The Sixerfan1976 Update Thread

Mahorn at the 4 · Post #1 » by **Mahorn at the 4** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 4:00 pm

The SUns want to deal Amare to the eastern conf. We match up well in a trade.

Miller's expiring, Young and Speights
or
Miller, Speights, picks

Plus, they owe us for the Charles trade.

sixerfan1976 · Post #2 » by **sixerfan1976** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 4:05 pm

i am sure they feel they owe us...lol

with the brand injury....i dont see us making a major move for amare.

nothing i have heard has said we want to trade for amare

i would never trade thad AND speights to them when amare can walk in a year

i wouldnt get your hopes up

bedjaw · Post #3 » by **bedjaw** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 4:06 pm

I know this was not addressed to me but they have to be kicking the tires. Don't they? Amare's best years were actually when he played alot of 5. So Amare and EB could "possibly" play together. We have a big expiring in AM and a stable of young talent. I would bet my house that Ed is seriously considering Amare. We'll see in the next few weeks.

Mahorn at the 4 · Post #4 » by **Mahorn at the 4** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 4:09 pm

Sixerfan,

Stars win in this league. Boston is the perfect example. The chance is there to get a top young big man. I say take the chance. He will enjoy the system and want to re-sign.

We have 2 good young PF's, we can afford to move Young. When Brand returns, we move Amare to the 5. Use Dalembert to trade for a PG...Hinrich?

sixerfan1976 · Post #5 » by **sixerfan1976** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 4:21 pm

you have to convince someone to take dalembert. It aint easy.

Are you feeling good about playing rest of season with Lou Will and Ivey as your only pg guards? Neither is a true point guard?

Look...dont shoot the messenger..but nothing I have heard says we are after him. Sorry.

The Sixer Fixer · Post #6 » by **The Sixer Fixer** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 4:26 pm

Ed was on the radio yesterday and he said he has no intention of making a deal for anyone to replace Brand. He also said he has no interest in making deals that send out our young players so I can't see any way we could bring in a big time player.

Post #7 » by **The Guilty Party** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 4:51 pm

sixerfan1976 wrote:Are you feeling good about playing rest of season with Lou Will and Ivey as your only pg guards? Neither is a true point guard?

I am. Why? Because we aren't winning anything this year and Andre Miller is walking after this season. What "true PG" are we obtaining this summer for the MLE? At some point, you have to let Lou Williams sink or swim and this is a pretty damn good season to see if he can at least doggy paddle.

Mahorn at the 4 · Post #8 » by **Mahorn at the 4** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 4:53 pm

If a young playr the caliber of Amare is there, you must go for it. Championship teams in this league have 2-3 very special players. A player like Amare makes everyone so much better.

In regards to a PG, we can go with Williams for this year, then get one in the off-season.

Post #9 » by **The Guilty Party** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 4:53 pm

The Sixer Fixer wrote:Ed was on the radio yesterday and he said he has no intention of making a deal for anyone to replace Brand. He also said he has no interest in making deals that send out our young players so I can't see any way we could bring in a big time player.

Of course he has no intention. We're the 7th seed in the East, baby! PLAYOFFS!!! Why do something that would change our fate to be the 7th seed every year??

This Stefanski guy is good!

Gsraider · Post #10 » by **Gsraider** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 5:01 pm

Hey Sixerfan, so I don't have to search for anything new from you in other threads, if Amare is not on the radar screen, anything new to pass along on anything trade related?

Post #11 » by **tk76** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 5:19 pm

Why not just make this a SF1976 thread where he can give updates if he has them? (regardless of the players involved.)

bebopdeluxe · Post #12 » by **bebopdeluxe** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 5:46 pm

I'm down with that, tk.

And in that vein, has there been ANY talk about Kirk Hinrich? With BRand now gone for the season, it sounds like the perfect time to bring a guy like Hinrich in and let him jell with the team for 30-35 games (and hopefully a playoff series) before Brand gets back...

Mahorn at the 4 · Post #13 » by **Mahorn at the 4** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 7:11 pm

With this type of player on the market, and the 6ers in position to possibly get it done, Ed has t be involved. This has happened quickly, so perhaps Sixerfan's sources have yet to hear anything.

Think about this lineup next year:

PG- tbd-hopefully Dalembert goes for a Hinrich type
SG- Green
SF- Iguodala
PF- Brand
C- Amare

Williams, Evans, Smith, fillers on the bench.

Post #14 » by **The Guilty Party** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 7:38 pm

You know I've always been a SF76 fan... but the source was apparently out of the loop on draft night if I recall correctly.

Post #15 » by **tk76** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 8:31 pm

Either way, always good for some lively discussion.

SmittyTheGreat · Post #16 » by **SmittyTheGreat** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 8:33 pm

The Sixer Fixer wrote:Ed was on the radio yesterday and he said he has no intention of making a deal for anyone to replace Brand.

Smokescreen.

Gsraider · Post #17 » by **Gsraider** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 8:44 pm

What a great thread idea. Now, the only thing this thread needs is Sixerfan and some information to daydream about:)

The Sixer Fixer · Post #18 » by **The Sixer Fixer** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 9:04 pm

SmittyTheGreat wrote:
The Sixer Fixer wrote:Ed was on the radio yesterday and he said he has no intention of making a deal for anyone to replace Brand.

Smokescreen.

Doubt it. Reason I say that is in that same interview he did leave open the possibility of moving Miller for something. Based on that, there's no reason to smokescreen and say you aren't looking to fill Brand's spot. He seemed comfortable with the idea that Evans and Speights would get more time (and Thad would continue to get extended minutes at PF).

If he does change his mind and get a PF, it better be someone with an expiring deal. Just no reason to create a bigger logjam for minutes at the PF/C positions next year.

Gsraider · Post #19 » by **Gsraider** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 10:34 pm

Since this thread started about Amare, why shouldn't 76ers shoot for the moon and throw something out there for the Suns to look at, and likely reject? J.A. Adande suggested today that he thought the Suns might be as interested in clearing payroll as they are in what they get back for Amare in any trade they consider.

If that's the case, doesn't the new CBA suggest that a team over the cap (the Suns) must take back 75% of the player's salary that they are unloading? If so, Amare's salary of $15,070,550 would require that the Suns take back about $11.3 in salaries. If they want to cut costs and get back something to at least try to sell to the fans, offer Andre Miller and Jason Smith, which just gets you over that threshold. Part of this season's salary is paid already, but generally speaking, the Suns would be shedding about $50 million owed to Amare and taking back only about $12.7 million guaranteed. At the same time, they could make a futile attempt like most teams do after making this type of trade, to talk about how good of a prospect and big man replacement for Amare that Jason Smith is, and what an asset it is to not only obtain a good player like Miller, but to have his rights to potentially extend or use in a sign and trade next year.

Sounds ridiculous, but after the P. Gasol trade last year, I would try anything and see if it sticks. I also apologize if this belongs in the trade proposal thread.

Post #20 » by **The Guilty Party** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 11:29 pm

A couple of things are different here....

1) I'm sure they can get a better prospect than an injured Jason Smith

2) Steve Kerr (as bad as he may be and as handstrung financially as he is) is not Chris Wallace. Even Wallace got back 2 young players (Crittenton and Marc Gasol) plus a draft pick. Amare is going to be fairly expensive and rightfully so.