Tom Moore 2.0

[Don]

I think 45 is a very optimistic number, given that the East is much improved over last year, especially some of the playoff teams. I still think the Celtics, Cavs, and Magic are clearly better than us (even with the loss of Hedo), and teams like Toronto should be better than last year. Detroit should be at least neck and neck with us, and despite what Dedicated avows, Atlanta was better than us last year, so will be a good opponent. The upper half of the Western conference is still just as tough to play against. Considering the adjustment that it'll take with the new inexperienced pg's, my high number right now is 42 wins.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Oh, the Magic are better then us, but it's not "Inspite of the Loss of Hedo". They improved their team over Hedo. They have a system of players that will DOMINATE. They're still gonna shoot the 3ball, but now they can back it down low in the post and are bigger and stronger.

Otis Smith made his moves to deal with the Lakers/Celtics. Cavs do not have anything against those 3 teams. LeBron or no LeBron. They're highly outmatched, and LeBron knows it. That's why he said his loyalty is to Akron. He's leaving folks, it's just who's it gonna be?

But in anycase, the top-3 teams are the same. That's not the "East Improving". That's the top-dogs standing. But to be honest? Sheed's on the vast decline. He's nothing more then a 20-25 MPG Forward in the league. Daniels is a decent pick-up.

People are thinking of "Old Sheed". That's gone now, he sucked ASS in Detroit.

Don: Let me make it clear, we were 3-1 Against Atlanta. With every win coming in double-digit blowout fashion. And the one loss was strictly Mo Cheeks-esque. We were up 20+ in that game.

Atlanta has NO big depth, it has no banging outside of Horford. It has no inside game.

These are things you need to be a good team. They were strictly .500 against NBA playoff teams.

Wanna know what that means?

Atlanta beat on the little weaklings of the East/West. Our win-streaks came against the best of both conferences.

[83SixersRocked]

It'd be nice to see a post without somebody getting disparaged... or lectured for that matter. Wallace is a nice complementary piece for the Celtics, and he's more if KG misses the playoffs again (presuming they get there). I think most of us would agree that Rasheed's not the player he once was, but he can still play, he's playoff-tested, and he's won a title (in Detroit).

While I think Rasheed does make them better, I'm concerned about the wear and tear on Pierce's odometer. If he declines significantly, the Celts are in trouble. I think that'll start this year, though it my not be until deep in the playoffs when it's exposed (or refuted). Pierce vs Artest will be interesting to watch this year, as will Pierce vs Jefferson.

[Don]

lol. Atlanta was in the playoffs and have gotten better the last couple of year. They lost in the Conf semi's this past year, and made it to the first round the previous year. They beat Miami in the first round last season, and lost to Cleveland in the second. Oh, forgot- you think Cleveland sucks too, right? Atlanta was a .500 team- we were the same thing. They have been slightly better than us overall. They beat up on bad teams, and we sometimes were able to beat good teams, and lost to many bad teams. Hopefully with Brand healthy we will be at a higher level, but you never know.

[corwin]

Atlanta has a nice young team but I don't know if they're any better than the Sixers. I'm not sold on Bibby, they lack depth & Horford playing out of position needs to be corrected. IMO they should move Josh Smith for a center & that would correct one huge problem.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

lol. Atlanta was in the playoffs and have gotten better the last couple of year. They lost in the Conf semi's this past year, and made it to the first round the previous year. They beat Miami in the first round last season, and lost to Cleveland in the second. Oh, forgot- you think Cleveland sucks too, right? Atlanta was a .500 team- we were the same thing. They have been slightly better than us overall. They beat up on bad teams, and we sometimes were able to beat good teams, and lost to many bad teams. Hopefully with Brand healthy we will be at a higher level, but you never know.

Atlanta SUCKS, period. The Heat only have what, 3-4 players in their 12 man rotation? They played good defense, so I'll give them that. But we would've beaten MIA in 6 not 7.

Cleveland is a slightly above average playoff team. Not a 66 win team. That's what LBJ can do for ya . With Orlando's increased size and post game and Boston's Veteran Savvy, their not making the NBA Finals. Not even close.


They have not been "slightly better then us". Maybe in 2007, because Mo Cheeks was playing Reggie Evans for 30+ MPG and Willie Green. Good god. But we were 3-1 and blew them out by dbl-digits nearly every time.

Let me put emphasis on this: We lost our possibly legit 2nd option(Thad Young) in the 2nd QTR. Atlanta STILL couldn't come close, in spite of Josh Smith exploding in that game.

When you play Atlanta, you EXPECT to win. Period, done. End of story.

[ankle420breaker]

Atlanta had a better season than us last year, better post season, and a better off season. We're not good enough to expect to win anything.

[76ers76ers]

Atlanta had a better season than us last year, better post season, and a better off season. We're not good enough to expect to win anything.

I would have to agree. I think they were better than us overall. But if switched Igoudala with Joe Johnson, would we be better than Atlanta?? Not saying Atlanta would do this. But just a random question.

[sweetlou23]

I think we definitely will improve over last year. Essentially, we picked up Brand, Jason Smith, Kapano and Jrue, and lost miller, evans, ratliff and marshall. We also finally have an offensive system. From top to bottom, this is probably the most talented and versatile roster we have had since the eighties. We will be better defensively and offensively. We finally will have a halfcourt game to go along with our running game. We have the talent necessary to run the princeton offense. I see no reason why our players will not continue to develop because all of our young players have a lot of upside and work hard. All we need is chemistry, and we have a core group of players who already have that. Unless we regress, we will be contending for the fourth playoff spot in the east.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Atlanta had a better season than us last year, better post season, and a better off season. We're not good enough to expect to win anything.

VS Dallas: 1-1
VS Houston: 1-1
VS San Antonio: 0-2
VS Lakers: 1-1
VS Portland:1-1
VS Utah: 0-1
VS Denver: 1-1
VS New Orleans: 2-0

Record VS West:

7-8


They were 10-9 against the East

So, they were 17-17 or .500 against Playoff teams.

By comparison, Sixers VS Playoff teams, k?

VS Atlanta: 3-1(Could be 4-0 but bench was horrible)
VS Orlando: 0-4
VS Boston: 0-4
VS Chicago: 2-2
VS Detroit: 2-1
VS Cleveland: 1-3
VS Miami: 1-2

9-16

But all that says is that we couldn't match up with the big 3. Otherwise,
we were winning at a similar rate to the Hawks.

Now Western Conference Foes:

VS Utah: 0-2
VS Lakers: 1-1
VS Denver: 0-1
VS San Antonio: 1-1
VS Houston: 2-0
VS Portland: 2-0
VS Dallas:0-2
VS New Orleans:0-2


I'm not about to say we match the Lakers. But we typically play at
our best against the best. Even the losses against Dallas were close.
Only team that blew us out is Utah. And New Orleans one game.

We were competive against the West.


6-9.

We were 16-25 against Playoff teams.

Can't deny we were worse. But we played the top teams a bit better then
the Hawks did.

[ankle420breaker]

Ok, so how does our 15-25 record against playoff teams translate over to us being good enough to "expect" to beat another playoff team?

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Because we destroyed that team in every single game we played? Even when we lost our legit 2nd option on offense in Thad Young?

Because that team has no inside post game? Because that team has 2 chucking losers(Josh Smith+Jamal Crawford) in it's lineup?

Because that team's depth is worse then the Thunder?

Yeah, the Hawks have benefitted from weak teams.

[Sixerscan]

Because we destroyed that team in every single game we played?

This is false.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Because we destroyed that team in every single game we played?

This is false

Oh right, our bench let us down even though we were up 20+.

Quit grasping for straws, US>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ATL.

[Sixerscan]

Because we destroyed that team in every single game we played?

This is false

Oh right, our bench let us down even though we were up 20+.

Quit grasping for straws, US>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ATL.

You're the one making things up, as usual. Seriously it took me like 20 seconds to look at the Sixers schedule last year to figure out you pulled that out of your ass.

Anyway, by your logic the Bobcats were better than the Lakers last year, since they acually won every time they played them.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Uh no. Early in the season, we were at Atlanta. We dominated the First Quarter against them. But we eventually ended up losing.

Okay, I checked. 34-18=16 PT lead.

It was a part of that early part of the season where our offense struggled with Brand.

[tmoore]

Heard the Sixers' new TV analyst is going to be Ed Pinckney. Announcing it at 6 p.m. today.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

WHO?

[tmoore]

He should be good.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

I won't be negative in my judgment. With the exception of Bob Salmi(UGH). CSN found pretty good catches.

Would've largely perferred Mad Dog.