2023-2024 Trade Thread

[BoogieTime]

Ainge looking for "5ish" pick for Lauri? Can we even afford Fox(potential Supermax, yikes)/Sabonis/Keegan/Monk/Lauri extend and renegotiated? That seems like a lot of cooks in the kitchen as well. On value I wouldn't mind 2 picks/2 swaps if he is here long term.

[OxAndFox]

Ainge looking for "5ish" pick for Lauri? Can we even afford Fox(potential Supermax, yikes)/Sabonis/Keegan/Monk/Lauri extend and renegotiated? That seems like a lot of cooks in the kitchen as well. On value I wouldn't mind 2 picks/2 swaps if he is here long term.

Yeah the way Fox is going and Keegan too it might be best to stand pat and try and upgrade Barnes at some stage with a specialist role player.
Right at this point I would want to go with these guys instead of losing Monk.

[BoogieTime]

It’s been making the rounds that some local news guy I’ve never heard of called Jake Gadon has league sources saying OG has no intent to being traded here… who knows why this dude would have that info of all people, or if it’s true

[FarBeyondDriven]

I hate to be a wet blanket but we really don't have a path to making any kind of move that gives us a legit chance to make the Finals. Our cupboard is bare so to speak. Other franchises have multiple future 1sts and multiple good young players. What do we have beyond our Big Three? A whole lot of nothing.

[OxAndFox]

I hate to be a wet blanket but we really don't have a path to making any kind of move that gives us a legit chance to make the Finals. Our cupboard is bare so to speak. Other franchises have multiple future 1sts and multiple good young players. What do we have beyond our Big Three? A whole lot of nothing.

I think that is where a specialist comes in. Ideally it's a 4 with some rim protection or at the least strong rebounding and shoots the 3.
Monte doesn't strike me as a guy who is going to pay a huge amount to get this guy, say Portis type player. They also don't grow on trees.
WCJ might just be the guy to see if he is available. There are certainly health red flags there, however he might just be a gettable guy. Are the injuries a thing from poor medical/training staff? Wouldn't think so from 2 different teams, but hey, who knows.

Other than that, if what Boogie is mentioning is even remotely correct then you might want Siakam instead.
What did someone say the other day? Kings might be looking to add offense at the deadline. Siakam comes in as the 2nd scorer, or 1b and Sabonis and Keegan share 3rd offensive load. Play with Monk/Ellis/JTA as the main bench guys and start Duarte as well. Just gotta stop him from thinking he is Kobe on pull up jumpers and fouling everyone at the other.
You have to think the signing of JTA comes into play somewhere, whether it's to light a fire under someone or as a guy that is going to have a semi role late in the season.

[BoogieTime]

I hate to be a wet blanket but we really don't have a path to making any kind of move that gives us a legit chance to make the Finals. Our cupboard is bare so to speak. Other franchises have multiple future 1sts and multiple good young players. What do we have beyond our Big Three? A whole lot of nothing.

We’ve been watching crap for two decades, not sure many season ticket holders or everyday fans care too much about the championship or bust mentality

Unfortunately a potentially meddling/impetuous Vivek might

But we have potentially have more draft control than most playoff teams. Make a deal with Atlanta to cede our pick outright and we can deal multiple firsts/swaps

[BoogieTime]

I hate to be a wet blanket but we really don't have a path to making any kind of move that gives us a legit chance to make the Finals. Our cupboard is bare so to speak. Other franchises have multiple future 1sts and multiple good young players. What do we have beyond our Big Three? A whole lot of nothing.

I think that is where a specialist comes in. Ideally it's a 4 with some rim protection or at the least strong rebounding and shoots the 3.
Monte doesn't strike me as a guy who is going to pay a huge amount to get this guy, say Portis type player. They also don't grow on trees.
WCJ might just be the guy to see if he is available. There are certainly health red flags there, however he might just be a gettable guy. Are the injuries a thing from poor medical/training staff? Wouldn't think so from 2 different teams, but hey, who knows.

Other than that, if what Boogie is mentioning is even remotely correct then you might want Siakam instead.
What did someone say the other day? Kings might be looking to add offense at the deadline. Siakam comes in as the 2nd scorer, or 1b and Sabonis and Keegan share 3rd offensive load. Play with Monk/Ellis/JTA as the main bench guys and start Duarte as well. Just gotta stop him from thinking he is Kobe on pull up jumpers and fouling everyone at the other.
You have to think the signing of JTA comes into play somewhere, whether it's to light a fire under someone or as a guy that is going to have a semi role late in the season.

Assuming my dream of Lauri (not much of a dream or defensive fit, just the best talent of the names available) is out of reach, would anyone take Lavine for free?

For whatever reason this team was after Beal, and avoided a franchise altering misstep in acquiring his contract, and here Lavine is vocal about being amenable to being traded here (does he know we are after him). The Lakers are reportedly offering a expiring headlining package for him. If we could get Lavine for literally clearing the two players in our starting lineup who drive me crazy in Huerter and Barnes, with Davion etc and maybe one pick?

I didn’t think the team needed more offense, and Zach’s game has been a downturn, but I’ve been hearing his name a lot. Amick says we are interested

[OxAndFox]

I hate to be a wet blanket but we really don't have a path to making any kind of move that gives us a legit chance to make the Finals. Our cupboard is bare so to speak. Other franchises have multiple future 1sts and multiple good young players. What do we have beyond our Big Three? A whole lot of nothing.

I think that is where a specialist comes in. Ideally it's a 4 with some rim protection or at the least strong rebounding and shoots the 3.
Monte doesn't strike me as a guy who is going to pay a huge amount to get this guy, say Portis type player. They also don't grow on trees.
WCJ might just be the guy to see if he is available. There are certainly health red flags there, however he might just be a gettable guy. Are the injuries a thing from poor medical/training staff? Wouldn't think so from 2 different teams, but hey, who knows.

Other than that, if what Boogie is mentioning is even remotely correct then you might want Siakam instead.
What did someone say the other day? Kings might be looking to add offense at the deadline. Siakam comes in as the 2nd scorer, or 1b and Sabonis and Keegan share 3rd offensive load. Play with Monk/Ellis/JTA as the main bench guys and start Duarte as well. Just gotta stop him from thinking he is Kobe on pull up jumpers and fouling everyone at the other.
You have to think the signing of JTA comes into play somewhere, whether it's to light a fire under someone or as a guy that is going to have a semi role late in the season.

Assuming my dream of Lauri (not much of a dream or defensive fit, just the best talent of the names available) is out of reach, would anyone take Lavine for free?

For whatever reason this team was after Beal, and avoided a franchise altering misstep in acquiring his contract, and here Lavine is vocal about being amenable to being traded here (does he know we are after him). The Lakers are reportedly offering a expiring headlining package for him. If we could get Lavine for literally clearing the two players in our starting lineup who drive me crazy in Huerter and Barnes, with Davion etc and maybe one pick?

I didn’t think the team needed more offense, and Zach’s game has been a downturn, but I’ve been hearing his name a lot. Amick says we are interested

I'm not sure about Lavine for free. Definitely wouldn't be adding any picks. Sure he would be exciting to watch in this system, but that contract hamstrings the team and its ability to improve. It would almost guarantee the team is heading into the tax next season or Monk isn't being extended. So I guess we need to know the parameters of is the team willing to go into the tax next season or do they want to hold off for 1 more year.

The team very clearly still needs that PF. That is the biggest need at the moment.
Just going to throw another name out there.
Maybe we're going after the wrong Raptor. Chris Boucher. Could he be a stop gap type of starting PF? He is a decent defender and rebounder. Maybe it's a no with his 3pt shooting.

[KF10]

I think I voiced this before back in the 2nd Houston game in early November (Brooks blowing kisses at the Kings bench and pulled down Duarte to the floor/no one stood up for him), this team appears to be mentally soft. When things goes bad, it really unravels in the worst possible way.

There was a time where coach Brown was ripping into the players last game during one of those time outs. The team didn't respond and rolled over instead.

Not sure what the solution looks like.

That being said, I want to see a bigger leadership jump in both Domas and Fox. They shouldn't let this happen under their watch.

According to Sam Amick, the Kings appear to be prioritizing offense over defense during trade talks. I'm not sure if that's the right approach.

[OxAndFox]

Yeah, not sure about the offense over defense choice. Think everyone that's looking for an upgrade is hanging on until they see who else is available. Might not be a big decision made until the last week of January at the earliest. At that point, the team goes on a 7-game road trip in 12 days and 12 games in 21 days stretch prior to the AS break. Brutal. Hard to get a new piece acclimatised in that situation, however a baptism of fire might just work.

At the end of the day, I will trust what Monte does and give him the benefit of the doubt.

[BoogieTime]

I dont know if im joking but I got two picks and a swap for LaVine just to stop seeing huerter and barnes in kings uniforms

[City of Trees]

I dont know if im joking but I got two picks and a swap for LaVine just to stop seeing huerter and barnes in kings uniforms

Come to your senses my man - Lavine will make $48 in the 26/27 season. He will be 32 years old when his deal expires


Lavine contract:

2023 - $40M
2024 - $43M
2025 - $45.99M
2026 - $48.9M

[OxAndFox]

I wonder if, with the news that Detroit is looking to add veteran help something like this might interest them.

Stewart/Morris for Barnes/Edwards
Works without Edwards, but going to put a 2 for 2 in each of these. Stewart is PPP so you need the extra salary of another player. Barnes is still not tradeable for 4 more days.

Stewart/Wiseman for Barnes/Len
Stewart/Burks for Barnes/Duarte

[BoogieTime]

I wonder if, with the news that Detroit is looking to add veteran help something like this might interest them.

Stewart/Morris for Barnes/Edwards
Works without Edwards, but going to put a 2 for 2 in each of these. Stewart is PPP so you need the extra salary of another player. Barnes is still not tradeable for 4 more days.

Stewart/Wiseman for Barnes/Len
Stewart/Burks for Barnes/Duarte

The veteran help they want should be impactful on the floor to stop their winless embarrassment, not sure Harrison is moving the needle sizably on the floor at this stage

[OxAndFox]

I wonder if, with the news that Detroit is looking to add veteran help something like this might interest them.

Stewart/Morris for Barnes/Edwards
Works without Edwards, but going to put a 2 for 2 in each of these. Stewart is PPP so you need the extra salary of another player. Barnes is still not tradeable for 4 more days.

Stewart/Wiseman for Barnes/Len
Stewart/Burks for Barnes/Duarte

The veteran help they want should be impactful on the floor to stop their winless embarrassment, not sure Harrison is moving the needle sizably on the floor at this stage

That's fair.
I think Harrison can take a larger role on offense for a team like Detroit. Not suggesting he goes to shooting the ball 17-18 times, but right now he is at 8.2. They don't have efficiency in their offense, enough outside shooting and a player that can get to the line to stabilise runs from the opposition. That's Barnes' specialty and while people are down on him, let's not forget he doesn't actually have a role here and we expect him to be this amazing player. Put him in an offense and he is still a 16-17ppg player on the same percentages.

[City of Trees]

I wonder if, with the news that Detroit is looking to add veteran help something like this might interest them.

Stewart/Morris for Barnes/Edwards
Works without Edwards, but going to put a 2 for 2 in each of these. Stewart is PPP so you need the extra salary of another player. Barnes is still not tradeable for 4 more days.

Stewart/Wiseman for Barnes/Len
Stewart/Burks for Barnes/Duarte

The veteran help they want should be impactful on the floor to stop their winless embarrassment, not sure Harrison is moving the needle sizably on the floor at this stage

Trading one of their young guys for HB sounds like the old Kings trading for Landry or Hickson.

[BoogieTime]

I dont know if im joking but I got two picks and a swap for LaVine just to stop seeing huerter and barnes in kings uniforms

Come to your senses my man - Lavine will make $48 in the 26/27 season. He will be 32 years old when his deal expires


Lavine contract:

2023 - $40M
2024 - $43M
2025 - $45.99M
2026 - $48.9M

I was joking a bit

Though we are rumored to be after him according to Amick, and after chasing Beal too I think it’s true. For some reason Kings brass thinks adding more dynamism in the backcourt may help

The Lakers D-Lo/Rui package is a bit better than Huerter/Barnes, so we might have to come up with even more capital than if the Lakers add one pick. And the Lakers are desperate so they will add something

One pick/one swap is the most if for some reason FO sees a fit but I’d rather another target with the picks

[OxAndFox]

I dont know if im joking but I got two picks and a swap for LaVine just to stop seeing huerter and barnes in kings uniforms

Come to your senses my man - Lavine will make $48 in the 26/27 season. He will be 32 years old when his deal expires


Lavine contract:

2023 - $40M
2024 - $43M
2025 - $45.99M
2026 - $48.9M

I was joking a bit

Though we are rumored to be after him according to Amick, and after chasing Beal too I think it’s true. For some reason Kings brass thinks adding more dynamism in the backcourt may help

The Lakers D-Lo/Rui package is a bit better than Huerter/Barnes, so we might have to come up with even more capital than if the Lakers add one pick. And the Lakers are desperate so they will add something

One pick/one swap is the most if for some reason FO sees a fit but I’d rather another target with the picks

I would rather, can't believe I'm saying this, go after Kuzma than do that. Think I threw up in my mouth a bit.
You would have to add more draft capital, but he would fit better than Lavine.

[BoogieTime]

Come to your senses my man - Lavine will make $48 in the 26/27 season. He will be 32 years old when his deal expires


Lavine contract:

2023 - $40M
2024 - $43M
2025 - $45.99M
2026 - $48.9M

I was joking a bit

Though we are rumored to be after him according to Amick, and after chasing Beal too I think it’s true. For some reason Kings brass thinks adding more dynamism in the backcourt may help

The Lakers D-Lo/Rui package is a bit better than Huerter/Barnes, so we might have to come up with even more capital than if the Lakers add one pick. And the Lakers are desperate so they will add something

One pick/one swap is the most if for some reason FO sees a fit but I’d rather another target with the picks

I would rather, can't believe I'm saying this, go after Kuzma than do that. Think I threw up in my mouth a bit.
You would have to add more draft capital, but he would fit better than Lavine.

Yeah, maybe so. Think the deal might still be a pick and a swap, but we know the Kings pursued him as a fit last summer. He would upgrade Barnes for sure and doesn't have the contract or quite the injury history of a LaVine

[OxAndFox]

I was joking a bit

Though we are rumored to be after him according to Amick, and after chasing Beal too I think it’s true. For some reason Kings brass thinks adding more dynamism in the backcourt may help

The Lakers D-Lo/Rui package is a bit better than Huerter/Barnes, so we might have to come up with even more capital than if the Lakers add one pick. And the Lakers are desperate so they will add something

One pick/one swap is the most if for some reason FO sees a fit but I’d rather another target with the picks

I would rather, can't believe I'm saying this, go after Kuzma than do that. Think I threw up in my mouth a bit.
You would have to add more draft capital, but he would fit better than Lavine.

Yeah, maybe so. Think the deal might still be a pick and a swap, but we know the Kings pursued him as a fit last summer. He would upgrade Barnes for sure and doesn't have the contract or quite the injury history of a LaVine

I was thinking it would cost more than that.
If it were a '25 swap and '26 (or 2 years after the Atl pick is conveyed) protected pick, say top 6-8 then I would do it.
BUT I would need to be confident he isn't coming in here with a gun slingers mindset getting his.
What you need to factor in as well, Barnes shoots the ball 8 times a game. Where are the other shots coming from?
Kevin is already shooting the ball inconsistent and giving him even more inconsistent looks is not the way to go.
Potentially it might be better if it were Kevin/Davion instead of Barnes and bring the latter off the bench. Start Duarte in a 15-18mpg role.