Tom Moore 3.0

[smssjp20]

Jordan after the Denver game: "We're just beginning to go uptown. You never know where this can take us. We hope it gets us going."

EJ has to get into New York more often. The NBA Draft is held in midtown.

[ankle420breaker]

Excuse me for being blunt, but Jordan needs to shut up about 'going uptown.' Our last two wins were against opponents missing their best two players, and we did just about everything we could to relinquish that 4th quarter lead last night vs. Denver. In between our last two wins, we played about as pitiful as we have all year against the Clippers. Seriously, who's he kidding?

Nothing against Willie Green, but he played as much as Holiday and Speights combined in last night's game. We need to define the roles on this squad already and carve out some kind of minute distribution that we can stick to consistently. This whole thing where EJ goes with what he feels on any given night obviously isn't working. Thad also only got 22 minutes of action. We aren't going to go uptown without any sense of order in the rotation, especially when its at the expense of the progression of our core players going forward. Jordan also doesn't seem to grasp the concept of not being able to go uptown without any attention being paid to the defensive side of the ball.

[tk76]

So what would be E.J. dream roster? And I'm only being partly disingenuous...

Maybe the Wizards roster but with Brad Miller in place of Haywood and Ripinstead of Butler?

I'll try:

Love
Jamison
Rip
Arenas
AI


How many games does that team win in E.J.s system?

[tmoore]

Am told there's "nothing" to a report in today's Cleveland Plain-Dealer that says the Sixers among the teams trying to shed some salary. The idea would be to trade a player with a guaranteed contract for one without a guarantee (like the Jazz did with Eric Maynor for Jason Hart) and then waive the non-guaranteed guy by Wednesday's deadline. Rodney Carney, Royal Ivey and Primoz Brezec are Sixers with one-year guarantees for their respective veterans' minimums. With Iverson, who is expected to be picked up for the rest of the season, the Sixers have 14 players under contract.

[steveb21]

Tom, have you heard if anything is brewing between the Jazz & the Sixers? It looks like they're ready to deal. I've even seen some interest in Brand from posters on their board. I guess the centerpiece of any deal with them would be Boozer and his expiring contract...

[tk76]

Tom, have you heard if anything is brewing between the Jazz & the Sixers? It looks like they're ready to deal. I've even seen some interest in Brand from posters on their board. I guess the centerpiece of any deal with them would be Boozer and his expiring contract...

Hard to make a deal when both teams want to dump salary more than anything. The Sixers need a team willing to take on salary, no a fellow seller.

[dbodner]

Yeah. the only real long term deals they have (besides deron) are millsap and okur. I would assume millsap is the one piece they'd be looking to keep (or, at least, not trade as a straight salary dump).

You could probably get them to trade Kirilenko for a deal of the same length (Sammy + useful player), but not sure we'd want to do that.

Maybe something like Green, Kapono and Williams for Kirilenko? I can't see Utah wanting Williams. But could you imagine Jrue/Iguodala/Kirilenko/Brand/Dalembert defensively? With any coach with a clue that would be a top 5 defensive team.

Which means we'd probably be around 20th.

[tmoore]

Tom, have you heard if anything is brewing between the Jazz & the Sixers? It looks like they're ready to deal. I've even seen some interest in Brand from posters on their board. I guess the centerpiece of any deal with them would be Boozer and his expiring contract...

Haven't heard anything about the Jazz and Sixers. Not sure why Utah would want Brand for Boozer, plus Jazz is trying to deal Kirilenko (this year and one more).

[dbodner]

Maybe this would help both teams financial situation ?

Options with Utah are limited.

[ankle420breaker]

I'd be on board with dbodner's idea to package Green, Kapono, and Lou for Kirilenko. His contract is big, but it also expires at the same time as Dalembert's which would give us more options that summer. Jrue, Iguodala, Kirilenko, Brand, Sam would be rock solid defensively, but I'm sure EJ would make a point to never play them all together.

[dbodner]

The problem with that (besides I'm not sure if they'd take on Williams long-term contract), the Sixers would be increasing their salary for next year, and we're already over the projected luxury tax amount.

[Mojo7]

I'd be on board with dbodner's idea to package Green, Kapono, and Lou for Kirilenko. His contract is big, but it also expires at the same time as Dalembert's which would give us more options that summer. Jrue, Iguodala, Kirilenko, Brand, Sam would be rock solid defensively, but I'm sure EJ would make a point to never play them all together.

Shoot, that unit, coached by Thibs, could hold teams to 1st half college hoops scores on the regular

[dbodner]

updated the article to include a permutation of the Green + Kapono + Williams deal that could work for both teams. My primary focus on both teams is financial, with the Sixers goal being to decrease committed salary for next year, and the Jazz goal to decrease comitted salary this year.

[sweetlou23]

Yeah. the only real long term deals they have (besides deron) are millsap and okur. I would assume millsap is the one piece they'd be looking to keep (or, at least, not trade as a straight salary dump).

You could probably get them to trade Kirilenko for a deal of the same length (Sammy + useful player), but not sure we'd want to do that.

Maybe something like Green, Kapono and Williams for Kirilenko? I can't see Utah wanting Williams. But could you imagine Jrue/Iguodala/Kirilenko/Brand/Dalembert defensively? With any coach with a clue that would be a top 5 defensive team.

Which means we'd probably be around 20th.

That can't score.

[sweetlou23]

The problem with that (besides I'm not sure if they'd take on Williams long-term contract), the Sixers would be increasing their salary for next year, and we're already over the projected luxury tax amount.

Lou has three years left on a 5 mil deal. hardly a contract problem. Also, they could trade lou with ease. Geeze where do you come up with this garbage?

[tk76]

A reasonable lateral move. Doubt either team would be all that motivated to make that deal. Sloan might kill Sam before his deal expires. Kapono and Lou are not exactly Sloan type players either.

[The Sixer Fixer]

Sam might not be a Sloan type of guy, but that team really needs a defensive oriented center if they want to go anywhere. The trio of Okur, Boozer and Millsap are all pretty weak defensively.

What about something centered around Okur and Korver for Sam? Maybe add other smaller pieces to allow Utah to save more $$ this year. For us, we take on an additional year of Okur (over Sam), but we get savings next year with Korver's expiring deal. Plus, Okur might be the type of center who would fit well here (if we aren't going to play Sam more minutes for D purposes anyhow). Okur is a good outside shooter who might help spread the floor for others.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Why not merely switch the lineup?

C-Jason Smith
PF-Elton Brand
SF-Andre Iguodala
SG-Rodney Carney
PG-Jrue Holiday

[bigdavid]

Why are we so anxious to get rid of Sam? If we had a coach who knows what he is doing Sam could be a double double machine, even with all his faults. Sams contract expires next year then you will see lots of interest in him.

I would like to see us bring back Moses Malone to coach Sam. That seemed to work out well in the past.

[agiaco]

With any coach with a clue that would be a top 5 defensive team.

Which means we'd probably be around 20th.

haha so true