Game 10: OKC Thunder (5-4) @ Phoenix Suns (4-5) | Sunday | 6:00 PM

[grumpysaddle]

Except there's a glaring coaching problem, too. Are you seriously going to try and sell us on Vogel being good right now?

What's a coach to do without a PG and the closest thing to a PG sitting on the bench?

Oh, I don't know.. extricate his head from his ass and actually make some roster changes in the game? He could play Lee, yet he isn't. They just keep going to the same band of merry chuckers who can't hit a bucket if they were standing under it.

We can't afford to wait for JAN or the all star break to fix this mess.

Lee was like... -600 in preseason. He's an instant negative.

Suns just couldn't hit a shot in the 4th. That's the concerning part as it seems to be a thing every 4th. The shots that go down the first 3 quarters just don't seem to do that in the 4th.

[MrMiyagi]

Big 3: 0-0
Book/KD: 1-1
Book/Beal: 0-0
Beal/KD: 1-2
KD: 2-3
Book: 0-0
Beal: 0-0

Total: 4-6

[Calvin Klein]

The main responsible for this is the one guy who can't be fired.

i blame isiah thomas and ishbia

I've never been a hater of anybody in the Suns. But I'm a Matt Ishbia hater since day one.

[thamadkant]

The KD and Booker era has been ugly to watch from a team ball movement and flow perspective but you can excuse that if the team wins...

But man, the team is not only ugly to watch so far, but the outcome is meh at best.

Hopefully they can play above 0.500 until January.

[schnakenpopanz]

The main responsible for this is the one guy who can't be fired.

i blame isiah thomas and ishbia

JJ could have drafted Halliburton. JJ could have traded Ayton for Sabonis or Turner. This is on him.

I don't see it this way. That team reached very far. Panic moves are not good ones. And new toys for new owners are not for playing,

[Jdiddy701]

It might be time to be concerned about Frank Vogel. I might be in the minority in this, but I don’t think it’s a roster issue. Figured we’d miss Monty Williams. The Suns are playing with zero heart. These rotations are embarrassing. Starting Josh Okogie and playing KBD late in the game when we need scoring is just plain out stupid.

And I’m one to always protect coaches. This is just ugly.


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[SkyBill40]

What's a coach to do without a PG and the closest thing to a PG sitting on the bench?

Oh, I don't know.. extricate his head from his ass and actually make some roster changes in the game? He could play Lee, yet he isn't. They just keep going to the same band of merry chuckers who can't hit a bucket if they were standing under it.

We can't afford to wait for JAN or the all star break to fix this mess.

John Wall and now Saben Lee? I'm glad you're neither coach nor GM

Lee is actually on the roster and available to play. He plays point and has shown to be decent enough and better than what's been played at the position so far. But go ahead and keep acting as though you've got all the answers. I'm glad you're neither the coach or GM, either: You'd be sitting there just as stupid looking and lost as Vogel and Williams before him.

[sunskerr]

This is brutal without Book lol

[lilfishi22]

Another frustrating loss with another disappointing 4th quarter. Teams know they just need to stay within striking distance heading into the 4th to have a chance and that's what they've been able to do.

We don't have anyone running an semblance of an offense out there other than what is generated by KD and Beal. Neither guys are guys you lean on to be your playmakers so to lean on them for that has expectedly not yielded the results we're after. I'm going to guess we're going to see what we can do between now and mid-Dec when more players become trade eligible before we do anything drastic. We'll see what our team looks like out there with the Big 3 on the court and then reevaluate.

[RaisingArizona]

This place is so melodramatic. I get venting but jeeze

[MrMiyagi]

Remember when we used to be the best 4th quarter team in the NBA?

[SkyBill40]

The main responsible for this is the one guy who can't be fired.

i blame isiah thomas and ishbia

JJ could have drafted Halliburton. JJ could have traded Ayton for Sabonis or Turner. This is on him.

Exactly. But some people here want to give Jones credit for being such a great GM when he's been nothing remotely close to it. He didn't deserve that EotY award.

[bwgood77]

Glad we pulled out that Bulls game or we would be one game out of last place in the west.

The young up and coming Thunder showing the old guard the future.

[Funky Tut]

Shhhhaaaaaaiiiiii

[lilfishi22]

Oh, I don't know.. extricate his head from his ass and actually make some roster changes in the game? He could play Lee, yet he isn't. They just keep going to the same band of merry chuckers who can't hit a bucket if they were standing under it.

We can't afford to wait for JAN or the all star break to fix this mess.

John Wall and now Saben Lee? I'm glad you're neither coach nor GM

Lee is actually on the roster and available to play. He plays point and has shown to be decent enough and better than what's been played at the position so far. But go ahead and keep acting as though you've got all the answers. I'm glad you're neither the coach or GM, either: You'd be sitting there just as stupid looking and lost as Vogel and Williams before him.

I can look stupid at home. At least I don't look like a loud fool for everyone on this board to see

[LukasBMW]

Gotta wait until all 3 are healthy and have the rust off before we judge.

I see potential. Sometimes the ball movement is awesome and you can tell that having multiple scoring threats will be a problem.

Other times, it is just ugly.

Worst case scenario, we have a ton of trad-able assets and we can adjust on the fly if needed.

[Jdiddy701]

Gotta wait until all 3 are healthy and have the rust off before we judge.

I see potential. Sometimes the ball movement is awesome and you can tell that having multiple scoring threats will be a problem.

Other times, it is just ugly.

Worst case scenario, we have a ton of trad-able assets and we can adjust on the fly if needed.

I agree we have to wait but the roster we have without Booker should be enough to win these games. I think we’ll figure it out but it shouldnt be on Book to save us. Frank Vogel has been awful.


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[sunsbum]

The main responsible for this is the one guy who can't be fired.

i blame isiah thomas and ishbia

JJ could have drafted Halliburton. JJ could have traded Ayton for Sabonis or Turner. This is on him.

like clockwork.

[SkyBill40]

John Wall and now Saben Lee? I'm glad you're neither coach nor GM

Lee is actually on the roster and available to play. He plays point and has shown to be decent enough and better than what's been played at the position so far. But go ahead and keep acting as though you've got all the answers. I'm glad you're neither the coach or GM, either: You'd be sitting there just as stupid looking and lost as Vogel and Williams before him.

I can look stupid at home. At least I don't look like a loud fool for everyone on this board to see

[MrMiyagi]

Worst case scenario, we have a ton of trad-able assets and we can adjust on the fly if needed.

Like who? Who wants these dudes? We trading KD? Book?

Not seeing a lot of value from the rest of our guys, and we have no picks.