Booker Discussion, news and highlights

[lilfishi22]

Yeah, it's pretty stupid. All of those happened in the 70 pt game.

A good example of a bad use of stats

But it is an accurate use of stats.

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Accurate doesn't mean it's useful

Book is the first player in NBA history who's mother is a cosmetologist and played 1's against Danilo Gallinari at 12 years old to score 40, 50, 60 and 70pts while being born in the month of October and wearing the #1.

That is all factual and accurate but chucking a bunch of stats and facts together doesn't mean it's actually useful.

[cberry78]

A good example of a bad use of stats

But it is an accurate use of stats.

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Accurate doesn't mean it's useful

Book is the first player in NBA history who's mother is a cosmetologist and played 1's against Danilo Gallinari at 12 years old to score 40, 50, 60 and 70pts while being born in the month of October and wearing the #1.

That is all factual and accurate but chucking a bunch of stats and facts together doesn't mean it's actually useful.

I wasn't aware that stats had to be useful, especially during the dog days of the NBA off-season? Lol

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[matt131]

But it is an accurate use of stats.

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Accurate doesn't mean it's useful

Book is the first player in NBA history who's mother is a cosmetologist and played 1's against Danilo Gallinari at 12 years old to score 40, 50, 60 and 70pts while being born in the month of October and wearing the #1.

That is all factual and accurate but chucking a bunch of stats and facts together doesn't mean it's actually useful.

I wasn't aware that stats had to be useful, especially during the dog days of the NBA off-season? Lol

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Lol I think we are all forgetting that Xin is just a giant troll on Twitter. He does stuff for laughs.

Also, the original tweet that was talking about the youngest players to score a certain amount of points did fail to put who the youngest to score 70 was, which, in a tweet about that kind of stuff, seems to be fairly important.

[Ghost of Kleine]

The Xin tweet on Booker was really just a satirical distraction from the oversaturation of all these fruitless Durant hypotheses. Just a different topic of discussion for a mild distraction.

[Saberestar]

2022-23 First three games (2W-1L)

32 points, 5.3 assists and 3.3 boards per game shooting .531 , .529 on threes and .950 in FTs.

He is playing close to 40 mpg and never looks tired, his motor on both sides is crazy high so far this season.

I think he will be in the MVP race since the first month of the season and it will be well deserved.

[Saberestar]

[sunsbg]

2022-23 First three games (2W-1L)

32 points, 5.3 assists and 3.3 boards per game shooting .531 , .529 on threes and .950 in FTs.

He is playing close to 40 mpg and never looks tired, his motor on both sides is crazy high so far this season.

I think he will be in the MVP race since the first month of the season and it will be well deserved.

Doesn't matter until he hits a Gm7 winner in Luka's face.

[bwgood77]

2022-23 First three games (2W-1L)

32 points, 5.3 assists and 3.3 boards per game shooting .531 , .529 on threes and .950 in FTs.

He is playing close to 40 mpg and never looks tired, his motor on both sides is crazy high so far this season.

I think he will be in the MVP race since the first month of the season and it will be well deserved.

Guards will be brutal for All NBA. All of Luka, Ja, Lillard and Curry avg more points.

Steph with .500, 444 and 1.00
Ja with .542, .571, .844

Luka not very good from 3. Lillard pretty good from 3, but 11 attempts per game...Steph 12 attempts per game.

Luka 8 reb, Lillard and Curry 5.3. Ja only 3.

Steph 1.7 steals per game, Luka 1.5...the other 3 .7.

I think it's likely at least 2 of those teams end up with better records than the Suns as well, possibly 3, and Portland would be the one that didn't even though they are the undefeated team now...but who knows how good they could be. Seems like they used to always end up way better than I expected and Simons could take a major step this year, so if Grant and Nurkic stay healthy and Josh Hart does his thing, that's a pretty solid starting lineup.

They have a weak bench though and may be dependent on if and how much Shaedon Sharpe and Nassir Little improve. They have those 2 and Simons still as young developing players. Winslow always seems up and down, though usually down.

It will be interesting to see if Book can keep up high %s this year. Last year his 3pt % started out really strong but faded (even though I think it still ended up his best ever) but his TS% dropped quite a bit from 2 years ago.

[lilfishi22]

I can't see Book in the running for MVP. He just doesn't do enough for his team and that's not a knock on him, it's just the team we've put together and the style we play. Luka is an easy favourite just because he puts up the numbers, is flashy and has a massive hand in everything the Mavs does. I also think after the playoffs last season, there's a bit of a stain on Book's reputation while the opposite can be said about Luka

[bwgood77]

I can't see Book in the running for MVP. He just doesn't do enough for his team and that's not a knock on him, it's just the team we've put together and the style we play. Luka is an easy favourite just because he puts up the numbers, is flashy and has a massive hand in everything the Mavs does. I also think after the playoffs last season, there's a bit of a stain on Book's reputation while the opposite can be said about Luka

Do you think if the Blazers surprisingly finished with a top 4 seed, Lillard would have a chance?

[Mulhollanddrive]

Booker looks better this season and he finished 4th last season.

[bwgood77]

Booker looks better this season and he finished 4th last season.

I think there is a good chance he will be too but I think he was 4th in large part because we had the best record in the NBA, and it also obviously helped that Paul got injured and was out for awhile because he was ranked 4th in the MVP race and Booker around 9th until he got injured and Booker slowly moved up.

If we can finish with a top 2-3 seed he can be very high again though for the same reasons if he's better especially because Paul obviously won't be in the running at all. But there are also more players that are back for full seasons that will be competing for it to some degree (Kawhi, Lillard, KD and to a lesser extent George and Kyrie). Steph missed a lot of time last year too which took him out of the running.

[lilfishi22]

I can't see Book in the running for MVP. He just doesn't do enough for his team and that's not a knock on him, it's just the team we've put together and the style we play. Luka is an easy favourite just because he puts up the numbers, is flashy and has a massive hand in everything the Mavs does. I also think after the playoffs last season, there's a bit of a stain on Book's reputation while the opposite can be said about Luka

Do you think if the Blazers surprisingly finished with a top 4 seed, Lillard would have a chance?

He could but it'll be a stretch. All of the awards have a large component of narrative driven votes. With most punters not seeing the Blazers as a contender, if Dame is able to take his team into a home court position, at least in the first round of the playoffs, I think that could be huge for his narrative.

Ultimately, it usually is a 2 dog race. In rare situations it's 3 but unless you're firmly in the #1 or #2 spot at the end of the regular season, it's hard to win it. I think he has to beat out guys like Ja, Luka, Giannis, Jokic and Embiid.

[Saberestar]

2022-23 First three games (2W-1L)

32 points, 5.3 assists and 3.3 boards per game shooting .531 , .529 on threes and .950 in FTs.

He is playing close to 40 mpg and never looks tired, his motor on both sides is crazy high so far this season.

I think he will be in the MVP race since the first month of the season and it will be well deserved.

Guards will be brutal for All NBA. All of Luka, Ja, Lillard and Curry avg more points.

Steph with .500, 444 and 1.00
Ja with .542, .571, .844

Luka not very good from 3. Lillard pretty good from 3, but 11 attempts per game...Steph 12 attempts per game.

Luka 8 reb, Lillard and Curry 5.3. Ja only 3.

Steph 1.7 steals per game, Luka 1.5...the other 3 .7.

I think it's likely at least 2 of those teams end up with better records than the Suns as well, possibly 3, and Portland would be the one that didn't even though they are the undefeated team now...but who knows how good they could be. Seems like they used to always end up way better than I expected and Simons could take a major step this year, so if Grant and Nurkic stay healthy and Josh Hart does his thing, that's a pretty solid starting lineup.

They have a weak bench though and may be dependent on if and how much Shaedon Sharpe and Nassir Little improve. They have those 2 and Simons still as young developing players. Winslow always seems up and down, though usually down.

It will be interesting to see if Book can keep up high %s this year. Last year his 3pt % started out really strong but faded (even though I think it still ended up his best ever) but his TS% dropped quite a bit from 2 years ago.

Yeah, there is a lot of competition but Book is there in that selected group.

It's a long season, it's gonna be an interesting individual race.

[dmastro32]

2022-23 First three games (2W-1L)

32 points, 5.3 assists and 3.3 boards per game shooting .531 , .529 on threes and .950 in FTs.

He is playing close to 40 mpg and never looks tired, his motor on both sides is crazy high so far this season.

I think he will be in the MVP race since the first month of the season and it will be well deserved.

Guards will be brutal for All NBA. All of Luka, Ja, Lillard and Curry avg more points.

Steph with .500, 444 and 1.00
Ja with .542, .571, .844

Luka not very good from 3. Lillard pretty good from 3, but 11 attempts per game...Steph 12 attempts per game.

Luka 8 reb, Lillard and Curry 5.3. Ja only 3.

Steph 1.7 steals per game, Luka 1.5...the other 3 .7.

I think it's likely at least 2 of those teams end up with better records than the Suns as well, possibly 3, and Portland would be the one that didn't even though they are the undefeated team now...but who knows how good they could be. Seems like they used to always end up way better than I expected and Simons could take a major step this year, so if Grant and Nurkic stay healthy and Josh Hart does his thing, that's a pretty solid starting lineup.

They have a weak bench though and may be dependent on if and how much Shaedon Sharpe and Nassir Little improve. They have those 2 and Simons still as young developing players. Winslow always seems up and down, though usually down.

It will be interesting to see if Book can keep up high %s this year. Last year his 3pt % started out really strong but faded (even though I think it still ended up his best ever) but his TS% dropped quite a bit from 2 years ago.

Yeah, there is a lot of competition but Book is there in that selected group.

It's a long season, it's gonna be an interesting individual race.

The crazy part is Booker is the only one that is considered mostly a SG as the rest play majority of time at PG. to me really shows the drop off in true SG over the last 5 or 6 years.

[bwgood77]

Guards will be brutal for All NBA. All of Luka, Ja, Lillard and Curry avg more points.

Steph with .500, 444 and 1.00
Ja with .542, .571, .844

Luka not very good from 3. Lillard pretty good from 3, but 11 attempts per game...Steph 12 attempts per game.

Luka 8 reb, Lillard and Curry 5.3. Ja only 3.

Steph 1.7 steals per game, Luka 1.5...the other 3 .7.

I think it's likely at least 2 of those teams end up with better records than the Suns as well, possibly 3, and Portland would be the one that didn't even though they are the undefeated team now...but who knows how good they could be. Seems like they used to always end up way better than I expected and Simons could take a major step this year, so if Grant and Nurkic stay healthy and Josh Hart does his thing, that's a pretty solid starting lineup.

They have a weak bench though and may be dependent on if and how much Shaedon Sharpe and Nassir Little improve. They have those 2 and Simons still as young developing players. Winslow always seems up and down, though usually down.

It will be interesting to see if Book can keep up high %s this year. Last year his 3pt % started out really strong but faded (even though I think it still ended up his best ever) but his TS% dropped quite a bit from 2 years ago.

Yeah, there is a lot of competition but Book is there in that selected group.

It's a long season, it's gonna be an interesting individual race.

The crazy part is Booker is the only one that is considered mostly a SG as the rest play majority of time at PG. to me really shows the drop off in true SG over the last 5 or 6 years.

A lot of PGs really play more of a SG type of role, and SGs are a lot of the stars and primary ball handlers. Kyrie is really a PG but he is more or less playing SG this season too with Simmons running point. Then you have Harden playing PG, but what does that make Maxey, a SG I guess if you want to go strictly by traditional positions. Mitchell/Garland and Trae/Murray both basically are combo guards.

Jamal Murray plays more of a SG since Jokic basically runs the point as a C.

JeVon Carter is a PG, but really he is playing more of a SG while Giannis plays point a lot as does Jrue, who plays a lot of SG himself.

I think traditional positions are really outdated.

[Saberestar]

Monty Williams said Devin Booker is probably the most complete player in the league right now.

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Devin Booker has the highest plus-minus this season, at +63.

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[Frank Lee]

Book has a better chance at the scoring title

[bwgood77]

Monty Williams said Devin Booker is probably the most complete player in the league right now.

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Devin Booker has the highest plus-minus this season, at +63.

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Seems like he said similar stuff up there. He's definitely up there now. A lot of guys up there though....but for his age he may be outside of maybe Luka.

[Qwigglez]

I did not realize Luka was actually shooting well this season. 50% from the field and 87% from the line while averaging 35 points per game. Booker needs to up his rebounds if he wants to be in the top 3 MVP class this season. Also, Suns will have to finish top 3.