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Bogyo wrote:While I was aware his injury history factually before the trade, and I saw it as a warning sign, I honestly did not believe that this could be this shity... I thought that about 10-15 games a year of those were tanking-related "injuries"... maybe they were and we are just sunsy (extremely unlucky, like with KDs ankle sprain last year, or the "clockwork" CP3 second round playoff injury), but man this is fng disgusting dementor-type sht this season

Bradley Beal hinted at a Christmas return: "I’m going to try to wrap this [ankle] up. In the back of my head, I pray I’m ready for Christmas because my boys love to watch me play...And I’m happy that I have an opportunity to be able to play on Christmas. There’s no better feeling, no better gift than that.

This tweet was inaccurate. Story had Beal saying “wrap,” which to me indicated his ankle. In reality, it seems in this video Beal says “ramp this thing up,” which would mean his recovery.

Video here. Apologies:

Bradley Beal over the last 4 games:

23.0 PPG
4.5 RPG
4.0 APG
53% FG

sunskerr wrote:looks very good so far. very pleased with his last few games. still think we didnt need to give up the 2nd rounders for him because washington wanted out and he had a NTC. but jones usually gets boned when it comes down to sticking it out. if he is healthy this is way better for us than old man paul.

Bogyo wrote:

sunskerr wrote:looks very good so far. very pleased with his last few games. still think we didnt need to give up the 2nd rounders for him because washington wanted out and he had a NTC. but jones usually gets boned when it comes down to sticking it out. if he is healthy this is way better for us than old man paul.

Spot on - on all accounts. JJ stuff I won't get into, if someone will, there is written evidence around here of me disliking his shortcomings in every trade since he made his first trade for us (or for the opposing team if you look at it that way )

As for Beal - out of our 3 stars he seems to play the right way, and with passion and effort, and trying to do the right thing. I mean: either take it to the hole after an agressive cut or a purposeful drive, or shoot a 3. Very little of this slowdown iso bullcrap "middy" "in my bag" (boy, do I hate those slangs, its just fake and lazy trying to be cool, but sounding like an arrogant douche through and through). Furthermore Beal looks to be the right personnality too - his interviews are a breath of fresh air after the generic bs that KD and Book cough up to the media after every game. Beal is thoughtful, arcitulate, and honest as I see it now. Just the attitude this team needs - and desperatley needs right now! His spirits seem to raise the others around him, vocal enough on the court too (while not chewing out the "Metu's" of this team for an error that he regularly makes - yes I'm looking at Booker).
All in all, I am really happy he is on this team - he could save our season, as his 2 co-stars are pretty crap if you are looking beyond the counting stats, and into the shot selection, the defense, the attitude, etc...

Yes, his contract seems bad - but I bet that when the new TV money comes in, and the new extension teams come in it won't really matter - or at least shouldn't. All previous owners will be making a one-off of 250-300 mio on the extension alone. That will happen in 1-3 years. New TV deal is around the corner. I think salaries will double in the next 5 years, and owners have a "free" year as extension will pay for one year of salaries with any team.

Bogyo wrote:

sunskerr wrote:looks very good so far. very pleased with his last few games. still think we didnt need to give up the 2nd rounders for him because washington wanted out and he had a NTC. but jones usually gets boned when it comes down to sticking it out. if he is healthy this is way better for us than old man paul.

Spot on - on all accounts. JJ stuff I won't get into, if someone will, there is written evidence around here of me disliking his shortcomings in every trade since he made his first trade for us (or for the opposing team if you look at it that way )

As for Beal - out of our 3 stars he seems to play the right way, and with passion and effort, and trying to do the right thing. I mean: either take it to the hole after an agressive cut or a purposeful drive, or shoot a 3. Very little of this slowdown iso bullcrap "middy" "in my bag" (boy, do I hate those slangs, its just fake and lazy trying to be cool, but sounding like an arrogant douche through and through). Furthermore Beal looks to be the right personnality too - his interviews are a breath of fresh air after the generic bs that KD and Book cough up to the media after every game. Beal is thoughtful, arcitulate, and honest as I see it now. Just the attitude this team needs - and desperatley needs right now! His spirits seem to raise the others around him, vocal enough on the court too (while not chewing out the "Metu's" of this team for an error that he regularly makes - yes I'm looking at Booker).
All in all, I am really happy he is on this team - he could save our season, as his 2 co-stars are pretty crap if you are looking beyond the counting stats, and into the shot selection, the defense, the attitude, etc...

Yes, his contract seems bad - but I bet that when the new TV money comes in, and the new extension teams come in it won't really matter - or at least shouldn't. All previous owners will be making a one-off of 250-300 mio on the extension alone. That will happen in 1-3 years. New TV deal is around the corner. I think salaries will double in the next 5 years, and owners have a "free" year as extension will pay for one year of salaries with any team.

sashaturiaf wrote:He's looking more like himself, but I still feel he's too good a scorer to be a 3rd banana on offense. People didn't watch the Wizards but Beal is an absolutely elite 3 level scorer, dare I say it his peak as a scorer is above what Book has put up for a full season. Seeing him catch a cold in the corner watching KD/Book dribble is just such a waste, I haven't checked his usage rate this season but it won't surprise me if it's at Austin Reaves levels or lower.

Unfortunately that's a roster construction issue, so we'll have to play this out and whether he's able to adjust.

bwgood77 wrote:

sashaturiaf wrote:He's looking more like himself, but I still feel he's too good a scorer to be a 3rd banana on offense. People didn't watch the Wizards but Beal is an absolutely elite 3 level scorer, dare I say it his peak as a scorer is above what Book has put up for a full season. Seeing him catch a cold in the corner watching KD/Book dribble is just such a waste, I haven't checked his usage rate this season but it won't surprise me if it's at Austin Reaves levels or lower.

Unfortunately that's a roster construction issue, so we'll have to play this out and whether he's able to adjust.

Beal is shooting over 55% from 2 and over 42% from 3, with over a 60% TS%. He's better from 2 than either KD or Book this year. HIs eFG% is right behind KD at 57.3% while Book's is 54%. They are about the same on TS% because Beal has struggled a bit at the line and Book beats him by a bit there...89% to 76%.

Beal and Book have been very similar throughout their careers. I don't understand the huge difference in what people say, like 1 is an MVP candidate and the other is awful....they will make the same next year. People say Beal's is the worst contract is the league. Does that mean Book's will be too next year?

Book has averaged more assists this year, but also more turnovers. Book seems worse at allowing himself to get trapped too and not moving the ball before that happens.

sashaturiaf wrote:

bwgood77 wrote:

sashaturiaf wrote:He's looking more like himself, but I still feel he's too good a scorer to be a 3rd banana on offense. People didn't watch the Wizards but Beal is an absolutely elite 3 level scorer, dare I say it his peak as a scorer is above what Book has put up for a full season. Seeing him catch a cold in the corner watching KD/Book dribble is just such a waste, I haven't checked his usage rate this season but it won't surprise me if it's at Austin Reaves levels or lower.

Unfortunately that's a roster construction issue, so we'll have to play this out and whether he's able to adjust.

Beal is shooting over 55% from 2 and over 42% from 3, with over a 60% TS%. He's better from 2 than either KD or Book this year. HIs eFG% is right behind KD at 57.3% while Book's is 54%. They are about the same on TS% because Beal has struggled a bit at the line and Book beats him by a bit there...89% to 76%.

Beal and Book have been very similar throughout their careers. I don't understand the huge difference in what people say, like 1 is an MVP candidate and the other is awful....they will make the same next year. People say Beal's is the worst contract is the league. Does that mean Book's will be too next year?

Book has averaged more assists this year, but also more turnovers. Book seems worse at allowing himself to get trapped too and not moving the ball before that happens.

Beal's deal (and Book's upcoming one) will be bad if you're letting them play a role that Austin Reaves can play. There is nothing wrong with Beal the player, guy made all-NBA on the Washington Wizards that is a 10.0 degree of difficulty

lilfishi22 wrote:Since Beal has been back

10 game sample since 29 Dec 2023

PPG: 19.8
RPG: 4.3
APG: 4.4
SPG: 1.0
TO: 2.3
BPG: 0.4
MPG: 35.7
FG%: .533
2P%: .593
3P%: .381
TS%: .610

Efficient, productive and only getting started

Saberestar wrote:Beal on the Suns is an elite all-around G that can make a bit of everything at a high level rather than a pure scorer.

What do you guys think so far about his defense and all-around game?

I think that his versatility on offense is underrated and he is doing a variety of things: playmaker, ball handler, screener, ISO scorer, 3p catch&shoot ...

He is showing that he is good defender when he doesn't have to carry a team on offense. A good athlete that can really help on different areas, even at rebounding.