Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
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Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
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Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:03 am
Also, Draymond needs to be set out to pasture. Eff that guy. Should be at least a 10 game suspension. That was some UFC windup spin sh*t
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:10 am
grumpysaddle wrote:Also, Draymond needs to be set out to pasture. Eff that guy. Should be at least a 10 game suspension. That was some UFC windup spin sh*t
10 games is a pipedream he'll be unlucky to get 2 games.
Artest got 7 games for his blatant elbow to Hardens head even with his poor record so I wouldn't expect anything serious for this one.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:12 am
SkyBill40 wrote:Qwigglez wrote:And this is why Bol Bol doesn't play, 2:55 of gametime and he's -10.
Meh. I've never really thought much of plus/minus.
Bol is awful. First, he gets a chance at a 3. Misses it. That is fine, because you aren't going to make them all. But he should have immediately got back on defense instead of standing there for another half second to second, then he has to spring up the court, decides to go under the basket to find "his guy" instead of the wide-open Saric.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:13 am
grumpysaddle wrote:Also, Draymond needs to be set out to pasture. Eff that guy. Should be at least a 10 game suspension. That was some UFC windup spin sh*t
Adam Silver is too soft, he’s gonna give Draymond a fine and maybe 5 games at most even though he’s like a 10x repeat offender. He should be banned from the league entirely.
It’s crazy how players like OJ Mayo got banned from the NBA indefinitely for weed while a guy like Draymond still gets to play over and over again.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:15 am
Qwigglez wrote:SkyBill40 wrote:Qwigglez wrote:And this is why Bol Bol doesn't play, 2:55 of gametime and he's -10.
Meh. I've never really thought much of plus/minus.
Bol is awful. First, he gets a chance at a 3. Misses it. That is fine, because you aren't going to make them all. But he should have immediately got back on defense instead of standing there for another half second to second, then he has to spring up the court, decides to go under the basket to find "his guy" instead of the wide-open Saric.
I wonder if Vogel was that desperate to try playing Bol Bol or if he has some kind of pressure from Ishbia to give him some minutes because Bol Bol should never see the floor except in a blowout. Dude is a total zero on both offense and defense.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:25 am
garrick wrote:
I wonder if Vogel was that desperate to try playing Bol Bol or if he has some kind of pressure from Ishbia to give him some minutes because Bol Bol should never see the floor except in a blowout. Dude is a total zero on both offense and defense.
I actually thought it was a perfect opportunity for Bol Bol to showcase if he's learned anything being on a team with KD, Beal, and Booker. Doesn't appear so, or Bol's basketball IQ is just significantly low.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:30 am
grumpysaddle wrote:Also, Draymond needs to be set out to pasture. Eff that guy. Should be at least a 10 game suspension. That was some UFC windup spin sh*t
He needs therapy. Like he seems like a miserable person
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:33 am
garrick wrote:Qwigglez wrote:SkyBill40 wrote:
Meh. I've never really thought much of plus/minus.
Bol is awful. First, he gets a chance at a 3. Misses it. That is fine, because you aren't going to make them all. But he should have immediately got back on defense instead of standing there for another half second to second, then he has to spring up the court, decides to go under the basket to find "his guy" instead of the wide-open Saric.
I wonder if Vogel was that desperate to try playing Bol Bol or if he has some kind of pressure from Ishbia to give him some minutes because Bol Bol should never see the floor except in a blowout. Dude is a total zero on both offense and defense.
I think we should rotating the bench around a ton until guys give a **** about turnovers and grabbing a defensive rebound.
We should have a 0 tolerance policy for that **** and start sitting some guys immediately when they toss it away or don't box out.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:36 am
Bol will be cut to add a buyout guy or just to hold an extra spot. No reason for him to be rostered on a serious team. As for the game, ugly W but at least the secured the win without KD.
Also, Green needs to be on a damn leash. Get him out of the league.
Also, Green needs to be on a damn leash. Get him out of the league.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:12 am
Blonde wrote:Bol will be cut to add a buyout guy or just to hold an extra spot. No reason for him to be rostered on a serious team. As for the game, ugly W but at least the secured the win without KD.
Also, Green needs to be on a damn leash. Get him out of the league.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:30 am
Qwigglez wrote:SkyBill40 wrote:Qwigglez wrote:And this is why Bol Bol doesn't play, 2:55 of gametime and he's -10.
Meh. I've never really thought much of plus/minus.
Bol is awful. First, he gets a chance at a 3. Misses it. That is fine, because you aren't going to make them all. But he should have immediately got back on defense instead of standing there for another half second to second, then he has to spring up the court, decides to go under the basket to find "his guy" instead of the wide-open Saric.
I remember this play but didn't know how Dario got so open until I saw this.
Bol has no business playing any minutes that aren't in garbage time
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:32 am
I don't really mind Draymond's antics too much maybe due to how soft the league has gotten in recent years.
Unless he's trying to cause some serious injury he's more of an annoyance & pest but not someone who's trying to really cripple players or something.
Unless he's trying to cause some serious injury he's more of an annoyance & pest but not someone who's trying to really cripple players or something.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:39 am
Suns should’ve kept Biyombo over signing Bol Bol. Biyombo as an emergency backup makes more sense.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:42 am
garrick wrote:I don't really mind Draymond's antics too much maybe due to how soft the league has gotten in recent years.
Unless he's trying to cause some serious injury he's more of an annoyance & pest but not someone who's trying to really cripple players or something.
I generally agree the NBA goes to tech's and ejections too quickly but this isn't one of those times. Absolutely no excuse whatsoever. He had Nurk on his back and Nurk wasn't pushing Draymond in a way that would've turned him around and caused Draymond to swing his arms up.
It was completely unnecessary, excessive and ridiculous
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:42 am
Revived wrote:Suns should’ve kept Biyombo over signing Bol Bol. Biyombo as an emergency backup makes more sense.
Imagine Biyombo & Saric coming off the bench with Gordon, Goodwin, & Watanabe. Would be a much better bench unit.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:44 am
Calvin Klein wrote:This is the type of situation that happens when you don't have a proper point guard.
Late game execution is night and day when you have an elite PG like CP3 running the show over the last few years. Even last season when he wasn't good, you can feel relatively comfortable that we weren't going to blow up back to back to back possessions in the clutch because he just won't let us.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:52 am
lilfishi22 wrote:Qwigglez wrote:SkyBill40 wrote:
Meh. I've never really thought much of plus/minus.
Bol is awful. First, he gets a chance at a 3. Misses it. That is fine, because you aren't going to make them all. But he should have immediately got back on defense instead of standing there for another half second to second, then he has to spring up the court, decides to go under the basket to find "his guy" instead of the wide-open Saric.
I remember this play but didn't know how Dario got so open until I saw this.
Bol has no business playing any minutes that aren't in garbage time
He is far from the only one doing this. Our team has 0 awareness. Half our guys haul ass to get on transition defense when their matchup has not leaked out. We lose a ton of potential O rebounds doing this. Yuta in particular does this a bunch. Then, despite being down there they do not match up when the opposition gets to midcourt so we give up secondary break 3s despite having more players back than offensive players for the opposition.
We have a lot of miscommunications on switches and cross matchups, a lot of passes going to guys who inexplicably do not expect the ball, directly to a defender, or to guys who see the ball coming to them despite being guarded and do not come back to it. We are a lazy, unfocused team that desperately needs accountability. It's infuriating because all it would take is a little bit of discipline / accountability and effort for this team to be a top 4 seed right now even with the injuries. We are an absolute mess and if it doesn't start to show real improvement we have no chance of actually contending.
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:56 am
Re: Game 23: Golden State Warriors (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (12-10) | Tuesday | 8:00PM
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:22 am
MrMiyagi wrote:Big 3: 0-0
Book/KD: 7-3
Book/Beal: 1-0
Beal/KD: 1-2
KD: 2-4
Book: 2-1
Beal: 0-0
Total: 13-10
The real info here is
With Book: 10-4
Without Book: 3-6