Why is Randy Couture Regarded as P4P Top 5, 10 the worst?

Cochulito · Post #1 » by **Cochulito** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:48 am

I dont watch mma at all, just a fight here and there. But i'd like to know why he is so highly regarded. He has 8 losses. .500 winning Percentage and other than his last two straight wins, his career on paper has has been win loss win loss win loss... So can a mma fan explain this to me?

cowboyronnie · Post #2 » by **cowboyronnie** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:31 pm

He's shown such ridiculous improvement, in skill and in strategy, that he's always a step ahead of his record - a step ahead of his performance in his last fight.

His tactics against Sylvia were perfect, for example. And, as a wrestler, he's managed to improve his striking to the point where he can stand with serious kickboxers (Rizzo, Liddell, etc.).

He now has the best team in the world, quite possibly.

I don't think he's top 5 P4P, though. I don't think anyone does.

Cammo101 · Post #3 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:23 pm

Couture's record is misleading. He is a guy who has fought the best fighters in the world over and over again. Unlike a lot of the new fighters, he has no cupcakes on his resume. Couture fought Chuck 3 times, Vitor twice, Tito, Barnett, Rizzo twice, Sylvia...just to name a few. Very few fighters would have as good a record as Couture considering the caliber of fighter he has fought from day 1.

Post #4 » by **CPT** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:35 pm

A) I don't think many people consider him top 5 P4P. Top 10? Maybe. Top 5 HW? Probably. But I haven't heard many people talk about him as top 5 P4P. So let's just get that out of the way.

B) People rate him highly because he comes across as a pretty likable guy (I think he's being kind of a douche at the moment though), is a great story, and he's won 5 championships in two weight classes.

C) 16-8 is not a great record, but it's not .500 either. I don't know if you did that intentionally or not, but that's pretty dumb.

SpReEfOrAlL · Post #5 » by **SpReEfOrAlL** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:34 am

Randy is a B level fighter. As overrated as they come.

Cammo101 · Post #6 » by **Cammo101** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:36 pm

Couture is far from overrated. He is 16-8 with as tough a record of fights as anyone in MMA. He has no cupcakes on his record, similar to Tito, which is why his record also is not great at first glance.

Vik Rude · Post #7 » by **Vik Rude** » Tue Jul 1, 2008 8:05 am

I don't think he's P4P Top5 but he is a pretty amazing fighter. The only UFC fighter to hold 2 different belts in 2 different divisions, that should say something about his all around skill. Plus he beat Chuck Liddell which is pretty impressive.