The SF1976 Draft Thread (Final Update On Page 90)

[The Sixer Fixer]

derozan shot 17% from 3 in college... thats disheartening... but if you look at him down the stretch of the season... he was playing great.... its hard to pass on someone like him if hes there... it would further add to our "most athletic team" in the league status lol

Exactly - you can't evaluate him IMO by looking at his season #'s. It was like night and day between the player he was at the start of the season and who he was at the end. That's not concerning to me at all too because he was a freshman and it takes time to adjust from HS. I saw a lot of USC this year and I will say if he's there and we pass on him for someone like Lawson or Maynor we are absolute fools.

His mid-range game was vastly improved during his 1st year. Also, I firmly believe the 3 pt shooting will come too. He has good form, he just needs more reps to get better. With his game, he never really had to rely on shooting from deep to score so that part of his game is still relatively new to him. Just need to be patient. He needs some work on his handle too, but again, it will come.

Having said all that, I see no way he's still there at 17....no chance. Someone else would move up before that and grab him if he slipped past 9.

[Westbrook36ptII]

If we got Derozan then what the heck are we going to do with Iguodala and Thad? It doesn't make sense.

[Gsraider]

.. i dont know how size can be a knock with this guy... have u seen how he uses his body and strength to get to the rim? his shot is solid... i would LOVE lawson, he will be better than felton and will be a pure PG version of jameer nelson

Because most of the knocks on his size come at the area where I don't think people focus enough on....defense. My concern over Lawson's size doesn't even exist on offense. Defensively however, the question is whether his strength can overcome other guards backing him down, which is a real concern. That said, as I mentioned in my post, I won't be disappointed if Philly takes him. I just cannot ignore this as a realistic issue at the NBA level. This assumes that Jordan's Sixers even play defense however.

[Gsraider]

If we got Derozan then what the heck are we going to do with Iguodala and Thad? It doesn't make sense.

From what I have read, DeRozan is a SG and while I would rather see Iguodala tried at SG, Jordan seems to view him as a SF. Young is probably best suited for SF, rather than PF, but he certainly isn't a SG. In the end, I'm not sure he's the right pick, but like Jennings, does taking the best talent prevail if he's available when Philly picks?

[STChaser]

I don't think we'll have to trade one of our core to move up to get DeRozan. I think Lou is the odd man out because he's so far proven to not have the PG mentality and he's too short to play the 2 assuming we draft another PG in the 6 foot range. Lou should have decent value though due to his numbers coming off the bench and his age. I would think DeRozan would be inserted at the 2 with Iguodala at the 3 and Thaddeus splitting minutes between the 3 and 4.

Another option that may be available to us is Nick Young. Now I've said for quite some time that I'd love to have a 6'6 SG with great quickness on our roster. I think that with Foye going to the Wizards, they now have a plethora of guards but they lack depth in their frontcourt. They now have Critterton, Foye, Arenas, Young, James, and Stevenson. That's way too many guards in my opinion.

Perhaps we could somehow unload Sam or Brand for Nick Young and some filler (not sure who else I'd want from their roster that might be tradable - maybe Dominic McGuire would be nice) from them to make the deal work. Brand would also be a guy I'd love to unload if it meant getting Nick Young and picks from the Wizards. Maybe Eddie Jordan's connections with the Wizards could also work in our favor in making a trade work.


STChaser

[krazyjvilled]

actually, wow, lawson shot 47% from 3... if you look at their numbers... both combine and final season in college of lawson http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ty-Lawson-485/ and nelson http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jam ... 736/links/ it is damn near identical....

i still maintain with lawson you are getting the better pure PG version of jameer nelson... which is a fine player in my book and a very good starting PG for the next 8 years

[Sixerscan]

i really do not want derozen anywhere near this team. he's an athlete without any actual basketball skills. those kind of guys almost always flop.

[Sixersftw]

i really do not want derozen anywhere near this team. he's an athlete without any actual basketball skills. those kind of guys almost always flop.

Well I think you have forgotten about Gerald "don't call me Tmac" Green. Err..nevermind.

Too bad this guy doesn't even have the range green has.

[tk76]

actually, wow, lawson shot 47% from 3... if you look at their numbers... both combine and final season in college of lawson http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ty-Lawson-485/ and nelson http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jam ... 736/links/ it is damn near identical....

i still maintain with lawson you are getting the better pure PG version of jameer nelson... which is a fine player in my book and a very good starting PG for the next 8 years

Yes the measurements were similar. But the stats are comparing Lawson's last year at UNC to Jameer's 2008/9 NBA stats- which had him on the All-Star team.

[krazyjvilled]

o shoot lol, i did not realize that was his nba stats... my bad

[Slacktard]

People were saying DeRozan shot a lot better later in the season so I went back and looked at his last 2 months

His last 2 months(14 gp):
PPG:15
FGM:98 (7 PG)
FGA:160 (11.43 PG)
FG%:61.25%
FTM:50 (3.57 PG)
FTA:74 (5.29 PG)
FT%:67.56%
3PM:5 (0.36 PG)
3PA:18 (1.29 PG)
3P%:27.7%
OFF:45 (3.21 PG)
DEF:49 (3.5 PG)
TOT:94 (6.71 PG)
AST:27 (1.93 PG)
TO:23 (1.64 PG)
STL:11 (0.79 PG)

15 PPG, 61.25 FG%, but 27.7% from 3 point range and look at those rebounding totals. He was definitely not playing much time at SG for USC. Those are forward stats. So we're taking a guy who was basically a SF in college and who has a really REALLY weak long-range game and thinking he can become a SG? Could he? Possibly... He gets compared to Josh Howard a lot and Howard didn't start off his college career a very good 3 point shooter and now he's an average or maybe a little above average 3 point shooter in the NBA. I think Derozan could turn into more of a Corey Maggette though someone who probably has more of a SF game in him, but from time to time teams try to plug in at SG. A guy who isn't a very good 3 pointer and doesn't have a great long range game. I think he'd be more of a slasher then Maggette though.

Problem with that description is I just described Andre Iguodala. On a team where you have other players who have good outside games I could see Derozan fitting in really well. On the Sixers? Not so much. If he slides to us and the PG's available are like Teague/Maynor. I think Derozan would be best player avail, but he is not a really good fit for our team.

[Kevin12]

Well Henderson can't shoot either.

Players like Derozen and Henderson will still be solid in the NBA because they are competitors.

They bring it every night and overachieve on a daily basis.

That's why Derozen is a lottery pick and why I would want him on our team.

[Sixerscan]

DeRozan overachieves? He was like the most athletic player in college basketball last year and he still stunk.

[Kevin12]

I mean from a basketball sense.

He overachieves in the sense that he is solely an athlete with no basketball skills.

He competes every night. He will go up against a Kobe Bryant and bring it and feed off it.

[Westbrook36ptII]

Gargano on WIP said Stefanski told him that he called Portland and inquired about Bayless.

Said the Sixers are trying to deal for a PG too.

[sixerfan1976]

interesting

[tk76]

Gargano on WIP said Stefanski told him that he called Portland and inquired about Bayless.

Said the Sixers are trying to deal for a PG too.

Well they have zero PG's on the roster, so I assume he is trying to get one...

[Westbrook36ptII]

I don't think he meant anything was imminent though. He said he was talking to Stefanski and they were talking about how so many young PGs were on the trading block, and Gargano said why don't you call Portland and inquire about Bayless and Stefanski said "I already did." He said that he's been calling other teams too.

That is how Gargano said it.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Portland is high on Bayless, that'll at least Cost Speights and this year's draft pick.

Jennings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bayless. Let alone Speights. Stefanski: If Jennings is there at #17. just run away with it.

Actually, we should do the Daly/Dampier trade to get #24. Imagine the possibility of Mullens falling or even take Taj Gibson there.

Brandon Jennings
Taj Gibson. I think that'd be a great draft for us. Look, we're not CLE, BOS, or Orlando even healthy.
We're a 50-55 win team that still needs to develop youth.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

BTW: Derozen=Carney

I don't want a rotational swing man. There's a reason he's dropping. He's the next Rodney Carney. And Jennings is the Rondo of this draft

Let's reverse our 2006 decision and pick this yr's Rondo(AKA:Jennings)