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Post#221 » by cgf » Sun May 5, 2024 2:26 pm

We're playing like a team that wants to get relegated. If we can't turn this around we're going to be in that relegation playoff, and with the way we're playing today either Dusseldorf or Hamburg would walk us.
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Post#222 » by Foye » Sun May 5, 2024 8:25 pm

1:1 at Heidenheim.
Was to be expected that we will not get the win there with the banned players.
1 point behind Union, 5 ahead of Cologne going into next weeks home game against Dortmund.
Pretty sure Dortmund still want to burry us for stealing their championship last year.
Not much hope that we will manage to get out of the relegation spot.
To be honest - the current roster outside of 5 or 6 players is dreadful.
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Post#223 » by cgf » Sat May 11, 2024 6:02 pm

We don't deserve to stay up above Mainz. We must remain in front of Köln, but Mainz have just been playing way better since starting to get healthy. Need the kind of 90minute effort we haven't seen in over a month to even give ourselves a chance to stay up next week.

It's like we hit 30pts and decided that was enough to stay up.
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Post#224 » by Foye » Sat May 11, 2024 10:40 pm

Massive win today against Dortmund.
Back in 15th spot. 1 point in Wolfsburg will be enough to stay in the league directly.

Our offense is looking quite nice when everyone is healthy.
Burkardt, Lee, Gruda, Amiri. Really fun to watch.

The bench is still absolutely dreadful, though.

cgf wrote:We don't deserve to stay up above Mainz. We must remain in front of Köln, but Mainz have just been playing way better since starting to get healthy. Need the kind of 90minute effort we haven't seen in over a month to even give ourselves a chance to stay up next week.

It's like we hit 30pts and decided that was enough to stay up.


To be honest - we don’t deserve to stay up either because we didn’t start our season until match day 23 or something like that.

Hoping we will get it done next week.

You guys can then stay in through the relegation games. :wink:
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Post#225 » by cgf » Sun May 12, 2024 1:42 am

Foye wrote:Massive win today against Dortmund.
Back in 15th spot. 1 point in Wolfsburg will be enough to stay in the league directly.

Our offense is looking quite nice when everyone is healthy.
Burkardt, Lee, Gruda, Amiri. Really fun to watch.

The bench is still absolutely dreadful, though.

cgf wrote:We don't deserve to stay up above Mainz. We must remain in front of Köln, but Mainz have just been playing way better since starting to get healthy. Need the kind of 90minute effort we haven't seen in over a month to even give ourselves a chance to stay up next week.

It's like we hit 30pts and decided that was enough to stay up.


To be honest - we don’t deserve to stay up either because we didn’t start our season until match day 23 or something like that.

Hoping we will get it done next week.

You guys can then stay in through the relegation games. :wink:


You at least have the injury excuse. We haven’t been nearly as badly hammered by injuries…and with our 1st league survival on the line we’ve played like crap, while you have been kicking & clawing to get out of the relegation zone.
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Re: 2023-24 German Bundesliga Discussion Thread 

Post#226 » by Foye » Sun May 12, 2024 9:29 am

cgf wrote:
Foye wrote:Massive win today against Dortmund.
Back in 15th spot. 1 point in Wolfsburg will be enough to stay in the league directly.

Our offense is looking quite nice when everyone is healthy.
Burkardt, Lee, Gruda, Amiri. Really fun to watch.

The bench is still absolutely dreadful, though.

cgf wrote:We don't deserve to stay up above Mainz. We must remain in front of Köln, but Mainz have just been playing way better since starting to get healthy. Need the kind of 90minute effort we haven't seen in over a month to even give ourselves a chance to stay up next week.

It's like we hit 30pts and decided that was enough to stay up.


To be honest - we don’t deserve to stay up either because we didn’t start our season until match day 23 or something like that.

Hoping we will get it done next week.

You guys can then stay in through the relegation games. :wink:


You at least have the injury excuse. We haven’t been nearly as badly hammered by injuries…and with our 1st league survival on the line we’ve played like crap, while you have been kicking & clawing to get out of the relegation zone.


I think you guys bought the wrong players in summer.
Bonucci, Gosens, Volland, Tousart. Vogt in winter.
Mostly „names“ rather than great fits for the team.
Now your CL money is gone and the roster a bad fit.
Should‘ve spent most of the CL money on young players with upside for development rather than overspending for older players.

We have done the same mistake on a smaller scale with guys like Ajorque, Richter, Mwene.
That‘s why our bench is absolutely dreadful.

I can see Stuttgart doing the same mistake in summer if they have to replace Führich, Guirassy and/or Undav.
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Re: 2023-24 German Bundesliga Discussion Thread 

Post#227 » by cgf » Sun May 12, 2024 2:43 pm

Foye wrote:
cgf wrote:
Foye wrote:Massive win today against Dortmund.
Back in 15th spot. 1 point in Wolfsburg will be enough to stay in the league directly.

Our offense is looking quite nice when everyone is healthy.
Burkardt, Lee, Gruda, Amiri. Really fun to watch.

The bench is still absolutely dreadful, though.



To be honest - we don’t deserve to stay up either because we didn’t start our season until match day 23 or something like that.

Hoping we will get it done next week.

You guys can then stay in through the relegation games. :wink:


You at least have the injury excuse. We haven’t been nearly as badly hammered by injuries…and with our 1st league survival on the line we’ve played like crap, while you have been kicking & clawing to get out of the relegation zone.


I think you guys bought the wrong players in summer.
Bonucci, Gosens, Volland, Tousart. Vogt in winter.
Mostly „names“ rather than great fits for the team.
Now your CL money is gone and the roster a bad fit.
Should‘ve spent most of the CL money on young players with upside for development rather than overspending for older players.

We have done the same mistake on a smaller scale with guys like Ajorque, Richter, Mwene.
That‘s why our bench is absolutely dreadful.

I can see Stuttgart doing the same mistake in summer if they have to replace Führich, Guirassy and/or Undav.


Eh bonucci was a mistake & Tousart just sucks, but Gosens, Volland & Vogt fit our ethos. Gosens & Volland both being physical attackers and Vogt looking like he’d been here since promotion.

We’re not a young talent club. Our success has come from being mistake less in defense and out working teams. With the young players we could afford, there would be way too many mistakes to stay up in BuLi 1.

Our biggest mistake was not completing the Boniface signing before Leverkusen got involved & ending up without a goalscorer. If we had someone that could get us goals we wouldn’t have gone on that massive losing streak and created such a bad vibe around the season.
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Re: 2023-24 German Bundesliga Discussion Thread 

Post#228 » by Foye » Sun May 12, 2024 5:35 pm

cgf wrote:
Foye wrote:
cgf wrote:
You at least have the injury excuse. We haven’t been nearly as badly hammered by injuries…and with our 1st league survival on the line we’ve played like crap, while you have been kicking & clawing to get out of the relegation zone.


I think you guys bought the wrong players in summer.
Bonucci, Gosens, Volland, Tousart. Vogt in winter.
Mostly „names“ rather than great fits for the team.
Now your CL money is gone and the roster a bad fit.
Should‘ve spent most of the CL money on young players with upside for development rather than overspending for older players.

We have done the same mistake on a smaller scale with guys like Ajorque, Richter, Mwene.
That‘s why our bench is absolutely dreadful.

I can see Stuttgart doing the same mistake in summer if they have to replace Führich, Guirassy and/or Undav.


Eh bonucci was a mistake & Tousart just sucks, but Gosens, Volland & Vogt fit our ethos. Gosens & Volland both being physical attackers and Vogt looking like he’d been here since promotion.

We’re not a young talent club. Our success has come from being mistake less in defense and out working teams. With the young players we could afford, there would be way too many mistakes to stay up in BuLi 1.

Our biggest mistake was not completing the Boniface signing before Leverkusen got involved & ending up without a goalscorer. If we had someone that could get us goals we wouldn’t have gone on that massive losing streak and created such a bad vibe around the season.


You need to sign young players to develop the club further.
Players starting age 28 are a bad investment.
They are much more likely to lose market value than 20-24 y/o‘s and on top of that command a higher salary.
Never understood why Kaufmann wasn’t given a fair chance. He was very good for Karlsruhe last year. Can’t be worse than Volland has been most of the year.
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Post#229 » by cgf » Sun May 12, 2024 7:11 pm

Foye wrote:
cgf wrote:
Foye wrote:
I think you guys bought the wrong players in summer.
Bonucci, Gosens, Volland, Tousart. Vogt in winter.
Mostly „names“ rather than great fits for the team.
Now your CL money is gone and the roster a bad fit.
Should‘ve spent most of the CL money on young players with upside for development rather than overspending for older players.

We have done the same mistake on a smaller scale with guys like Ajorque, Richter, Mwene.
That‘s why our bench is absolutely dreadful.

I can see Stuttgart doing the same mistake in summer if they have to replace Führich, Guirassy and/or Undav.


Eh bonucci was a mistake & Tousart just sucks, but Gosens, Volland & Vogt fit our ethos. Gosens & Volland both being physical attackers and Vogt looking like he’d been here since promotion.

We’re not a young talent club. Our success has come from being mistake less in defense and out working teams. With the young players we could afford, there would be way too many mistakes to stay up in BuLi 1.

Our biggest mistake was not completing the Boniface signing before Leverkusen got involved & ending up without a goalscorer. If we had someone that could get us goals we wouldn’t have gone on that massive losing streak and created such a bad vibe around the season.


You need to sign young players to develop the club further.
Players starting age 28 are a bad investment.
They are much more likely to lose market value than 20-24 y/o‘s and on top of that command a higher salary.
Never understood why Kaufmann wasn’t given a fair chance. He was very good for Karlsruhe last year. Can’t be worse than Volland has been most of the year.

We have kids on loan, but they’re not ready to help the senior team. Hollerbach is the young player who showed he could help us, Kaufmann has been really poor and much worse at generating chance than volland.
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Post#230 » by Foye » Sun May 12, 2024 10:00 pm

Neverlosen is so dominant they decided to celebrate their 50 games unbeaten run with a 5:0 victory lol
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Post#231 » by Foye » Yesterday 6:04 pm

Bayern have failed to sign the following coaches for next season already:
- Pep Guardiola (Manchester City)
- Xabi Alonso (Bayer Neverlosen)
- Julian Nagelsmann (Germany)
- Zinedine Zidane (unemployed)
- Roger Schmidt (Benfica)
- Oliver Glasner (Crystal Palace)
- Ralf Rangnick (Austria)
- Hansi Flick (unemployed)
- Erik Ten Hag (Manchester United)
- Julen Lopetegui (unemployed)
- Roberto de Zerbi (Brighton)
- Thomas Tuchel (current coach)

Nobody wants that job.
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Post#232 » by MetalFingaz » Yesterday 9:30 pm

Foye wrote:Bayern have failed to sign the following coaches for next season already:
- Pep Guardiola (Manchester City)
- Xabi Alonso (Bayer Neverlosen)
- Julian Nagelsmann (Germany)
- Zinedine Zidane (unemployed)
- Roger Schmidt (Benfica)
- Oliver Glasner (Crystal Palace)
- Ralf Rangnick (Austria)
- Hansi Flick (unemployed)
- Erik Ten Hag (Manchester United)
- Julen Lopetegui (unemployed)
- Roberto de Zerbi (Brighton)
- Thomas Tuchel (current coach)

Nobody wants that job.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post#233 » by MetalFingaz » Today 1:55 pm

What a touch and finish from Gruda.
It's time for 5 refs.
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Post#234 » by MetalFingaz » Today 3:22 pm

Union :o :o
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Post#235 » by cgf » Today 4:13 pm

I couldn't even watch that 2nd penalty. Dusseldorf would've kicked our ass next week. Now they can dump Bochum down to BuLi2, where they belong.
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Post#236 » by cgf » Today 4:14 pm

MetalFingaz wrote:What a touch and finish from Gruda.


Kid is a stud. Mainz have a lot of young attacking talent right now.
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Post#237 » by Foye » Today 4:48 pm



We‘re back next year!
Amazing support in Wolfsburg today.
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Post#238 » by Wisky4life » Today 4:52 pm

Is the Bayern job too boring or is that the coach gets no control in anything. I know the expectations is title or get canned, just like PSG usually deals with.

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Post#239 » by Foye » Today 5:44 pm

cgf wrote:
MetalFingaz wrote:What a touch and finish from Gruda.


Kid is a stud. Mainz have a lot of young attacking talent right now.


Praying that we are able to keep all of:
- Gruda
- Burkardt
- Amiri
- van den Berg
- Hanche-Olsen
- Caci
- Nebel
- Weiper
for next year.

And I hope management got the message that the bench is way too weak.
The likes of Ajorque, Richter, Leitsch, da Costa or Krauß made like no positive contribution at all this season.

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