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Son of Ra wrote:

bwgood77 wrote:It's amazing how talent trumps what you have done in the past. Kobe (raping is worse than beating, whether or not you didn't "think you were raping"...and he admitted she thought different than he did)...it gets settled out of court. And he's an icon. Ray Lewis very likely killed someone...and is a legend. Now I hate Kobe for that abhorrent behavior, and one time being caught probably means it happened often. Anyway, would I say I don't want Kobe or Ray Lewis on my team? If they are going to improve the on court product, that is what I am a fan of. He's an exciting player too. MIke Tyson too....he was in movies after raping someone, though of course he had been in prison, and also beat the crap out of his wife...I think said it was the hardest punch he's ever thrown.

These guys are entitled....and most are respectful, but I imagine it happens a lot. Doesn't excuse anything, but Kidd was another example. I know Colangelo traded him for Marbury, which shows he wasn't about it, but then again the Nets went from an ok team to a finals team with the trade, and Marbury made us far worse than Kidd. Imagine if we had Kidd in the first few years of Amare with Marion and JJ.

Doesn't excuse anything yet you're doing just that?

Your reply is basically "aww, shucks, that's how it's always been, guess there's nothing you can do about it".

Some of you need to take a good look in the mirror. That includes everyone debating whether his skillet justifies overlooking his actions. I'm not even taking prime **** Karl Malone for free. This is a hobby, a past time and even if it weren't morality shouldn't change...
I'm not trying to play moral police here but this stuff isn't even debatable.

I'm not engaging in this conversation anymore but I'm genuinely shocked that this is apparently ok for so many in 2024. Looks like the male psyche is still stuck in he 50s.

NapoleonII wrote:

Son of Ra wrote:

bwgood77 wrote:It's amazing how talent trumps what you have done in the past. Kobe (raping is worse than beating, whether or not you didn't "think you were raping"...and he admitted she thought different than he did)...it gets settled out of court. And he's an icon. Ray Lewis very likely killed someone...and is a legend. Now I hate Kobe for that abhorrent behavior, and one time being caught probably means it happened often. Anyway, would I say I don't want Kobe or Ray Lewis on my team? If they are going to improve the on court product, that is what I am a fan of. He's an exciting player too. MIke Tyson too....he was in movies after raping someone, though of course he had been in prison, and also beat the crap out of his wife...I think said it was the hardest punch he's ever thrown.

These guys are entitled....and most are respectful, but I imagine it happens a lot. Doesn't excuse anything, but Kidd was another example. I know Colangelo traded him for Marbury, which shows he wasn't about it, but then again the Nets went from an ok team to a finals team with the trade, and Marbury made us far worse than Kidd. Imagine if we had Kidd in the first few years of Amare with Marion and JJ.

Doesn't excuse anything yet you're doing just that?

Your reply is basically "aww, shucks, that's how it's always been, guess there's nothing you can do about it".

Some of you need to take a good look in the mirror. That includes everyone debating whether his skillet justifies overlooking his actions. I'm not even taking prime **** Karl Malone for free. This is a hobby, a past time and even if it weren't morality shouldn't change...
I'm not trying to play moral police here but this stuff isn't even debatable.

I'm not engaging in this conversation anymore but I'm genuinely shocked that this is apparently ok for so many in 2024. Looks like the male psyche is still stuck in he 50s.

Yup.

I get the reasoning, but reasoning only goes so far in discussions like this.

It’s also worth nothing that those cases were 20+ years ago - the world has changed, and not entirely for the worst.

Also - it’s completely free to say that all those guys were wrong, too. And to have higher standards than you did yesterday.

Qwigglez wrote:So when it comes to Miles Bridges, if the Suns end up getting him, I can't do anything about it as a fan except just stop watching the Suns to show that I do not support that behavior and that type of player on my team. The thing here is the guy served his suspension by the league, and some championship caliber team will likely get him for a very cheap trade. If it ends up being the Suns, I will still watch the team and root for them.

Qwigglez wrote:So when it comes to Miles Bridges, if the Suns end up getting him, I can't do anything about it as a fan except just stop watching the Suns to show that I do not support that behavior and that type of player on my team. The thing here is the guy served his suspension by the league, and some championship caliber team will likely get him for a very cheap trade. If it ends up being the Suns, I will still watch the team and root for them.

kennydorglas wrote:Imagine caring about off-field stuff in **** sports.

Stix wrote:

kennydorglas wrote:Imagine caring about off-field stuff in **** sports.

Right? If only we knew everything about our co-workers... a lot of you would be out of a job because you refuse to "support" their behavior.

Stix wrote:

kennydorglas wrote:Imagine caring about off-field stuff in **** sports.

Right? If only we knew everything about our co-workers... a lot of you would be out of a job because you refuse to "support" their behavior.

Fo-Real wrote:

Stix wrote:

kennydorglas wrote:Imagine caring about off-field stuff in **** sports.

Right? If only we knew everything about our co-workers... a lot of you would be out of a job because you refuse to "support" their behavior.

I'll bet that bastard hates puppies too!!! I can't support this team with a puppy hater on it. What's that S.O.B'S stance on abortin?!?!?!

Stix wrote:

Fo-Real wrote:

Stix wrote:
Right? If only we knew everything about our co-workers... a lot of you would be out of a job because you refuse to "support" their behavior.

I'll bet that bastard hates puppies too!!! I can't support this team with a puppy hater on it. What's that S.O.B'S stance on abortin?!?!?!

Let's leave Micheal Vick out of this. God forbid anyone gives him any second chances.

lilfishi22 wrote:

Saberestar wrote:

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I will never not see Bridges as who he is which is a wife beater, domestic abuser and all-round disgusting human being

But I kind of agree with EJ

Stix wrote:

kennydorglas wrote:Imagine caring about off-field stuff in **** sports.

Right? If only we knew everything about our co-workers... a lot of you would be out of a job because you refuse to "support" their behavior.

kennydorglas wrote:

Stix wrote:

kennydorglas wrote:Imagine caring about off-field stuff in **** sports.

Right? If only we knew everything about our co-workers... a lot of you would be out of a job because you refuse to "support" their behavior.

Sports is just modern day Coliseum.
If NBA allows Miles Bridges to still play, why in the hell people cares if he's a psycho or not.

ps: most nba players are actually like that, its what gives them the competitive edge in sports...
but I guess mostly here aint ready for this conversation.

Golanator wrote:

Qwigglez wrote:So when it comes to Miles Bridges, if the Suns end up getting him, I can't do anything about it as a fan except just stop watching the Suns to show that I do not support that behavior and that type of player on my team. The thing here is the guy served his suspension by the league, and some championship caliber team will likely get him for a very cheap trade. If it ends up being the Suns, I will still watch the team and root for them.

Of course, I will too. I won't like rooting for Bridges but at the end of the day I'll be rooting for the Suns to win regardless. Doesn't mean I wouldn't prefer us to trade for someone else in his place, like Royce O'Neal or Dorian Finney Smith or anyone else that doesn't beat the **** out of women.

I imagine most Suns fans are in the same position we are. It's uncomfortable and gross. The good news, if it happens, is that he'll be gone in 30-something games because we won't have his bird rights.

Stix wrote:Also...
Landry Shamet last year was 37.7% from 3pt. Chris Paul 37.5%.

Brad Beal this year from 3... 34.7%.

Also about flexility from the Beal trade...
Its a lot easier to trade Paul at basically an expiring 30mil (last year is non-guaranteed) and Shamet at 9mil than it is to trade Mr. Glass and his street clothes at $46+mil (increasing every year - WITH A NO TRADE CLAUSE) for 4 years, is it not?