The Official 2024 Offseason Thread

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Insane that there’s still people who want to run this core 3 back.

They must not be very familiar with ‘ol Al

Spoiler:

[Stix]

We don't have a pick next year so we don't really have a choice but to run it back. No one wants Beal, and you're not trading Book/KD because you need to win.

[garrick]

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Flex was on record today saying it was bull but who knows at this point.

Unless Flex is BFFs with Booker I don't think we can really trust his input on these rumors.

Personally I would rather trade one of Beal or KD over Booker but those 2 probably have pretty low trade interest right now.

[Saberestar]

Gambo

There is a 0% chance the Suns trade Devin Booker this offseason. ZERO. Now it is put to bed.

[Stix]

Ok here is my out-of-the-box roster retweek for off season.

1. Get rid of Beal - This takes some creativity as his contract and NTC is going to make it extremely difficult to move. But this is the NBA, and we have seen immovable contracts traded before so here we go...

Beal to Charlotte for Miles Bridges (S&T - 5yrs 173mil)

The smoke is already there from the trade deadline rumors, where allegedly we almost acquired Bridges. Ultimately, the trade was held back because Bridges wanted to keep his Bird rights and get paid. In this scenario, Bridges gets his moolah and we swap Beal. Charlotte is a good situation for Beal where he can go be the "guy" again for a young team, and lifts the immense pressure on his shoulders playing for a "contender". He waives his NTC because he does not want to face the PHX fans/media again and finds himself in a nice place where he can fulfill the remainder of his contract. He can ring chase thereafter if he can still go. Charlotte has the space to absorb his contract, and Bridges gets to move across the country very far away from his Ex.

Ishbia gets his guy in Miles Bridges, and we get a big wing defender who can score, rebound, and block some shots. He is not an elite defender, but he is a big athlete and can provide some toughness that we sorely lack on this team. We also get a bit younger and window gets a little bit wider.

2. Hire Darvin Ham - We need a coach that the players will respect. We also need a guy who is hungry for a championship and wants to win at all costs. Here in comes Darvin. Also has Michigan ties and has experience coaching big personalities (Bron). He knows his Xs and Os and is the type of coach we need to light a fire under our guys when things get tough.

3. Draft a PG (Tyler Kolek) - We are looking for a diamond in the rough here. Need to find our Rondo... Kolek looks to be a good prospect if only for his ball-handling and playmaking skills. Think of a young TJ McConnell or a Payton Pritchard. We don't need a scorer, just someone who can run the offense and take that responsibility away from Book.

4. Re-sign Royce - we hold his bird right, and we aren't getting anyone better on a minimum. Might as well bring him back, he is a good rotation player.

5. Vet Min Guys - We need a back up C, PF, and PG. Gimme Drummond and Lowry. Drummond for rebounding, and Lowry just because he is experienced, good fit, and is cheap. And then for PF, maybe like a Taurean Prince or try to bring back Bol (doubt it).


Kolek/Lowry
Booker/Allen/Lee
Bridges/O'Neal/Little
Durant/Prince/Roddy
Nurkic/Drummond

Plugs the holes, keeps us competitive, and leaves a couple of open spots for a prospect or a couple more ring chasers/vets. Future is with Kolek/Booker/Bridges

[Saberestar]

The sense is the Suns will run it back with their star trio of Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Bradley Beal next season, per @ShamsCharania on @PatMcAfeeShow.

[Saberestar]

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Good accurate article on the Suns from The Ringer

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/4/29/24144510/phoenix-suns-nba-trade-rumors-kevin-durant-devin-booker

[Fo-Real]

I think the only trade possible for Beal is to the Lakers involving Books buddy D-Lo and filler like Rui and others coming back. No chance we trade Book unless he demands it, KD is most likely going to be here and I would be stunned if Vogel is kept.

[Fo-Real]

Any truth to the rumor that JaVale McGee was sitting with Ishbia during the last playoff game?

[darealjuice]

The path forward for the Suns is definitely murky. It's a very important offseason to steady the ship, but it also seems like there's only so much that can be done.

Re-signing Royce is a big priority this offseason, the fact is that we're not going to find anyone better on a minimum contract.

Hitting on our draft pick is vital. We need a shot of young talent, and we're not going to find much upside in the minimum contract market. Tough to count on an immediate contributor at 22 in a bad draft, but we need it.

The real mess is balancing the roster. It's going to be tough to do without trading Beal, which is obviously easier said than done between the no trade clause and bloated contract. We'd also be selling low, again. I still think he's a talented player, but the fit has been a disaster and I have no interest in seeing us start a 3 SG starting lineup again next year. We also can't be rash and shoot ourselves in the foot for the sake of getting rid of Beal though.

As we saw this year, contributors on minimum contracts will be hard to come by. Maybe we can land Lowry, Paul, or Payne at point guard, but we also just told 2 of those 3 to leave, and we could easily be priced out of Lowry. Front court contributors will be thin too.

It will be interesting to see how the offseason plays out. As of now we'll be spending almost $120M between Booker, Beal, and Allen, all of which play the same position. Not exactly a recipe for success.

[sashaturiaf]

Flex from Jersey says Booker to BK for Cam Thomas, DFS, one pick return, and Simmons expiring someone said.

Is this what people in Phoenix are really hearing?

One pick return is a joke given Booker's age and contract. Cam Thomas, DFS and 3 picks returned is a minimum.

[lilfishi22]

Gambo

There is a 0% chance the Suns trade Devin Booker this offseason. ZERO. Now it is put to bed.

Thank goodness. Can't believe it even needed to be put into print for people to get off this trade Book train

[lilfishi22]

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That speaks way more about the offense we ran more than KD imo. We saw this all year, our offense was incoherent most of the time, the only thing consistent about it was inconsistency, the disastrous 4th (and more often than not, 3rd) quarter issues weren't ever resolved and at the end, we couldn't even get a real playoff Book game in 3 of the 4 games.

[ClutchUp]

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Flex was on record today saying it was bull but who knows at this point.

I feel like I've heard countless stories of him saying stars want to play for the Knicks.

[Calvin Klein]

2. Hire Darvin Ham - We need a coach that the players will respect. We also need a guy who is hungry for a championship and wants to win at all costs. Here in comes Darvin. Also has Michigan ties and has experience coaching big personalities (Bron). He knows his Xs and Os and is the type of coach we need to light a fire under our guys when things get tough.

[BobbieL]

I think the only trade possible for Beal is to the Lakers involving Books buddy D-Lo and filler like Rui and others coming back. No chance we trade Book unless he demands it, KD is most likely going to be here and I would be stunned if Vogel is kept.

At least they put the blame on Ishbia for the Durant trade - overspent. Its why I was against the trade if it included Bridges, CamJo and 4 FRPs.

that was a terrible short sighted move

[JKiddy]

Booker to BK for Cam Johnson and Bridges and two picks!

Durant to LAL for 3 1sts DLO and Reaves!

Start the rebuild and retool before it is too late.

[Djedefre]

If we 'run it back' we're set for a decade of misery at the very least. We really need to trade these two (Beal is an immovable object, let's be real) while we still can get some value and assets to retool in the next few years and maybe rise again. If we shrug it off, we're completely effed next april. No GM in this league is going to give us anything of real value in return. Things are looking bad right now, but there is a clear path to salvation. It takes courage, sure, but we do not have time anymore. Next summer is going to be too little too late

[Ghost of Kleine]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10118951-bold-offseason-nba-trades-that-need-to-happen

Suns End Bradley Beal Experiment


Miami Heat Receive: SG Bradley Beal

Phoenix Suns Receive: PG Terry Rozier, F Duncan Robinson, G/F Josh Richardson, 2026 second-round pick (via Los Angeles Lakers)

The Bradley Beal trade didn't look good at the time for the Phoenix Suns given his contract and positional overlap with Devin Booker. Now, following a first-round sweep at the hands of the Minnesota Timberwolves, it looks even worse moving forward. Beal, Kevin Durant and Devin Booker will be the most expensive trio in basketball next season at roughly $150.7 million in combined salary.

Phoenix should try to shop the remaining three years and $161 million on Beal's contract, but it will be limited by the new second-apron trade restrictions. The Suns won't be able to take back more than Beal's $50.2 million 2024-25 salary in a trade, can't send any cash in trades and aren't allowed to aggregate contracts in a trade.

Despite that, the Miami Heat stand out as a potential trade partner, especially since the Heat finished the regular season ranked only 21st overall in offensive rating and could use Beal's scoring and playmaking. Beal would join a core of Jimmy Butler, Bam Adebayo, Tyler Herro, Jaime Jaquez Jr. and others without Miami giving up any future first-round picks.

For Phoenix, this would be a way of getting off Beal's contract while slightly trimming the payroll (roughly $2.8 million in savings) and adding three starters/rotation players around Durant and Booker. Rozier (19.8 points, 4.0 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 36.3 percent from three) could slide into Beal's starting backcourt spot while making less than half as much money, and Robinson (12.9 points, 39.5 percent shooting from three) would help keep the floor spread for the stars to operate.

This trade would require Beal's blessing since he possesses a no-trade clause, and Richardson would need to pick up his $3.0 million player option for next season.

This is a craptastic return in terms of overall value, BUT all things considered, I think I'd do it in order to get off of Beals' horrible contract and his incredibly crippling salary/ No trade clause!! Because aside from freeing ourselves from Beal, we'd be able to add a competent backup guard and even more high end 3PT shooting