcrev]

Valanciunas not rejoining New Orleans next season.

Get the man here. Would slot in as the best back-up center in the league and could get Joel some much needed rest throughout the regular season.

He's a solid player, but presuming this team is going the max contract route, they've got limited resources to build out the rest of the team. Feels like a luxury that they can't afford unless he's coming really cheap.

It also seems like he'd have more sensible suitors elsewhere that would value him more momentarily and role-wise.

[ankle420breaker]

Valanciunas not rejoining New Orleans next season.

Get the man here. Would slot in as the best back-up center in the league and could get Joel some much needed rest throughout the regular season.

Yes. When Embiid inevitably has to sit out for stretches during the season we won't be completely handicapped. Also presents match up problems when we're healthy as teams will struggle to match our size defensively.

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[youngcrev]

Gordon Hayward looks kinda cooked on the Thunder and is hurt all the time. Feels like a Morey "value" target.

[Arsenal]

Gordon Hayward looks kinda cooked on the Thunder and is hurt all the time. Feels like a Morey "value" target.

For vet min why not? For actual money, no way.

[ProcessDoctor]

Gordon Hayward looks kinda cooked on the Thunder and is hurt all the time. Feels like a Morey "value" target.

And then everyone will throw their arms up during the playoffs when we only have 4 playoff-rotation worthy players still standing.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Well size wins rings. Signing JV is and can only be a positive thing as long as we aren't breaking the bank for a backup center.

[GoSixersBro]

Valanciunas not rejoining New Orleans next season.

Get the man here. Would slot in as the best back-up center in the league and could get Joel some much needed rest throughout the regular season.

He's a solid player, but presuming this team is going the max contract route, they've got limited resources to build out the rest of the team. Feels like a luxury that they can't afford unless he's coming really cheap.

It also seems like he'd have more sensible suitors elsewhere that would value him more momentarily and role-wise.

I don't disagree with you, Morey is too unreliable to actually go out and get the less sexy pieces that actually plug holes in this team's deficiencies. Paul George isn't going to stop the offensive rebounds or exert all of his energy to solely shut down Brunson in that series. All he will do is stagnate an already stagnated offense and turn our most explosive guard since Iverson into a coat rack.

[PhillyFan11]

Well size wins rings. Signing JV is and can only be a positive thing as long as we aren't breaking the bank for a backup center.

Would he represent a significant upgrade to Drummond for the backup role? Feel like Drummond would cost 1/2 the $….unless I’m overvaluing Valanciunas ($8-10M per?)

I’m all for having a better backup plan to Embiid, but I also don’t think Morey should over correct and spend too much on the problem. There’s a very big gap between 6’8 Paul Reed and Mo Bamba and an acceptable backup C solution

[youngcrev]

Valanciunas not rejoining New Orleans next season.

Get the man here. Would slot in as the best back-up center in the league and could get Joel some much needed rest throughout the regular season.

He's a solid player, but presuming this team is going the max contract route, they've got limited resources to build out the rest of the team. Feels like a luxury that they can't afford unless he's coming really cheap.

It also seems like he'd have more sensible suitors elsewhere that would value him more momentarily and role-wise.

I don't disagree with you, Morey is too unreliable to actually go out and get the less sexy pieces that actually plug holes in this team's deficiencies. Paul George isn't going to stop the offensive rebounds or exert all of his energy to solely shut down Brunson in that series. All he will do is stagnate an already stagnated offense and turn our most explosive guard since Iverson into a coat rack.

That seems like a weird assessment of Paul George's game.

[PhillyFan11]

A question I don’t think has been posed…are there any restricted free agents you would pay up for with an offersheet?

Some fairly interesting names: Issac Okoro, Saddiq Bey, Patrick Williams, Obi Toppin, Simone Fontecchio

Don’t know how realistic it is for any of those guys to be let go, but definitely some guys worth kicking the tires on that could help

[Arsenal]

A question I don’t think has been posed…are there any restricted free agents you would pay up for with an offersheet?

Some fairly interesting names: Issac Okoro, Saddiq Bey, Patrick Williams, Obi Toppin, Simone Fontecchio

Don’t know how realistic it is for any of those guys to be let go, but definitely some guys worth kicking the tires on that could help

Maybe target Obi Toppin for $12-15m/yr if the Pacers MAX out Siakam, making it more likely they let Toppin go.

Try to get Fontecchio for around $8m/yr but Pistons most likely match. Maybe they won't if they throw the bag at Assassin lol.

[youngcrev]

Well size wins rings. Signing JV is and can only be a positive thing as long as we aren't breaking the bank for a backup center.

Would he represent a significant upgrade to Drummond for the backup role? Feel like Drummond would cost 1/2 the $….unless I’m overvaluing Valanciunas ($8-10M per?)

I’m all for having a better backup plan to Embiid, but I also don’t think Morey should over correct and spend too much on the problem. There’s a very big gap between 6’8 Paul Reed and Mo Bamba and an acceptable backup C solution

Yeah.

Realistically, you're not investing a lot in a guy that can't play at the same time as your best player. If it's a stretch 4/5 that could see minutes at the same time as Embiid, sure. But they should be able to find reasonably decent innings eater at the position for cheap.

The key to surviving non-Embiid minutes is increasing your talent base in general, not just the center position. Get other players that can reliably generate offense and you can survive a Paul Reed-level player at the 5 for stretches.

[youngcrev]

A question I don’t think has been posed…are there any restricted free agents you would pay up for with an offersheet?

Some fairly interesting names: Issac Okoro, Saddiq Bey, Patrick Williams, Obi Toppin, Simone Fontecchio

Don’t know how realistic it is for any of those guys to be let go, but definitely some guys worth kicking the tires on that could help

Saddiq would interest me, and Atlanta's salary situation is rough. I think he could fill a Jae Crowder type role on a good team. Tough wing that shoots 3s.

Pat Williams will probably forever intrigue and forever underwhelm.

[mjkvol]

Well size wins rings. Signing JV is and can only be a positive thing as long as we aren't breaking the bank for a backup center.

Would he represent a significant upgrade to Drummond for the backup role? Feel like Drummond would cost 1/2 the $….unless I’m overvaluing Valanciunas ($8-10M per?)

I’m all for having a better backup plan to Embiid, but I also don’t think Morey should over correct and spend too much on the problem. There’s a very big gap between 6’8 Paul Reed and Mo Bamba and an acceptable backup C solution

Yeah.

Realistically, you're not investing a lot in a guy that can't play at the same time as your best player. If it's a stretch 4/5 that could see minutes at the same time as Embiid, sure. But they should be able to find reasonably decent innings eater at the position for cheap.

The key to surviving non-Embiid minutes is increasing your talent base in general, not just the center position. Get other players that can reliably generate offense and you can survive a Paul Reed-level player at the 5 for stretches.

I agree, but giving Paul George $50 million kind of limits our options to increase the talent level and get other quality players.

[youngcrev]

Would he represent a significant upgrade to Drummond for the backup role? Feel like Drummond would cost 1/2 the $….unless I’m overvaluing Valanciunas ($8-10M per?)

I’m all for having a better backup plan to Embiid, but I also don’t think Morey should over correct and spend too much on the problem. There’s a very big gap between 6’8 Paul Reed and Mo Bamba and an acceptable backup C solution

Yeah.

Realistically, you're not investing a lot in a guy that can't play at the same time as your best player. If it's a stretch 4/5 that could see minutes at the same time as Embiid, sure. But they should be able to find reasonably decent innings eater at the position for cheap.

The key to surviving non-Embiid minutes is increasing your talent base in general, not just the center position. Get other players that can reliably generate offense and you can survive a Paul Reed-level player at the 5 for stretches.

I agree, but giving Paul George $50 million kind of limits our options to increase the talent level and get other quality players.

Limits your ability to do so beyond the massive increase in the talent level that he himself would represent.

[mjkvol]

Yeah.

Realistically, you're not investing a lot in a guy that can't play at the same time as your best player. If it's a stretch 4/5 that could see minutes at the same time as Embiid, sure. But they should be able to find reasonably decent innings eater at the position for cheap.

The key to surviving non-Embiid minutes is increasing your talent base in general, not just the center position. Get other players that can reliably generate offense and you can survive a Paul Reed-level player at the 5 for stretches.

I agree, but giving Paul George $50 million kind of limits our options to increase the talent level and get other quality players.

Limits your ability to do so beyond the massive increase in the talent level that he himself would represent.

When he's on the floor and if he really cares. George wants no part of playing in Philly, we all know it - the first time he is booed he will check out. There are mercenaries and there are mercenaries, but if I'm going to pay someone stupid money they have to at least really want to be here. I don't want him either, but with Butler we'd have that at the very least.

Beyond that, his 'massive increase in talent' doesn't provide the depth we need at guard and especially in the front court, and does nothing for our rebounding issues. I can't believe we are arguing over whether a 35-year old declining player who is a West coast guy can come in here and make enough of a difference by himself that gets us anywhere beyond where we've been stuck.

[ankle420breaker]

A question I don’t think has been posed…are there any restricted free agents you would pay up for with an offersheet?

Some fairly interesting names: Issac Okoro, Saddiq Bey, Patrick Williams, Obi Toppin, Simone Fontecchio

Don’t know how realistic it is for any of those guys to be let go, but definitely some guys worth kicking the tires on that could help

Saddiq would interest me, and Atlanta's salary situation is rough. I think he could fill a Jae Crowder type role on a good team. Tough wing that shoots 3s.

Pat Williams will probably forever intrigue and forever underwhelm.

Saddiq is absolutely someone to keep an eye on given Atlanta's situation. He's that Knicks type of role player that we could've used this year. Someone who actually make us better against eastern foes like Boston, Milwaukee, and NY.... versatile wing who can play some small ball 4.

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[PhillyFan11]

A question I don’t think has been posed…are there any restricted free agents you would pay up for with an offersheet?

Some fairly interesting names: Issac Okoro, Saddiq Bey, Patrick Williams, Obi Toppin, Simone Fontecchio

Don’t know how realistic it is for any of those guys to be let go, but definitely some guys worth kicking the tires on that could help

Saddiq would interest me, and Atlanta's salary situation is rough. I think he could fill a Jae Crowder type role on a good team. Tough wing that shoots 3s.

Pat Williams will probably forever intrigue and forever underwhelm.

Saddiq is absolutely someone to keep an eye on given Atlanta's situation. He's that Knicks type of role player that we could've used this year. Someone who actually make us better against eastern foes like Boston, Milwaukee, and NY.... versatile wing who can play some small ball 4.

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Obviously depends on how big of a price difference, but I would definitely prefer a 25 year old Bey to the free agent F’s available like O’Neale, Prince or Anderson.

[FireMorey]

I'm all for not going for a high end player and just adding really quality role players but if you look in free agency, there really aren't any. The guys out there will probably be re-signed to their current teams or are RFAs. Then you have Malik Monk types who will probably be vastly overpaid because they are better guys in a weak free agent class. So sure, you might save money by signing some of these guys, but you'll still be overpaying to scale.

I don't see a ton of great options any way you slice it. I really don't think adding Bruce Brown, Malik Monk and KCP makes this closer to a title than just signing say Paul George.