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Game 25: New York Knicks (13-10) @ Phoenix Suns (13-11) | Friday | 8:00PM

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Which big 3 will have more pts/reb/ast?

Beal, Booker and KD
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33%
Barrett, Brunson and Randle
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67%
 
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Post#61 » by Jdiddy701 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:33 am

bwgood77 wrote:I don't mind Book playing PG like a lot of people do...I think he's done well, but a couple of bad turnovers there.

Yep, pretty lazy passes by him and Grayson inbounding the ball.


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Post#62 » by bwgood77 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:33 am

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grumpysaddle wrote:Officials LOVE called Book for fouls.

That was not a foul. Vogel is awful at challenging. I know that’s only one on Book but you have to challenge that. Book picks up fouls way too easily.

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I don't think they care much for Book. I think the more you argue with refs, the worse you get it.
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Post#63 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:34 am

bwgood77 wrote:I don't mind Book playing PG like a lot of people do...I think he's done well, but a couple of bad turnovers there.

I kind of want him to come out looking to get his one game though. It will throw the other teams off since he's been trying to be the facilitator to start games all season long.

If he gets himself going it will only help to spread the floor for facilitation.
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Post#64 » by AtheJ415 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:34 am

These lazy turnovers demand accountability even if it's Book or KD committing them. This **** is inexcusable
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Post#65 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:35 am

So even though the Warriors aren't playing, we need to hear about the Warriors because Myers is commentating. GTFOH.
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Post#66 » by SkyBill40 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:35 am

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grumpysaddle wrote:Officials LOVE called Book for fouls.

That was not a foul. Vogel is awful at challenging. I know that’s only one on Book but you have to challenge that. Book picks up fouls way too easily.

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I don't think they care much for Book. I think the more you argue with refs, the worse you get it.


He's developing the rep as a complainer/whiner and it's not a good look. I get that he's a known commodity and a big name/face for the league and all, but he's not really helping himself or the team with constantly looking for or expecting calls based merely on who he is.
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Post#67 » by bwgood77 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:35 am

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bwgood77 wrote:I don't mind Book playing PG like a lot of people do...I think he's done well, but a couple of bad turnovers there.

I kind of want him to come out looking to get his one game though. It will throw the other teams off since he's been trying to be the facilitator to start games all season long.

If he gets himself going it will only help to spread the floor for facilitation.


He's extremely efficient though...more than ever, at near 63% TS%, and he's scoring an all time high per game at over 28, with over 8 assists. I'm not sure how much people expect.
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Post#68 » by AtheJ415 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:36 am

We just had an offensive possession where Allen drove to middle of court, jumped, spun around having nobody to pass to and found a guy last second to dump it to, swung it to a covered KD who took an awkward off balance 2 where his feet landed spread out sideways in a defensive position with 14 seconds on the clock.

This led to a runout where Randle got matched on Book. This offense **** sucks
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Post#69 » by AtheJ415 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:37 am

Props to Little. He came back and got a would have been turnover. Seems to be alert
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Post#70 » by bwgood77 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:37 am

AtheJ415 wrote:We just had an offensive possession where Allen drove to middle of court, jumped, spun around having nobody to pass to and found a guy last second to dump it to, swung it to a covered KD who took an awkward off balance 2 where his feet landed spread out sideways in a defensive position with 14 seconds on the clock.

This led to a runout where Randle got matched on Book. This offense **** sucks


I remember when Nash would run under the basket and jump and then look for someone to pass to...usually with at least 17 seconds on the clock, given we were SSOL.
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Post#71 » by SkyBill40 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:38 am

We have nothing to put on Randle in terms of sheer size and he's eating us up. I hope our shooting continues because we need every available bucket to drop if we're going to win against a highly scrappy Knicks team.
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Post#72 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:39 am

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Post#73 » by SkyBill40 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:42 am

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Post#74 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:42 am

bwgood77 wrote:
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grumpysaddle wrote:Officials LOVE called Book for fouls.

That was not a foul. Vogel is awful at challenging. I know that’s only one on Book but you have to challenge that. Book picks up fouls way too easily.

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I don't think they care much for Book. I think the more you argue with refs, the worse you get it.


That’s why Scott Foster despises Chris Paul all that nagging has brought frustration every time Foster sees CP3. I know Foster is hated by many on this board, but why does Paul have way more issues with him than any other player in the league.
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Post#75 » by AtheJ415 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:42 am

bwgood77 wrote:
grumpysaddle wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I don't mind Book playing PG like a lot of people do...I think he's done well, but a couple of bad turnovers there.

I kind of want him to come out looking to get his one game though. It will throw the other teams off since he's been trying to be the facilitator to start games all season long.

If he gets himself going it will only help to spread the floor for facilitation.


He's extremely efficient though...more than ever, at near 63% TS%, and he's scoring an all time high per game at over 28, with over 8 assists. I'm not sure how much people expect.


I said way back when in Book's 2nd year that we should be modeling him after Harden and not Klay. A less self-agrandizing, mature Harden who plays within a system and defends is a top 10 player of all time.

Our issue is not starting PG. Maybe backup PG. It's primarily coaching and to a lesser extent health.
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Post#76 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:43 am

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bwgood77 wrote:I don't mind Book playing PG like a lot of people do...I think he's done well, but a couple of bad turnovers there.

I kind of want him to come out looking to get his one game though. It will throw the other teams off since he's been trying to be the facilitator to start games all season long.

If he gets himself going it will only help to spread the floor for facilitation.


He's extremely efficient though...more than ever, at near 63% TS%, and he's scoring an all time high per game at over 28, with over 8 assists. I'm not sure how much people expect.

True, I just wish he'd look to go off for huge scoring games now and then. He's definitely stepped it up all around, but I miss seeing those 40-50-60 point games every so often.
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Post#77 » by AtheJ415 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:49 am

Lol. Gave up a fast break layup going one on 2 off of a dead ball turnover because our team is just THAT lazy
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Post#78 » by SkyBill40 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:49 am

They're just killing us in the paint.
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Post#79 » by AtheJ415 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:52 am

SkyBill40 wrote:They're just killing us in the paint.


We don't have rim protection with Nurk and Metu. We need our perimeter guys to stay in front and they just don't seem to take enough pride in doing that
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Post#80 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:57 am

Defensive rebound was there for the taking and the smallest guy on the court Brunson secures it for a layup. We have such a lazy team, no guts or effort.

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