FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Knockout Phase

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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Knockout Phase 

Post#2541 » by Stannis » Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:16 am

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Stannis wrote:Morocco has to stick to what they've been doing

Don't chase the game

France will probably try to outsmart them.

I remember the last World Cup, they let Croatia take all the risk and they were just able to capitalize on their mistakes

I don't see them gifting Morocco with those boneheaded fouls like they've been doing so far

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you cant expect to give France 80% possession and come out with a win
I think it's possible tbh, and the likely outcome for Morocco win.

I actually think if France wins, it'll be Morocco who holds most of the possession. France has been doing well when the other team is the one holding the ball

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Post#2542 » by ejftw » Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:24 am

Think if France holds 80% of possession, they'll manage to get one in the back of the net, just trust them more than Spain and Portugal.
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Post#2543 » by Stannis » Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:35 am

ejftw wrote:Think if France holds 80% of possession, they'll manage to get one in the back of the net, just trust them more than Spain and Portugal.
I honestly said the same thing about Portugal. I thought them rocking 5 goals against the Swiss without Ronaldo was a new Portugal. And it meant them at least getting 1 against Morocco with majority of the possession

I was dead wrong



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Post#2544 » by ejftw » Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:42 am

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ejftw wrote:Think if France holds 80% of possession, they'll manage to get one in the back of the net, just trust them more than Spain and Portugal.
I honestly said the same thing about Portugal. I thought them rocking 5 goals against the Swiss without Ronaldo was a new Portugal. And it meant them at least getting 1 against Morocco with majority of the possession

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I just didn't have the level of confidence in Portugal as you,.and many others, apparently did. Felt like they'd come in with overconfidence after thrashing the Swiss and expect to replicate that with relative ease.

If I had to put a % on it, I'm about 55-60% confident with France winning it. Definitely not enough to drop dough on it.
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Post#2545 » by clyde21 » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:00 am

so whats the vert on this one

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Post#2546 » by Stannis » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:07 am

Anybody have a list of the key players that will miss the upcoming games because of yellow cards and injures?

I feel that there is quite a bit....
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Post#2547 » by Stannis » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:20 am

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From what it looks like, yeah it’s England fans. I won’t post it in here, but one of the fans told Saka that he hopes he gets deported to Nigeria (his parents country)


That’s a partly why I always root against England in World Cup , this fans don’t deserve to win s#it

And why teams like Croatia and Morocco is so easy to root for , you can’t deport Moroccan from Morocco


every team/country have idiot fans

also people are gonna say stupid ****. you have thousands of IG comments, a few are bound to be stupid ass people. just the nature of the beast.

It's really not just dumb social media comments, imo.

Guys like Ozil, Benzema, and Lukaku all said it's racism on a high level too.

That's why I like when immigrant players or players with different heritage play for their blood. The country these players reside in feel like the player has an obligation to play for their national team. And mark them as a traitor if they go back and play for their country of origin. Yet, these player are on a shorter leash and get unfair criticisms as soon as things look bad.

I've even seen it with the Albanian/Kosovo players for Switzerland. A while ago, they were losing games, and they Swiss media were writing and making cartoon hit pieces how they don't sing the Swiss national anthem and play with no pride.

The African-French players are lucky that the France NT actually won trophies, because they'd be on the receiving end of lot of this racism as well.
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Post#2548 » by clyde21 » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:37 am

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clyde21 wrote:
ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
That’s a partly why I always root against England in World Cup , this fans don’t deserve to win s#it

And why teams like Croatia and Morocco is so easy to root for , you can’t deport Moroccan from Morocco


every team/country have idiot fans

also people are gonna say stupid ****. you have thousands of IG comments, a few are bound to be stupid ass people. just the nature of the beast.

It's really not just dumb social media comments, imo.

Guys like Ozil, Benzema, and Lukaku all said it's racism on a high level too.

That's why I like when immigrant players or players with different heritage play for their blood. The country these players reside in feel like the player has an obligation to play for their national team. And mark them as a traitor if they go back and play for their country of origin. Yet, these player are on a shorter leash and get unfair criticisms as soon as things look bad.

I've even seen it with the Albanian/Kosovo players for Switzerland. A while ago, they were losing games, and they Swiss media were writing and making cartoon hit pieces how they don't sing the Swiss national anthem and play with no pride.

The African-French players are lucky that the France NT actually won trophies, because they'd be on the receiving end of lot of this racism as well.


i agree in general but Ozil/Benzema stuff is not just IG racism but outright xenophobia, these guys get told to go back 'where they came from' when they don't perform well and are were never truly seen as German/French at the end of the day. same stuff used to happen to Zidane.

which is why i made a joke earlier in the thread when French beat Australia that it was Africa that actually beat Australia. i know how these guys are are treated and seen and it's a terrible look for those countries.
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Post#2549 » by Evenacus » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:37 am

Stannis wrote:Morocco has to stick to what they've been doing

Don't chase the game

France will probably try to outsmart them.

I remember the last World Cup, they let Croatia take all the risk and they were just able to capitalize on their mistakes

I don't see them gifting Morocco with those boneheaded fouls like they've been doing so far

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That final was marred by our own goal from an non exisiting foul and the fluke penalty from the corner kick. The ball struck Perisic and that f***** gave the penalty to France. Afterwards it was just counters from them. There was also the fact that our goalkeeper ,dumb f**k that he is, played injured and was unable to perform to normal standards. There would be nothing better then to defeat Argentina now and then the French to put the icing on top. :nod:
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Post#2550 » by fbalmeida » Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:22 am

Few things are quite as irritating and emotionally painful as watching smug and unfunny TV commercials featuring your country's football players, after your national squad has been eliminated from a tournament.

That time of year again.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Knockout Phase 

Post#2551 » by slicedbread2 » Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:49 am

clyde21 wrote:
Stannis wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
every team/country have idiot fans

also people are gonna say stupid ****. you have thousands of IG comments, a few are bound to be stupid ass people. just the nature of the beast.

It's really not just dumb social media comments, imo.

Guys like Ozil, Benzema, and Lukaku all said it's racism on a high level too.

That's why I like when immigrant players or players with different heritage play for their blood. The country these players reside in feel like the player has an obligation to play for their national team. And mark them as a traitor if they go back and play for their country of origin. Yet, these player are on a shorter leash and get unfair criticisms as soon as things look bad.

I've even seen it with the Albanian/Kosovo players for Switzerland. A while ago, they were losing games, and they Swiss media were writing and making cartoon hit pieces how they don't sing the Swiss national anthem and play with no pride.

The African-French players are lucky that the France NT actually won trophies, because they'd be on the receiving end of lot of this racism as well.


i agree in general but Ozil/Benzema stuff is not just IG racism but outright xenophobia, these guys get told to go back 'where they came from' when they don't perform well and are were never truly seen as German/French at the end of the day. same stuff used to happen to Zidane.

which is why i made a joke earlier in the thread when French beat Australia that it was Africa that actually beat Australia. i know how these guys are are treated and seen and it's a terrible look for those countries.


Well knowing that the French Gendarmerie is gonna be working full overtime knowing that the streets of France are gonna be a mess whatever the outcome Morocco/France match up ends in. It's absolutely nuts that Morocco made it as far as they have. They somehow managed to break the Iberian peninsula in the span of a week and I'll laugh if they beat France and possibly Argentina. One teacher apparently bet 90k on Morocco making the quarters at 11/1 odds and ended up winning $1,000,000 despite having not known squat about the sport.

Either way with no horse in this race it's gonna be fun to watch. I swear England and penalty kicks is a tragedy that only Shakespeare in his darkest hour could come up with and turn it into a play. Yet that's been their theme the last few years.
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Post#2552 » by fbalmeida » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:54 am

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Post#2553 » by HIF » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:59 am

To paraphrase the SAS with regards England's match:

Who Scores, Wins.

England were the better team, they played the better football, they were unfortunate with the choice of referee and his decisions but football is about who scores the most goals. France did that and therefore they are, rightly, through.

Kane went from potential legend to complete bottler within a few seconds but I don't blame him for the loss. If anything he had a very good game, he was the right guy to take the kick - our penalty specialist, - he takes them well and I agree with his power into the roof style. If it had been saved by Lloris then I think Kane could have left with his head held high but a penalty taker should never miss the target. It's 12 yards from the spot to the goal, there is no defender to put the player off and he knows that any shot on target has a good chance of scoring, whilst a shot on target will never score. He's an 80+% scorer of penalties for England and he blazed it over the top with no foot slip or scuffed spot. He let the team down, but as I said he's not to blame for the loss.

Southgate left changes till late, I understand that, even if I don't agree. We were killing the French defence with players who could dribble through or run past. Saka was dominating and Rashford, who has looked great this world cup, would have done the same. i'd have brought Rashford on for foden early in the second half - proactive sub. When we were losing to then bring on Sterling and Mount and Grealish who have been miserable this competition and this season in the prem was an abomination of a choice, especially when he took Saka off. and of course how can I finish without mentioning the player who was never used, the English player with the best G/A in the Prem over the last 18 months, the in-form player who not only dribbles past players and plays great through balls but also scores. How Maddison wasn't thrown on in desperation by a manager who only plays his favourites, still amazes me. It probably wouldn't have changed anything but Mount, Grealish and Sterling were certainly NOT the answer.

So England Bottle a great chance led by the Spursiest of players (that's for you Baph ;-)) and another golden opportunity goes to waste.
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Post#2554 » by HIF » Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:01 am

It would be great for an African team to win the world cup. Great for Africa, Great for Asia, Great for Qatar, Great for FIFA and great for football. I hope that it is this year.
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Post#2555 » by fbalmeida » Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:08 am

I will take immense pleasure from watching Morocco dumbfound France and whoever it is in the finals, as they did to Portugal, Spain, and Belgium.
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Post#2556 » by Evenacus » Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:24 am

fbalmeida wrote:I will take immense pleasure from watching Morocco dumbfound France and whoever it is in the finals, as they did to Portugal, Spain, and Belgium.


All the best to Morocco until the finals where we will be waiting for them ( I hope) for the rematch. In the groups it was a 0:0 draw but for the finals we will see.
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Post#2557 » by HIF » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:05 pm

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fbalmeida wrote:I will take immense pleasure from watching Morocco dumbfound France and whoever it is in the finals, as they did to Portugal, Spain, and Belgium.


All the best to Morocco until the finals where we will be waiting for them ( I hope) for the rematch. In the groups it was a 0:0 draw but for the finals we will see.


You can be sure that it won't be a draw.
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Post#2558 » by ChumboChappati » Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:17 pm

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Post#2559 » by SgtPepper » Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:00 pm

HIF wrote:To paraphrase the SAS with regards England's match:

Who Scores, Wins.

England were the better team, they played the better football, they were unfortunate with the choice of referee and his decisions but football is about who scores the most goals. France did that and therefore they are, rightly, through.

Kane went from potential legend to complete bottler within a few seconds but I don't blame him for the loss. If anything he had a very good game, he was the right guy to take the kick - our penalty specialist, - he takes them well and I agree with his power into the roof style. If it had been saved by Lloris then I think Kane could have left with his head held high but a penalty taker should never miss the target. It's 12 yards from the spot to the goal, there is no defender to put the player off and he knows that any shot on target has a good chance of scoring, whilst a shot on target will never score. He's an 80+% scorer of penalties for England and he blazed it over the top with no foot slip or scuffed spot. He let the team down, but as I said he's not to blame for the loss.

Southgate left changes till late, I understand that, even if I don't agree. We were killing the French defence with players who could dribble through or run past. Saka was dominating and Rashford, who has looked great this world cup, would have done the same. i'd have brought Rashford on for foden early in the second half - proactive sub. When we were losing to then bring on Sterling and Mount and Grealish who have been miserable this competition and this season in the prem was an abomination of a choice, especially when he took Saka off. and of course how can I finish without mentioning the player who was never used, the English player with the best G/A in the Prem over the last 18 months, the in-form player who not only dribbles past players and plays great through balls but also scores. How Maddison wasn't thrown on in desperation by a manager who only plays his favourites, still amazes me. It probably wouldn't have changed anything but Mount, Grealish and Sterling were certainly NOT the answer.

So England Bottle a great chance led by the Spursiest of players (that's for you Baph ;-)) and another golden opportunity goes to waste.

Kane looks physically past it compared to 2018. He's probably still England's best striker but I was consistently undewhelmed by his workrate in this tourney. Look at Giroud, Griezmann, or Benzema who all simply participate and generate plays a lot more than a much younger Kane now. That Rooney of all gave him lavish praise recently was like a kiss of death. I think the penalty miss will be forgotten but Kane is now on trajectory to miss out on the titles he wanted to leave Spurs for in 2018 and there have been many games already where I've wondered if a false 9 Foden/Grealish/Mount or real 9 Rashford would do better.
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Post#2560 » by ChumboChappati » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:18 pm

HIF wrote:To paraphrase the SAS with regards England's match:

Who Scores, Wins.

England were the better team, they played the better football, they were unfortunate with the choice of referee and his decisions but football is about who scores the most goals. France did that and therefore they are, rightly, through.

Kane went from potential legend to complete bottler within a few seconds but I don't blame him for the loss. If anything he had a very good game, he was the right guy to take the kick - our penalty specialist, - he takes them well and I agree with his power into the roof style. If it had been saved by Lloris then I think Kane could have left with his head held high but a penalty taker should never miss the target. It's 12 yards from the spot to the goal, there is no defender to put the player off and he knows that any shot on target has a good chance of scoring, whilst a shot on target will never score. He's an 80+% scorer of penalties for England and he blazed it over the top with no foot slip or scuffed spot. He let the team down, but as I said he's not to blame for the loss.

Southgate left changes till late, I understand that, even if I don't agree. We were killing the French defence with players who could dribble through or run past. Saka was dominating and Rashford, who has looked great this world cup, would have done the same. i'd have brought Rashford on for foden early in the second half - proactive sub. When we were losing to then bring on Sterling and Mount and Grealish who have been miserable this competition and this season in the prem was an abomination of a choice, especially when he took Saka off. and of course how can I finish without mentioning the player who was never used, the English player with the best G/A in the Prem over the last 18 months, the in-form player who not only dribbles past players and plays great through balls but also scores. How Maddison wasn't thrown on in desperation by a manager who only plays his favourites, still amazes me. It probably wouldn't have changed anything but Mount, Grealish and Sterling were certainly NOT the answer.

So England Bottle a great chance led by the Spursiest of players (that's for you Baph ;-)) and another golden opportunity goes to waste.

England got 2 penalties from that referee and still complaining? England played better but France defeated them fair and square.

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