Summer League discussion, Classic & Vegas

Post #21 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:16 am

blind prophet wrote:Jones needs some development running the offense if that is what they want him to do in some instances. But that sort of thing should get better with time/practice.

What he did show was change of pace, some patience and utility when attacking the basket. Those sort of things playing off Sabonis may be some gold in the pocket here.

Jones looks like he belongs and can play.

Post #22 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:19 am

Keegan looses him man on a baseline cut for an uncontested layup and Louks immediately calls timeout. LOL love it. Keegan stormed to the bench looking frustrated with himself. Somewhere Coach Brown is yelling

Post #23 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:22 am

Slawson can go ahead and burn the tape

Post #24 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:24 am

OK Slawson hell of a board

OxAndFox · Post #25 » by **OxAndFox** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:24 am

City of Trees wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:
blind prophet wrote:
Ford looks pretty good so far. Was hoping we can find a budget point guard this summer. Maybe?

I mean at this point I think I would let PJ go and sign Ford to a min contract and use the small amount left on a defensive 5 like Biyombo.
My preference is the wise old vet as your 3rd PG

That was my preference initially too. Replicate the Delly spot. Just think Ford can handle that spot pretty well and is able to play the way the coaching staff wants him to.

LightTheBeam · Post #26 » by **LightTheBeam** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:30 am

Watched the first half, colby had some moments. High IQ guy, excited for him!

My take as of now is he's replacing delly and duarte replacing TD.

OxAndFox · Post #27 » by **OxAndFox** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:38 am

LightTheBeam wrote:Watched the first half, colby had some moments. High IQ guy, excited for him!

My take as of now is he's replacing delly and duarte replacing TD.

So do you have:
Fox/Davion/Jones
Huerter/Monk/Duarte
Keegan/Edwards/?
Barnes/Vezenkov/Lyles
Sabonis/Len/?

Don't think the coaching staff/FO care about the positions TBH, they're building a roster with as much playmaking as possible regardless of traditional positions.

blind prophet · Post #28 » by **blind prophet** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:52 am

For those who didn't watch the game Matt Barnes mentioned he was going to try and do more play by play. That's great news on an entertainment level, we need to change it up some.

Post #29 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:57 am

That Tre Mann dunk was nasty

blind prophet · Post #30 » by **blind prophet** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 4:00 am

City of Trees wrote:
blind prophet wrote:What's up with Ellis' hair?

Reminds me of a few things.

1. An OG on a $20 dollar bill like from the Whig party
2. An extra in a zombie movie, Night of the Living Dead
3. A well used custodial mop

Scary/intimidating however.
Is he bald on top???

Has the look of the road kill missing a tad of fur.

blind prophet · Post #31 » by **blind prophet** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 4:10 am

City of Trees wrote:
blind prophet wrote:Jones needs some development running the offense if that is what they want him to do in some instances. But that sort of thing should get better with time/practice.

What he did show was change of pace, some patience and utility when attacking the basket. Those sort of things playing off Sabonis may be some gold in the pocket here.
Jones looks like he belongs and can play.

I'd imagine his ball handling & play making peculiarities tonight are in part of new guys, learning the ropes and things like that some. But he should get better with that if they want him to do some of it.

But yeah, imagine him getting the ball from Sabonis and other rotations going on, he looks like he should be able to make decent decisions.

So he does have some basketball IQ for sure.

blind prophet · Post #32 » by **blind prophet** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 4:11 am

City of Trees wrote:Queta still has a **** ton of wasted movement in his game.

He is moving laterally better.

But still a project for sure.

Post #33 » by **codydaze** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 4:57 am

I still don't like the idea of slotting Colby into the third PG slot, would much rather get a vet there. He's got some point guard skills that he can develop but counting on him to be in the depth chart as a PG (obviously not saying that's the only spot he'd play) wouldn't be putting him in the best position to succeed.

LightTheBeam · Post #34 » by **LightTheBeam** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 5:14 am

OxAndFox wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:Watched the first half, colby had some moments. High IQ guy, excited for him!

My take as of now is he's replacing delly and duarte replacing TD.

So do you have:
Fox/Davion/Jones
Huerter/Monk/Duarte
Keegan/Edwards/?
Barnes/Vezenkov/Lyles
Sabonis/Len/?

Don't think the coaching staff/FO care about the positions TBH, they're building a roster with as much playmaking as possible regardless of traditional positions.

Probably more like

Fox/Davion/Jones
Huerter/Monk/Duarte
Keegan/Sasha/Edwards
Barnes//Lyles
Sabonis/Len/Queta

But like you got at, it's fluid.

Fox 1
Mitchell 1/2
Colby 1/2
Monk 2/3
Huerter 2/3
Duarte 2/3
Keegan 3/4
Barnes 3/4
Sasha 3/4
Edwards 2/3/4
Lyles 4/5
Sabonis 5
Len 5
Queta 5

Most of the guys can see multiple positions

Post #35 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 2:19 pm

codydaze wrote:I still don't like the idea of slotting Colby into the third PG slot, would much rather get a vet there. He's got some point guard skills that he can develop but counting on him to be in the depth chart as a PG (obviously not saying that's the only spot he'd play) wouldn't be putting him in the best position to succeed.

I don't like Colby as the 3rd PG either. Combo guard is a stretch at this point. I view him as more of a SG/Undersized SF combo. I forgot who mentioned it on Twitter but Josh Hart is a good comp.

blind prophet · Post #36 » by **blind prophet** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 2:34 am

Ellis is one scrappy and intense guy.

Ford continuing to impress me as a potential 3d PG. Under control, ready to shoot if desired, sees the floor, some passing creativity.

Post #37 » by **codydaze** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 3:01 am

Keegan looking like a stud. Colby Jones definitely might be able to carve out a role for himself this year too.

I expected more out of Queta to be honest. At this point I don't think he will be able to reach the point where he's providing valuable minutes in the league.

blind prophet · Post #38 » by **blind prophet** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 3:10 am

codydaze wrote:Keegan looking like a stud. Colby Jones definitely might be able to carve out a role for himself this year too.

I expected more out of Queta to be honest. At this point I don't think he will be able to reach the point where he's providing valuable minutes in the league.

Sometimes it takes a bit to develop the big guys, think Whiteside. But I haven't seen anything positive from Queta besides length and some improvement in lateral movement. Last year it looked like he had trouble even rebounding at times with a basic block out.

Not looking good.

He may only have this year to start showing something on this level.

BoogieTime · Post #39 » by **BoogieTime** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 3:26 am

Don't know if Kessler is going to be talented enough to round out. We have shuffled through 10-15 of these no 3 and D defensive SFs that haven't made it

Colby looks good again though

Post #40 » by **codydaze** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 3:31 am

blind prophet wrote:
codydaze wrote:Keegan looking like a stud. Colby Jones definitely might be able to carve out a role for himself this year too.

I expected more out of Queta to be honest. At this point I don't think he will be able to reach the point where he's providing valuable minutes in the league.

Sometimes it takes a bit to develop the big guys, think Whiteside. But I haven't seen anything positive from Queta besides length and some improvement in lateral movement. Last year it looked like he had trouble even rebounding at times with a basic block out.

Not looking good.

He may only have this year to start showing something on this level.

Yeah he just doesn't seem to have a whole lot of coordination, he's all over the place. Ham described him as a AAAA player meaning he's too good for AAA but can't hit in the majors and I think that's pretty accurate. He may be able to stick around on the end of benches for a while but he might be better off in Europe where he can probably find himself a good role.