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Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:36 pm
by Dedicated_76ers_fan
People are going to be surprised when Ivey and Brezec get cut.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:37 pm
by bebopdeluxe
Relative to the group they have, Singletary probably is the best fit - in terms of his talent level, the demands of the Princeton offense and roster depth.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:40 pm
by bebopdeluxe
If Ivey and Brezec don't get cut, will you tell everybody on the forum what a f'n idiot you were for posting this?

I don't know how much more of your posts I can take.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:50 pm
by ankle420breaker
bebopdeluxe wrote:If Ivey and Brezec don't get cut, will you tell everybody on the forum what a f'n idiot you were for posting this?

I don't know how much more of your posts I can take.


Bebop, this post made me completely forget about the fact that I just got hammered with a huge bill for what I though was a small electrical problem. Needed a good laugh.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:57 pm
by tmoore
Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:People are going to be surprised when Ivey and Brezec get cut.


It's not going to happen, even if Singletary is a better fit. Guaranteed money in this market is guaranteed for a reason.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:58 pm
by tmoore
Eddie Jordan on bringing Holiday along slowly: "He’s got to earn his way. As much as I like him, Royal is very, very good right now. Willie is good, Andre is good, Lou is good, Sean Singletary is really good. So there’s a pecking order he’s got to get through."

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:59 pm
by tmoore
Jordan on Willie Green: "First of all, his teammates look at him as a leader. That’s very big in my book. He leads by example and verbally. He’s going to be there. He’s one of the top three guards (we have)."

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:06 pm
by PhilasFinest
hopefully Willie Green can play the deshawn stevenson role in the princeton...
i think in the 1st 2 years of the princeton, his numbers improved.

Also im pulling for Singletary. say wat you want about his size, but he can get his shot off, has 3 point range and can get hot. with the lack of PG depth on this team (and i dont consider ivey a PG)
i wouldnt mind seeing him sitting on the bench.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:07 pm
by Dedicated_76ers_fan
If Ivey improved from last year, that'll amaze me more then anything. Royal Ivey in ANY role other then last year's role(Spot-up shooter, occasional defender) will be very very funny.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:16 pm
by ankle420breaker
tmoore wrote:Eddie Jordan on bringing Holiday along slowly: "He’s got to earn his way. As much as I like him, Royal is very, very good right now. Willie is good, Andre is good, Lou is good, Sean Singletary is really good. So there’s a pecking order he’s got to get through."


Exactly what I was afraid of... Ivey is not very, very good. That said, I do understand the coach wanting the rookie to 'earn his way.' I just don't want to see Ivey getting the nod over Holiday during the regular season.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:22 pm
by Dedicated_76ers_fan
Royal Ivey: Like Willie Green, you can say "He doesn't turnover the ball" like Willie Green can "create his own shot".

But like creating his own shot, that's only half the battle won. You have to make the shot, just as Ivey would need to be a playmaker.

Ivey has NO handles whatsoever, other then the basics. He can't create a shot for himself, let alone others.

Royal Ivey is like Josh McCown of the NBA lol.

The same with Brezec. He can hit the 15 footer, but that's about it. Sam, Brand, M-16, Jason Smith can all do that. And bring shotblocking ability to the table.

Would either one of Ivey or Brezec get an offer anywhere else? The fact that they're here answers that.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:47 pm
by tmoore
Brezec is limited. He's the emergency big man.

Ivey could get spot minutes, but probably won't be in the regular rotation.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:48 pm
by tmoore
Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:Would either one of Ivey or Brezec get an offer anywhere else? The fact that they're here answers that.


Perhaps not. But because they got guaranteed money here, they're not going anywhere. Doesn't mean they'll play a lot, but they'll be on the roster.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:50 pm
by tmoore
Dalembert on being the center in the Princeton offense: "I was just making a joke about it yesterday -- the ball comes to me more times in a whole practice than in the eight years I’ve been here."

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:21 pm
by Dedicated_76ers_fan
Lets assume that Bowman, Swift, Jones(and they probably are) camp bodies that won't be added. That leaves what, Christmas and Singletary?

Stefanski talked about wanting to find a back-up 2/3(Carney's a 3)

And let's face it, Holiday already brings what Ivey does to the table. We're lacking that scoring guard off the bench. Singletary can play that role.

Eddie likes both of those guys(Singletary/Christmas)

As we note, there's only really 1 roster spot open right now. So let's face this:

Someone's cutting cut.

If it's not Ivey, it's Brezec.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:24 pm
by tmoore
Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:Lets assume that Bowman, Swift, Jones(and they probably are) camp bodies that won't be added. That leaves what, Christmas and Singletary?

Stefanski talked about wanting to find a back-up 2/3(Carney's a 3)

And let's face it, Holiday already brings what Ivey does to the table. We're lacking that scoring guard off the bench. Singletary can play that role.

Eddie likes both of those guys(Singletary/Christmas)

As we note, there's only really 1 roster spot open right now. So let's face this:

Someone's cutting cut.

If it's not Ivey, it's Brezec.


You can try to keep convincing yourself if you want, but it's not going to happen. And Carney is the backup shooting guard, with Kapono as the backup 3. I think if all things were equal, Singletary could make the team because he can handle the ball. But with guaranteed contracts for Ivey and Brezec, there isn't equality.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:27 pm
by still in payne
Let's appreciate what we have. Billy King would have signed Ivey to a 6 year 22 million dollar contract, then bashed him in the press, thus ruining his market value (if any). It's refreshing to see a coach being positive about his players, especially this early in his first camp with the team. If Jordan can get Ivey and Green to play hard and buy into the system - terrific. It's not like we have many other options in the backcourt.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Thu Oct 1, 2009 12:11 am
by ankle420breaker
http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landing_ ... feedID=704

kind of interesting...

“I have 10 guys right now that I have been using on two teams for most parts of the offense and defense [drills],” Jordan said. “There’s a 10[-man rotation] already in my mind.”

Those ten guys right now appear to be Lou, Iguodala, Thad, Brand, Sam, Green, Carney, Kapono, Smith, and Speights. Holiday will have to break through at some point... it will probably be at Green and Carney's expense.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Thu Oct 1, 2009 12:31 am
by sixerswillrule
No Holiday to start out? Really? I was expecting to see some Green or Ivey at PG, but I figured Jrue would be playing at least 10 mpg.

Re: Tom Moore 3.0

Posted: Thu Oct 1, 2009 1:17 am
by tmoore
sixerswillrule wrote:No Holiday to start out? Really? I was expecting to see some Green or Ivey at PG, but I figured Jrue would be playing at least 10 mpg.


Still possible it'll happen. Just depends on how well he plays.