UFC 251 Fight Island: Masvidal v. Usman

Dupp · Post #121 » by **Dupp** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:52 am

Eh that sucks. Didn’t want max to win but thought he easily deserved that win.

aggerrard · Post #122 » by **aggerrard** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:52 am

And now we will hear the mob call it a robbery. 3-2 Volk is reasonable.

Amare_1_Knicks · Post #123 » by **Amare_1_Knicks** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:53 am

I had Holloway winning. He returned all the leg kicks, dropped him in two rounds, won at least one other round (IMO) and controlled the center of the octagon. He got right back up after every takedown as well.

aggerrard · Post #124 » by **aggerrard** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:54 am

Dupp wrote:Definitely didn’t think it was as close as a lot of you guys. Besides the last round I thought Holloway controlled the whole fight. Owned the centre the whole time.

Octagon control only counts IF you can't decide a winner from striking and grappling.

heatwillbeback · Post #125 » by **heatwillbeback** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:54 am

aggerrard wrote:And now we will hear the mob call it a robbery. 3-2 Volk is reasonable.

3-2 either way was reasonable.

It would be a fight that deserves a rematch, if it wasn't already a rematch.

Post #126 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:54 am

aggerrard wrote:And now we will hear the mob call it a robbery. 3-2 Volk is reasonable.

Ya I could see the tossup for round 3. Thought 1,2 was clearly Max, 4,5 was clearly Volk. Also thought Volk did more damage in the 3rd. Definitely a close fight, but I saw it 3-2 Volk and thought it was definitely a reasonable call.

Captain_Caveman · Post #127 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:55 am

Round 3 was a tossup, but Max probably had it.

Still, I'd be heated if I lost my belt like that. Tie goes to the champ.

Post #128 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:56 am

Really hope we dont see Usman vs Woodley 2.0 right now. I have a feeling we will. I think Usman gets a little taste of Jorge's stand up and its a grit and grind 5 round decision for Usman.

Captain_Caveman · Post #129 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:56 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
aggerrard wrote:And now we will hear the mob call it a robbery. 3-2 Volk is reasonable.

Ya I could see the tossup for round 3. Thought 1,2 was clearly Max, 4,5 was clearly Volk. Also thought Volk did more damage in the 3rd. Definitely a close fight, but I saw it 3-2 Volk and thought it was definitely a reasonable call.

Yeah, exactly. Rounds 1-2 100% Max, Rounds 4-5 100% Volk.

Round 3 was basically a draw, which should go to the champ every time, IMO.

Dupp · Post #130 » by **Dupp** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:56 am

aggerrard wrote:
Dupp wrote:Definitely didn’t think it was as close as a lot of you guys. Besides the last round I thought Holloway controlled the whole fight. Owned the centre the whole time.

Octagon control only counts IF you can't decide a winner from striking and grappling.

Yeah I know. I still though max controlled everything before the 5th.

I thought max beat him easily even if 3-2. 4th was a tossup but thought max controlled. First two he dominated and I thought he won the 3rd.

Jasen777 · Post #131 » by **Jasen777** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:57 am

Dupp wrote:Eh that sucks. Didn’t want max to win but thought he easily deserved that win.

This is way I don't like quick title rematches. Close fight. Suppose Holloway got the nod. We'd have to have a third fight or it'd be unfair to Volkanovski (since he won the first one).

Jasen777 · Post #132 » by **Jasen777** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:57 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Really hope we dont see Usman vs Woodley 2.0 right now. I have a feeling we will. I think Usman gets a little taste of Jorge's stand up and its a grit and grind 5 round decision for Usman.

Woodley is a ways away from a title shot, IMO.

dballislife · Post #133 » by **dballislife** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:58 am

super close fight but one guy turned it up a bit more after the first 2 rounds...max took first two and got confident and didnt keep the pressure and momentum and it swung, didnt swing by much but it swung

Post #134 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:59 am

Jasen777 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Really hope we dont see Usman vs Woodley 2.0 right now. I have a feeling we will. I think Usman gets a little taste of Jorge's stand up and its a grit and grind 5 round decision for Usman.

Woodley is a ways away from a title shot, IMO.

No Im not saying Woodley for a title shot (I think those days are long gone). Im talking about how the fight coming up right now is going to play out. I think Usman goes at it like he did the Woodley fight and just grit and grinds out a 5 round fight.

aggerrard · Post #135 » by **aggerrard** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:01 am

Dupp wrote:
aggerrard wrote:
Dupp wrote:Definitely didn’t think it was as close as a lot of you guys. Besides the last round I thought Holloway controlled the whole fight. Owned the centre the whole time.

Octagon control only counts IF you can't decide a winner from striking and grappling.

Yeah I know. I still though max controlled everything before the 5th.

I thought max beat him easily even if 3-2. 4th was a tossup but thought max controlled. First two he dominated and I thought he won the 3rd.

That's totally fair - i had both 3rd and 4th as close rounds, 3-2 either way and even 4-1 Holloway, but i'm not against Volk winning the last 3 rounds. I know you can't just take the numbers and base it on that - but Volk outlanded Max in all three rounds - 3, 4 and 5.

aggerrard · Post #136 » by **aggerrard** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:02 am

Jasen777 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Really hope we dont see Usman vs Woodley 2.0 right now. I have a feeling we will. I think Usman gets a little taste of Jorge's stand up and its a grit and grind 5 round decision for Usman.

Woodley is a ways away from a title shot, IMO.

Yea, Woodley is 3-4 wins away from a title shot. Lost 10 rounds in a row.

Dupp · Post #137 » by **Dupp** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:02 am

Oh well onto the next one. Go Jorge

Jasen777 · Post #138 » by **Jasen777** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:03 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Im talking about how the fight coming up right now is going to play out. I think Usman goes at it like he did the Woodley fight and just grit and grinds out a 5 round fight.

My bad. I think Usman wins, but Masvidal should be more active than Woodley was.

Jasen777 · Post #139 » by **Jasen777** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:04 am

And MMAdecisions is down...

Post #140 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:04 am

Jasen777 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Im talking about how the fight coming up right now is going to play out. I think Usman goes at it like he did the Woodley fight and just grit and grinds out a 5 round fight.

My bad. I think Usman wins, but Masvidal should be more active than Woodley was.

Agreed on both counts.