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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1941 » by sixers hoops » Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:29 pm

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Probably something to watch.


For us? I feel like that player option would be a turnoff for Morey.

Team option, it’d be a nice chip to have to use in a trade around the draft like they did with Green in getting Melton.

I’m pretty sure we’d need to offer more salary than that to match fwiw.


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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1942 » by Skates » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:03 pm

Bruce Brown is a much younger and more athletic version of PJ Tucker from five years ago, not quite as good of a three point shooter but can actually make layups and get to the rim.
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Post#1943 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:18 am

One thing that annoys me about Morey is how quickly he gives up on young guys. Julian Champagnie would be giving this team incredible two-way play in reserve wing role right about now. He'd be an upgrade over Cov and Morris and be equal to Batum.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1944 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:22 am

Kobblehead wrote:One thing that annoys me about Morey is how quickly he gives up on young guys. Julian Champagnie would be giving this team incredible two-way play in reserve wing role right about now. He'd be an upgrade over Cov and Morris and be equal to Batum.


He's been solid in San Antonio. He's hitting his threes, defending well. I had high hopes for him.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1945 » by Stanford » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:31 am

I honestly thought he was one of the worst players we've had here
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1946 » by M2J » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:42 am

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Post#1947 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:43 am

Not to cry over spilled milk, but it would have been cool in an alternate timeline to have Isaiah Joe, Charles Bassey, and Julian Champagnie as cheap, homegrown depth off our bench.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1948 » by SixthStreet » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:09 am

I don't think the deadline is the time to make a trade with the 1st rounders. Will get more bang for the buck in the offseason. I'd give it a run with this roster, let Tobias hurt me one last time.
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Post#1949 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:02 am

Dejounte’s salary is only $18M
Jerami Grant’s salary is only $27M

We can match that amount of salary with:
Melton
Marcus Morris
Robert Covington
Korkmaz
Danuel House Jr.

Is it worth to trade salaries plus the following picks for those two?
2026 OKC 1st
2028 LAC 1st
2029 LAC 1st
2026 Sixers pick swap
2028 Sixers pick swap
2030 Sixers pick swap

Sixers team after the trade:
Dejounte Murray/Pat Beverly
Tyrese Maxey/Oubre
Tobias Harris/Nic Batum
Jerami Grant/KJ Martin Jr
Joel Embiid/Paul Reed

Outlook:
You got a cap friendly team and some wiggle room with Tobi’s contract expiring. You also got a lot of depth of Dejounte-Maxey-Jerami Grant-Tobias to steal 1-2 games against the Celtics without 100% Joel.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1950 » by eyeatoma » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:26 am

76ciology wrote:Dejounte’s salary is only $18M
Jerami Grant’s salary is only $27M

We can match that amount of salary with:
Melton
Marcus Morris
Korkmaz
Danuel House Jr.

Is it worth to trade salaries plus the following picks for those two?
2026 OKC 1st
2028 LAC 1st
2029 LAC 1st
2026 Sixers pick swap
2028 Sixers pick swap
2030 Sixers pick swap

Sixers team after the trade:
Dejounte Murray/Pat Beverly
Tyrese Maxey/Oubre
Tobias Harris/Nic Batum
Jerami Grant/KJ Martin Jr
Joel Embiid/Paul Reed

Outlook:
You got a cap friendly team and some wiggle room with Tobi’s contract expiring. You also got a lot of depth of Dejounte-Maxey-Jerami Grant-Tobias to steal 1-2 games against the Celtics without 100% Joel.


I'd do this trade. We would be a defensive monster, and would be able to score in bunches. Sad to lose Melton but I think the fit would be good...Bonus is you keep Tobias this season and then can get off his contract in the offseason and stock up.
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Post#1951 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:47 am

Windy’s podcast with Bobby Marks
- In the new CBA, the third max player has to play like a REAL max player.
- Alternative to a max player could be signing a couple of $20+M player. That’s probably where we are now.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1952 » by eyeatoma » Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:22 pm

76ciology wrote:Windy’s podcast with Bobby Marks
- In the new CBA, the third max player has to play like a REAL max player.
- Alternative to a max player could be signing a couple of $20+M player. That’s probably where we are now.
Meaning what? We trading for Murray and Grant?

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1953 » by M2J » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:03 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
76ciology wrote:Windy’s podcast with Bobby Marks
- In the new CBA, the third max player has to play like a REAL max player.
- Alternative to a max player could be signing a couple of $20+M player. That’s probably where we are now.
Meaning what? We trading for Murray and Grant?

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I'm hoping Murray and Tobias for 20
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1954 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:13 pm

76ciology wrote:Windy’s podcast with Bobby Marks
- In the new CBA, the third max player has to play like a REAL max player.
- Alternative to a max player could be signing a couple of $20+M player. That’s probably where we are now.


If that's the case, a trade of Harris plus picks to Brooklyn for Bridges and Johnson makes sense. Both Bridges and Johnson are on multiyear contracts in the less than $25m range.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1955 » by youngcrev » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:29 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
76ciology wrote:Windy’s podcast with Bobby Marks
- In the new CBA, the third max player has to play like a REAL max player.
- Alternative to a max player could be signing a couple of $20+M player. That’s probably where we are now.


If that's the case, a trade of Harris plus picks to Brooklyn for Bridges and Johnson makes sense. Both Bridges and Johnson are on multiyear contracts in the less than $25m range.


Makes sense for us regardless, but they don't have the assets to acquire Mikal alone.
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Post#1956 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:35 pm

I think Mikal Bridges' stock is down right now. He's shooting way below league average from three and his defensive impact is very minimal at this point.

Brooklyn can hold steady at a high asking price and run the risk of just being stuck with a player who is devolving into a losing player, tank commander before their very eyes.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1957 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:36 pm

Embiid leads the entire NBA in FGA per game between 15-19 feet (3.9) and also leads the entire NBA in FG% on shots between 15-19 feet (60.5%!!!)

The league average FG% around the rim is 59.7%. The long-2 is legitimately a layup for Embiid
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1958 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:38 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
76ciology wrote:Windy’s podcast with Bobby Marks
- In the new CBA, the third max player has to play like a REAL max player.
- Alternative to a max player could be signing a couple of $20+M player. That’s probably where we are now.
Meaning what? We trading for Murray and Grant?

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If you ask me, something like that is the likely scenario for us if we can’t find a REAL max level type player to trade our picks and cap/expiring with.
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Post#1959 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:44 pm

The appeal of trading for Mikal Bridges is the hope that he can return to his former 3&D glory.

But there is very much risk involved, given that he appears to just want to be a mindless scorer that earns a big bag in a couple of years.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1960 » by zaz102 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:04 pm

Johnson and Bridges would be perfect. However, I don't think Brooklyn would trade Bridges right now. And if they did, I wouldn't be surprised if OKC or some other team outbid us for Bridges.

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