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Re: Suns History

Posted: Thu Jul 5, 2018 6:21 pm
by Big NBA Fan
I know it was a tremendously unpopular trade, and like I said, I don't even like the guy.

I'm just saying that the things that went wrong in 2009 like the Porter debacle, STAT's season-ending injury, Diaw not being available anymore, etc. were NOT his fault.

It could have worked with some better luck on their side.

It was like everything that could have gone wrong, went wrong whether it was Tim Duncan's miracle 3 pointer in Game 1, losing Grant Hill in that same game (their best defender), MDA getting horribly outcoached, Mike quitting, Porter over Gentry, Amare missing 29 games, etc.

What have the Suns accomplished since STAT left? Nothing! Sad, but true.

Even the great Steve Nash missed the playoffs 3 out of his last 4 years in Phoenix before he became washed-up in LA and was part of the most disastrous super-team ever...the 2013 Lakers.

Re: Suns History

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:16 pm
by scooper1030
For any Suns history buffs out there, The Timeline Podcast (which I must shamefully admit I co-host) just released a documentary episode about the 2009-2010 season. We got an original interview with Espo who shows up throughout the episode, but we also filled it with soundbites of game highlights, player interviews, reactions from analysts like Bill Simmons and Jalen Rose, and more. It's the first time we decided to go for a narrative episode instead of a discussion about the current team...but we'll be back to discussing the current Suns next week.

If you're interested in listening you can find the episode here (https://thetimelinepodcast.com/2018/08/09/episode-10-special-an-oral-history-of-the-2009-2010-phoenix-suns-featuring-espo/) or by searching The Timeline: A Phoenix Suns Podcast on iTunes, Google Play or Stitcher.

Hope I'm not breaking any self-promotion rules here by doing this, if so mods just please let me know.

Thanks!

Re: Suns History

Posted: Thu Sep 6, 2018 8:51 pm
by bwgood77
This bolded part below is hilarious...came across it in a Boris Diaw retirement thread...

"When we acquired Boris in 2006, he was probably the fastest guy on the team from end to end. He could also really leap. Yet somehow he doesn't rely on his athleticism to get things done. It's almost like he uses it as a last resort."

You hear similar tales of awe from those who were with Diaw in Atlanta too.

"Everybody loves the chase-down block that LeBron is so good at, right?" Stotts said. "When we were watching video of [Diaw] before we drafted him, I can't tell you how many of those we saw. He's deceptively athletic with great timing and instincts. He has a wingspan that's deceptive too."

The capper comes from Cleveland Cavaliers general manager David Griffin, who, like Quinter, was an integral part of the Suns' front-office team when Diaw was acquired in a sign-and-trade for Joe Johnson orchestrated by then-Suns personnel chief Bryan Colangelo.

"Boris walks into the gym one day wearing flip-flops and holding his customary cappuccino, which was a staple for him every morning," Griffin recalled. "It was during pre-draft workouts, so he sees the Vertec [machine] and asks what it is.

"We tell him it measures your vertical leap by determining how many of the bars you can touch. He asks what's the highest anyone has ever gone, and we tell him Amare' [Stoudemire] cleared the entire rack.

"Boris puts down the cappuccino, takes off his flip-flops and clears the entire rack on the first try. Then he calmly puts his flip-flops back on, picks up his cappuccino and walks away, saying, 'That was not difficult.'"


http://www.espn.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/11084748/boris-diaw-dishes-san-antonio-spurs

Re: Suns History

Posted: Fri Sep 7, 2018 2:50 am
by TASTIC
scooper1030 wrote:For any Suns history buffs out there, The Timeline Podcast (which I must shamefully admit I co-host) just released a documentary episode about the 2009-2010 season. We got an original interview with Espo who shows up throughout the episode, but we also filled it with soundbites of game highlights, player interviews, reactions from analysts like Bill Simmons and Jalen Rose, and more. It's the first time we decided to go for a narrative episode instead of a discussion about the current team...but we'll be back to discussing the current Suns next week.

If you're interested in listening you can find the episode here (https://thetimelinepodcast.com/2018/08/09/episode-10-special-an-oral-history-of-the-2009-2010-phoenix-suns-featuring-espo/) or by searching The Timeline: A Phoenix Suns Podcast on iTunes, Google Play or Stitcher.

Hope I'm not breaking any self-promotion rules here by doing this, if so mods just please let me know.

Thanks!

That was a crazy season - the one me and the Aussie mob did the Destination Phoenix tour...Epic!

Re: Suns History

Posted: Fri Sep 7, 2018 11:08 pm
by Jarlaxle0204
3 former Suns being inducted tonight in Nash, Hill, and Kidd. Anyone else watching?

Re: Suns History

Posted: Fri Sep 7, 2018 11:34 pm
by Calvin Klein
Im already tearing up. I miss nash so much.

Re: Suns History

Posted: Sun Sep 9, 2018 8:53 pm
by denial
Just saw Al McCoy at the US Egg on 3rd and Bell. I was more in awe than if I saw nearly any NBA player.

He was eating and I decided not to bother him. But I could hear his patented voice as I sat only a few tables away. I had to force myself not to keep looking at him.

Al McCoy is quadruple OG, the definition of Suns History.

Re: Suns History

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:40 am
by bwgood77
Just saw on Suns post game...figured maybe worth posting...top 5 guys scoring ppg against us

Jordan
Durant
LeBron
Bird
Westbrook

Re: Suns History

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:40 pm
by bwgood77
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:40 am
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Re: Suns History

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:06 pm
by bwgood77
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Posted: Mon Apr 1, 2019 7:12 pm
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Re: Suns History

Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2019 3:26 am
by lilfishi22
Talking about Suns history, at 58-20 the dominant Bucks let by MVP and DPOY candidate Giannis Antetokounmpo is on track to finish the season with a 62-20 if they win their last 4 games.

For comparison, the Suns finished 62-20 in 2004-2005 with Nash winning the MVP (1 of 2) that season

Re: Suns History

Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2019 4:15 am
by sunskerr
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I maintain that we should have parted with Amare for a different star after Diaw broke out. If we could have grabbed KG we'd be looking at two championships back to back in 07 and 08, provided a duo of KG and Diaw don't leave the bench against the Spurs and Tim Donaghy isn't officiating. Nash/Bell/Marion/Diaw/KG is much, much more well-balanced with more playmakers to take pressure off Nash.

Or maybe Diaw was just a fat ass and would have ruined our chances even if we acquired KG. I don't know. :lol:

Re: Suns History

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2019 6:48 pm
by MathiasPW
On April 5th, 2019, the Suns won their first championship.

In an online poll made by a Brazilian chocolate powder brand, the Suns "misteriously" beat all other NBA teams and were selected to have a specially designed Suns bottle sold all across the country.

I don't confirm nor deny any involvement with influencing said poll.

This is the facebook page showing the result:

https://www.facebook.com/317833981609715/posts/2209805739079187/

Rejoice

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Re: Suns History

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:18 am
by bwgood77
Looking back at when we used to be in the playoffs, and looking back at the SSOL era's first playoff team and their first round series against the Grizzlies. It's pretty amazing that we had a TS% of 61.1% AS A TEAM for the series. That's pretty unbelievable. Barbosa also played 27 minutes in the entire series, and only 7 guys played more minutes. The 7th man played 69 minutes.

Earl Watson was on the Grizzlies. His TS% was 38.2% for the series.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2005-nba-western-conference-first-round-grizzlies-vs-suns.html

Re: Suns History

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:13 pm
by bwgood77
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:49 pm
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:38 pm
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Re: Suns History

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 8:05 pm
by Laughing Man
sunskerr wrote:
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I maintain that we should have parted with Amare for a different star after Diaw broke out. If we could have grabbed KG we'd be looking at two championships back to back in 07 and 08, provided a duo of KG and Diaw don't leave the bench against the Spurs and Tim Donaghy isn't officiating. Nash/Bell/Marion/Diaw/KG is much, much more well-balanced with more playmakers to take pressure off Nash.

Or maybe Diaw was just a fat ass and would have ruined our chances even if we acquired KG. I don't know. :lol:


Trading Amare for KG would have got us back to back Chips with the possibility of a 3rd down the line if we beat out the Lakers.

Diaw only got lazy I think because after his breakout season, Amare came back and Diaw's role was diminished.

With Diaw and KG, defense would have got better, team would still be fast as the duo of Nash and Marion was insanely deadly, Bell was still a shooter and Nash and Diaw played well off each other. Add in Grant Hill later and that team gets at least one more championship.