King4Day wrote:Qwigglez wrote:This was a humorous but accurate breakdown.
He's not wrong. Question is, is this a coaching issue or personnel issue? If it's personnel, this will be a busy offseason.
One is more or less the causality of the other unfortunately man! What I mean in saying this is that we waited until most all other coaching candidats were off the board (inexperience and indecisiveness by our front office or just bad timing in the new ownership acquisition process)?? And then settled on Vogel for his defensive acumen, and recently established championship pedigree/ dealing with superstar egos like Lebron James, etc. BUT the primary selling point was that he'd transform Ayton defensively into a defensive anchor for our proposed offdensive juggernaut team similarly to what he did for Roy Hibbert, myles Turner, etc. But then shortly after committing to that path, our front office quickly turned heel and traded Ayton, and then compounded the mistake by only adding bottom tier garbage time offensive oriented players with absolutely no defensive ability/aptitude whatsoever!!! We did this when there were actually numerous reasonably decent defensive options still unsigned available.
So basically, we hired a defensive coach, and then gave him 3 offense oriented oft injured, aging mentally inconsistent superstars, and further compounded the issues by filling out the roster depth with low end bottom tier one way offensive garbage time players and told him to somehow miraculously tuurn them (for the first time in their careers) into lockdown defensive two way contributors that'll also drastically outplay their long established bottom tier value. Nothing here adds up to any legitimate pathway for success or sustainability! Honestly it reeks of very poor planning/lack of planning altogether, lack of sustainable vision, inexperience and overall impulsive ego driven decisions without any reflection on the glaring consequences. So basically,
Step 1- Hire defensive coach to transform our franchise center.
Step 2Promptly trade our franchise center (that we hired Vogel to work with defensively).
Step 3Fill out our depth around our very injury prone, inconsistent and mentally/physically passive big three with the very cheapest low end scrub offensive players that barely play meaningful minutes. And none with any defensive ability whatsoever.
Step 4Overpay Kevin Young because Booker likes him, but then direct no accountability to him as our offense glaringly sucks for the entire season despite having three
ELITE OFFENSIVE SUPERSTARS!!! and a roster of offense oriented players.
Step 5Further compound these horrific decisions by letting James Jones do what we he does best!! carelessly give away all of our assets in an reactionary attempt to correct the horrible hodgepodge,patchwork roster building decisions by Jones himself! So typical for him, he'd put together a horrible bench roster that's the exact opposite of the defensive coach we hired, then he happily gives away every last asset that we have (meaning he won't have to be responsible for actually scouting/ drafting anyone now) as fast as he can just to add a defensive player to the roster hindsight severely lacking. Again when there were numerous available defensive options that also had physical and athletic attributes. Many of which I even had lists for AND had previous experience with Vogel too.
Sure Vogel isn't a great coach, and he's got a soft affable demeanor from dealing with superstar egos etc. But he was always gonna be a "lame duck" coach (scapegoat) for our failures under these laughably poor decisions by our inept, impulsive front office. But these issues clearly speak to far more troubling and significant issues beyond the coaching inadequacies. This soft, finesse, mentally weak, goody goody culture/image as well as prioritizing coaches with the same mentality has made this franchise very soft and mentally weak/fragile. We lack the toughness, fire and grit to be truly competitive in physically demanding competition. For us to become the legit contenders that we're pretending to be, we need a full culture change from our soft mentally weak players, our soft spoken "player friendly" non confrontational coach to our do nothing, grifter GM that rather give away assets than be responsible from identifying value or developing talent.
The scariest part of all this could be if this is somehow diabolical intentional self sabotage by Ishbia so that he can validate bringing in his own front office (as planned all along)..................
New coach- Tom Izzo (Michigan).
New Gm- Isaiah Thomas (Detroit).
New full time Pres of basketball ops- James Jones.
Maybe trade KD (after a very disappointing outcome) to a desperate GS for Draymond Green/ fillers/picks??? endorsed by Thomas so he can try and reinvent the Pistons bad boy era culture?? Green and Wiggins might work, and you just know that Golden State is desperate enough to do that deal. I will say though that Tom Izzo is a no BS coach that demands hard work, physical play and accountability. So that's not too bad everything considered.