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Ghost of Kleine wrote:bwgood77 wrote:dremill24 wrote:
I havent dug into all the logistics in how its all applied but you're not losing picks in any scenario. Just the inability to trade them/them moving automatically to the end of the 1st round.
Sounds like someone on the GB has some more knowledge about this....this is probably mostly good news...It's the pick that is seven years out that gets locked.
The first time you are over the 2nd apron, you lose the ability to trade your pick 7 years out. That pick is now frozen.
If you then go over the 2nd apron multiple years, the "frozen" pick is stuck with you and now drops to the end of the round.
Starting 2024-25, a team’s pick is frozen the first year it exceeds the second apron and then is moved to the end of the first round if it exceeds in 2 of the next 4 years (a total of 3 out of 5 seasons).
Examples they gave:
If the Suns are a second apron team during the 2024-25 season, they are not allowed to trade their 2032 first-round pick. The pick is deemed frozen.
If the Suns are a second apron team in 2024-25, 2025-26, and 2026-27, then their 2032 first will be moved to the end of the first round.
The Suns, as it stands, would not be a second apron team (I believe) in 26-27 because KD expires on 27. So that pick wouldn't move unless we extend him or trade him and bring back a similar $ amount.
It's actually nice our pick is frozen...it's protecting Ish from himself, but it would be nice if it didn't move to the end of the first round. Knowing us, we'd have had a good chance at the #1 pick when some super generational player is coming out.
All great points!
Sometimes a franchise must be protected from itself in the context of very poor and/or impulsive front office decisuions, so having to keep our pick in this context might obviously be a blessing in disguise? BU?T ALSO, IF our pick is automatically moved to the very last pick of the draft, the one distinct advantage in this might be that at least we'd know well beforehand where we'd be picking, and the established value range of said pick too. I guess it looks like it also might not be so bad in this situation to have discussions on 2nd round talents or those possibly further back seeing as that's how it looks like things will play out for us going forward anyways.
Nothing wrong with being ahead of the curve on things!
NapoleonII wrote:Breathe the free air again, my friends.
Many things to not be sour on:
-Beal's emergence as a max player (lol)
-Health
-Defense
-4th quarter woes turning into pretty, pretty, pretty good's
--Match-up vs Minny (although I think it's kinda rotten we had them scheduled last. We now have to beat them 5/8 times?!)
-- Locking up the best role player shooter in the NBA
--Largely having this roster again next year.
Locked and loaded, let's make history as the 6th seed making the finals and let KD do the rest.
garrick wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
Sounds like someone on the GB has some more knowledge about this....this is probably mostly good news...
The Suns, as it stands, would not be a second apron team (I believe) in 26-27 because KD expires on 27. So that pick wouldn't move unless we extend him or trade him and bring back a similar $ amount.
It's actually nice our pick is frozen...it's protecting Ish from himself, but it would be nice if it didn't move to the end of the first round. Knowing us, we'd have had a good chance at the #1 pick when some super generational player is coming out.
All great points!
Sometimes a franchise must be protected from itself in the context of very poor and/or impulsive front office decisuions, so having to keep our pick in this context might obviously be a blessing in disguise? BU?T ALSO, IF our pick is automatically moved to the very last pick of the draft, the one distinct advantage in this might be that at least we'd know well beforehand where we'd be picking, and the established value range of said pick too. I guess it looks like it also might not be so bad in this situation to have discussions on 2nd round talents or those possibly further back seeing as that's how it looks like things will play out for us going forward anyways.
Nothing wrong with being ahead of the curve on things!
I wonder what happens when multiple teams are in consecutive years in the 2nd apron? Maybe they get ranked in order of which team is the most over the 2nd apron? I guess either way we will be dead last because Ishbia is probably going to outspend the GSW at this rate and we still haven't signed Royce yet to an extension.
LV-Suns wrote:Is he going to available throughout the playoffs? It sounded like he had one foot out of the door all season interviewing for all of the jobs. I never got the feeling that he gelled with Vogel, not sure how much of an input he even had on this team.
Young, who was born in Salt Lake City, will continue working with the Suns in the playoffs, but will begin assembling a coaching staff that'll immediately start recruiting for BYU, sources said.
Saberestar wrote:LV-Suns wrote:Is he going to available throughout the playoffs? It sounded like he had one foot out of the door all season interviewing for all of the jobs. I never got the feeling that he gelled with Vogel, not sure how much of an input he even had on this team.Young, who was born in Salt Lake City, will continue working with the Suns in the playoffs, but will begin assembling a coaching staff that'll immediately start recruiting for BYU, sources said.
sunsfan1o1 wrote:Kevin Young is awful. This is great news.
Saberestar wrote:LV-Suns wrote:Is he going to available throughout the playoffs? It sounded like he had one foot out of the door all season interviewing for all of the jobs. I never got the feeling that he gelled with Vogel, not sure how much of an input he even had on this team.Young, who was born in Salt Lake City, will continue working with the Suns in the playoffs, but will begin assembling a coaching staff that'll immediately start recruiting for BYU, sources said.
SunsRback4Good wrote:sunsfan1o1 wrote:Kevin Young is awful. This is great news.
Awful? He got our team to the finals just 3 seasons ago.. and don’t say Chris Paul did one player does not make a difference in making it that far. Young was beneficial in getting us to the finals.
