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2024 NBA Draft (euro season, college season, scouting, prospects etc)

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Post#401 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue May 14, 2024 2:01 pm

I don’t think it happens but if Topic falls and is there at 14 you take him and run even if he is slated to miss 24/25.
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Post#402 » by Pattycakes » Tue May 14, 2024 3:34 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I don’t think it happens but if Topic falls and is there at 14 you take him and run even if he is slated to miss 24/25.



Well yes of course but they’re talking that he’ll be full strength for all pre draft activity..?
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Post#403 » by Norm2953 » Tue May 14, 2024 4:01 pm

He likely goes fourth to SA if he's not hurt, for they could afford to gamble on health with
another pick at 8
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Post#404 » by cdubbz » Tue May 14, 2024 4:05 pm

The bronny james situation is interesting to me. No one knows LBJs intentions, but. there are a lot of teams late in the first round and early 2nd round that could gamble on the pick and a chance at LBJ.

Cavaliers have the 20th pick - seems too high especially to waste when they are a playoff team.
Knicks have back to back picks 24/25.
Wolves at 27 - Would consider if it meant LBJ and it would make them an even stronger contender instantly.
Celtics at 30 would be hilarious.
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Post#405 » by cdubbz » Tue May 14, 2024 4:13 pm

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Post#406 » by Blazinaway » Tue May 14, 2024 4:21 pm

Topic injury a "sprained knee", so not too bad, likely won't affect drat status much if at all
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Post#407 » by Blazinaway » Tue May 14, 2024 4:23 pm

If Castle measures at least 6"5 ish w/o shoes I am liking him a lot for a 7 pick, he shot VERY well from 3 yesterday at combine, he's a dog on D
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Post#408 » by cdubbz » Tue May 14, 2024 5:15 pm

Blazinaway wrote:If Castle measures at least 6"5 ish w/o shoes I am liking him a lot for a 7 pick, he shot VERY well from 3 yesterday at combine, he's a dog on D


Castle was listed at 6'2.25 inches.

I like Castle for his hustle and defense. Shot is iffy in games, but good to know he shot well in the combine. It's always nice to have lengthy guards, but if he has the dog in him and can play tough defense there will always be a spot for 6'2-6'3 guards on a roster.
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Post#409 » by Blazinaway » Tue May 14, 2024 5:22 pm

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Blazinaway wrote:If Castle measures at least 6"5 ish w/o shoes I am liking him a lot for a 7 pick, he shot VERY well from 3 yesterday at combine, he's a dog on D


Castle was listed at 6'2.25 inches.

I like Castle for his hustle and defense. Shot is iffy in games, but good to know he shot well in the combine. It's always nice to have lengthy guards, but if he has the dog in him and can play tough defense there will always be a spot for 6'2-6'3 guards on a roster.


Yes, he was "mistakenly" listed at that lower height and NBA took it down, it was someone else's measurements. We are awaiting the corrected results. my guess is he is close to he Uconn listed numbers, so 6'5 "ish" without shoes.
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Post#410 » by Walton1one » Tue May 14, 2024 6:48 pm

Blazinaway wrote:If Castle measures at least 6"5 ish w/o shoes I am liking him a lot for a 7 pick, he shot VERY well from 3 yesterday at combine, he's a dog on D


I agree, although I don't think he will be there unfortunately. Curious to see what his measurements come in at, if he is somewhere near 6'5-6'6 or so, he could be one of those players who can swing b\t PG\SG\SF, and becomes very interesting for POR, especially if they project that his shot will come around to league average or better. IMO he should definitely be in consideration if he falls to #7. I'd take him before Cody Williams and definitely before Clingan\Knecht\etc...

Risacher\Buzelis\Castle\Holland. Not sure how I would rank those 4, though I think all 4 or 3 will be gone by the time #7 rolls around. Best case scenario POR has a choice b\t 2 of Buzelis\Holland, Castle\Holland or Castle\Buzelis.
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Post#411 » by Walton1one » Tue May 14, 2024 6:57 pm

Correct measurements came in for Castle...

Castle measures 6’5.5”, 6’9” wingspan, 210 pounds officially.
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Post#412 » by Blazinaway » Tue May 14, 2024 7:23 pm

Walton1one wrote:Correct measurements came in for Castle...

Castle measures 6’5.5”, 6’9” wingspan, 210 pounds officially.


Comment from another board:

"Similar measurements to Jaime Jaquez, Cam Whitmore, Klay Thompson, Grant Williams, DeMar DeRozan, Miles Bridges, Devin Vassell.

Plenty of guys who have played a lot of forward."
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Post#413 » by GreenRiddler » Tue May 14, 2024 9:53 pm

Same standing reach as Jimmy Butler, 1 inch longer wingspan. And only 0.75 inches shorter than Jimmy. He’s totally in play based on these measurements at 7 on equal footing as Buze and Holland imo.

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Buze
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Holland
Cody
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Post#414 » by GreenRiddler » Tue May 14, 2024 9:58 pm

If Dalton is there at 14 and we have a non shooter in Holland or Castle that’s be a great combo to walk away from this with.
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Post#415 » by Dame Lizard » Tue May 14, 2024 10:31 pm

GreenRiddler wrote:Same standing reach as Jimmy Butler, 1 inch longer wingspan. And only 0.75 inches shorter than Jimmy. He’s totally in play based on these measurements at 7 on equal footing as Buze and Holland imo.

Right now:

Buze
Castle
Holland
Cody
I'm intrigued by Williams's offensive skillset and shooting, however his rebounding leaves a lot to be desired. No doubt that frame creates a big rebounding weakness (although Will Barton managed to do well in that category).
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Post#416 » by Pattycakes » Tue May 14, 2024 11:42 pm

GreenRiddler wrote:If Dalton is there at 14 and we have a non shooter in Holland or Castle that’s be a great combo to walk away from this with.


Holland and Knecht is a major get for us if possible. Knecht won’t fall that much tho
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Post#417 » by tester551 » Wed May 15, 2024 2:15 am

Dame Lizard wrote:
GreenRiddler wrote:Same standing reach as Jimmy Butler, 1 inch longer wingspan. And only 0.75 inches shorter than Jimmy. He’s totally in play based on these measurements at 7 on equal footing as Buze and Holland imo.

Right now:

Buze
Castle
Holland
Cody
I'm intrigued by Williams's offensive skillset and shooting, however his rebounding leaves a lot to be desired. No doubt that frame creates a big rebounding weakness (although Will Barton managed to do well in that category).

Hustle & aggression (or lack thereof) is a bigger factor IMO. That usually doesn't change by just adding more weight.

It's why Hart can rebound, but Grant can't
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Post#418 » by Blazinaway » Wed May 15, 2024 2:23 am

tester551 wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote:
GreenRiddler wrote:Same standing reach as Jimmy Butler, 1 inch longer wingspan. And only 0.75 inches shorter than Jimmy. He’s totally in play based on these measurements at 7 on equal footing as Buze and Holland imo.

Right now:

Buze
Castle
Holland
Cody
I'm intrigued by Williams's offensive skillset and shooting, however his rebounding leaves a lot to be desired. No doubt that frame creates a big rebounding weakness (although Will Barton managed to do well in that category).

Hustle & aggression (or lack thereof) is a bigger factor IMO. That usually doesn't change by just adding more weight.

It's why Hart can rebound, but Grant can't

I think it's more "desire" why Hart can rebound and Grant can't. Hart is just dogged and determined; Grans just does not care much and does not want to mix it up
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Post#419 » by TheDraftGuy » Wed May 15, 2024 3:55 am

Dame Lizard wrote:I'm intrigued by Williams's offensive skillset and shooting, however his rebounding leaves a lot to be desired. No doubt that frame creates a big rebounding weakness (although Will Barton managed to do well in that category).


He is too skinny, at this point, and his handles need to be tightened so he can actually get inside more often to bang down low.

But if you listen to his interviews, he is one of the smarter players in the draft and can likely work on it as he adds weight.

Ex:

For now, however, his ability to attack and shoot threes while being a capable defender should make him Jerami Grant-like.

In that way, you have to expect Cody Williams to be a better version of Jerami Grant, as his near ceiling, where he is capable of attacking the rim, running the fast break, and shooting from three and make plays every now and then (he's a more willing passer than Grant and has better vision) but doesn't have the ability to rebound or dominate due to lacking aggression.

But if he improves at his weaknesses, that Jerami Grant comp gets mixed with Paul George as his ceiling.

It's also that this type of player is more surefire than people think. Lot of the Grant, Butler, Kawhi, PG-13 types fall because people always say something to the effect of "well rounded game, good skills and tools, but not great at any particular trait. Not as athletic as we'd like and his handles exist but needs to improve. Does well on defense."

You can look back at their draft reports and it's almost always the same story. If they're all-around, have a reliable jumper to space the floor (whether mid range or three ball), play defense, and have existent handles, it's a safe bet with high potential.
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Post#420 » by Goldbum » Wed May 15, 2024 6:40 pm

One of Risacher, Castle, Buzelis or Holland should be there at 7 we just need either 2 guards or 1 guard and Clingan to get picked ahead of us along with Sarr. If not I'm okay with Williams but it's going to be a long time before he really contributes. Holland + Salaun/Ware or Smith s÷ms the most likely combo. I think Holland + Salaun could be a gome run in 2 years.
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