ImageImageImage

Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM

Moderators: bwgood77, Qwigglez, lilfishi22

User avatar
grumpysaddle
RealGM
Posts: 20,682
And1: 14,017
Joined: Feb 22, 2009
Location: San Diego
   

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#21 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:36 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:
grumpysaddle wrote:Nurkic gonna score 80. Big 3 gonna score 10. Weird basketball is weird, but if it's a win, and a convincing win, I'll take it every game.


I believe 80 will be Nurks career high, but may need to check for certainty.

**** it. Nurk going for 100
Image
SunsRback4Good
RealGM
Posts: 29,386
And1: 11,660
Joined: May 13, 2011
     

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#22 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:39 am

SkyBill40 wrote:I'm having difficulty understanding how we are so utterly porous on defense. It's just crazy bad.


CamJ, Crowder, CP3, Bridges lost 4 good to great defenders and you wonder why our team utterly stinks?
User avatar
enigmatics
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,272
And1: 3,339
Joined: Jun 18, 2007
     

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#23 » by enigmatics » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:43 am

I really wish these guys would trap the passer more often instead of dropping back or trying to run over/under screens.
User avatar
King4Day
RealGM
Posts: 13,094
And1: 9,273
Joined: Dec 11, 2010
Location: Pandora
         

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#24 » by King4Day » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:44 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:
grumpysaddle wrote:Nurkic gonna score 80. Big 3 gonna score 10. Weird basketball is weird, but if it's a win, and a convincing win, I'll take it every game.


I believe 80 will be Nurks career high, but may need to check for certainty.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
"Sometimes, the dragon wins" #RallyTheValley
User avatar
alldayeveryday
Veteran
Posts: 2,939
And1: 1,148
Joined: Feb 07, 2008
       

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#25 » by alldayeveryday » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:45 am

If either N. Smith Jr./B. Miller cools down, and Gordon can start hitting these wide-open looks; it would be encouraging in the second half.
User avatar
enigmatics
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,272
And1: 3,339
Joined: Jun 18, 2007
     

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#26 » by enigmatics » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:49 am

Amazing what PASSING and FLOW will do for an offense instead of ego-laden iso ball enabled by lazy coaching.
dmastro32
Rookie
Posts: 1,053
And1: 503
Joined: Feb 22, 2015
         

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#27 » by dmastro32 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:02 am

Flop much
User avatar
SkyBill40
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,057
And1: 3,887
Joined: Oct 24, 2014
Location: Phoenix
       

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#28 » by SkyBill40 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:02 am

Another successful graduate from the Vlade Divac school of flopping.

What a joke.
SunsRback4Good
RealGM
Posts: 29,386
And1: 11,660
Joined: May 13, 2011
     

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#29 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:03 am

dmastro32 wrote:Flop much


Flipping is sacred in the sport of basketball
Jdiddy701
RealGM
Posts: 10,147
And1: 6,555
Joined: Jun 05, 2006

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#30 » by Jdiddy701 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:08 am

Couple of things:

I don’t think there’s another official I dislike more than Marc Davis. He is awful.

And if the league is really trying to stop flopping, that foul on Beal should been reversed and the Hornets player should have got a tech. I don’t understand why they continue to reward obvious flops


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
User avatar
grumpysaddle
RealGM
Posts: 20,682
And1: 14,017
Joined: Feb 22, 2009
Location: San Diego
   

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#31 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:08 am

These officials are absolute trash. First the double tech copout bull****, then reviewing that offensive foul and actually not reversing it on an obvious flop. Suns and the worst officials, name a more iconic duo...
Image
User avatar
grumpysaddle
RealGM
Posts: 20,682
And1: 14,017
Joined: Feb 22, 2009
Location: San Diego
   

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#32 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:10 am

enigmatics wrote:Amazing what PASSING and FLOW will do for an offense instead of ego-laden iso ball enabled by lazy coaching.


Wondering if this is Vogel's offense or Young's. They've obviously stopped whoever's it was the rest of the season so far. It looks night and day, but the defense still needs work.
Image
User avatar
grumpysaddle
RealGM
Posts: 20,682
And1: 14,017
Joined: Feb 22, 2009
Location: San Diego
   

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#33 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:11 am

enigmatics wrote:I really wish these guys would trap the passer more often instead of dropping back or trying to run over/under screens.

They do a weird in-between trap that actually is worse than just playing straight up. Like, they show trap and lose their man and then fall back. It's not smart defense.
Image
User avatar
sashaturiaf
Veteran
Posts: 2,815
And1: 2,838
Joined: Jan 18, 2021
 

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#34 » by sashaturiaf » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:13 am

First suns game I've watched after the Blazers debacle.

Were playing like we've had a players only meeting, the aggression and ball movement is different.
SunsRback4Good
RealGM
Posts: 29,386
And1: 11,660
Joined: May 13, 2011
     

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#35 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:18 am

sashaturiaf wrote:First suns game I've watched after the Blazers debacle.

We’re playing like we've had a players only meeting, the aggression and ball movement is different.


Nah, it’s the Beal effect. Wherever Beal goes the team improves tremendously, he just seems to get injured constantly. But all his teams normally excel.
User avatar
alldayeveryday
Veteran
Posts: 2,939
And1: 1,148
Joined: Feb 07, 2008
       

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#36 » by alldayeveryday » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:22 am

Can we eliminate some of our stadium audio audibles? The fake defense chants are played out. Also, watching on TV, it feels like the music during the offense/defense sets echoes and ruins the whole hearing experience. I'm turning into a boomer, I know.
dmastro32
Rookie
Posts: 1,053
And1: 503
Joined: Feb 22, 2015
         

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#37 » by dmastro32 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:24 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:Couple of things:

I don’t think there’s another official I dislike more than Marc Davis. He is awful.

And if the league is really trying to stop flopping, that foul on Beal should been reversed and the Hornets player should have got a tech. I don’t understand why they continue to reward obvious flops


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


The female on his crew is atrocious too
SunsRback4Good
RealGM
Posts: 29,386
And1: 11,660
Joined: May 13, 2011
     

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#38 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:25 am

Pretty impressive how Durant hasn’t missed a shot yet and we are already in the 3rd Q.
User avatar
grumpysaddle
RealGM
Posts: 20,682
And1: 14,017
Joined: Feb 22, 2009
Location: San Diego
   

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#39 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:26 am

I like Book being aggressive and looking for his shot.
Image
User avatar
SkyBill40
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,057
And1: 3,887
Joined: Oct 24, 2014
Location: Phoenix
       

Re: Game 31: Charlotte Hornets (7-22) @ Phoenix Suns (15-15) | Friday | 7:00PM 

Post#40 » by SkyBill40 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:26 am

alldayeveryday wrote:Can we eliminate some of our stadium audio audibles? The fake defense chants are played out. Also, watching on TV, it feels like the music during the offense/defense sets echoes and ruins the whole hearing experience. I'm turning into a boomer, I know.


I wish we'd get rid of a lot of that crap.

Return to Phoenix Suns