2020 NBA Draft II

[Feel_the_Heat15]

would that not fit the criteria of "underwhelming stats"?

There's a difference between "underwhelming stats" and "barely any stats". How can a player's stats accurately be described as underwhelming if barely any are available?

ok, what do you consider to be underwhelming? who would be your example?

You're already not answering my questions, I'm not going to waste my time on this.

[Marcus]

There's a difference between "underwhelming stats" and "barely any stats". How can a player's stats accurately be described as underwhelming if barely any are available?

ok, what do you consider to be underwhelming? who would be your example?

You're already not answering my questions, I'm not going to waste my time on this.

good talk.

[freypies]

When's the last time an international prospect with underwhelming stats became a good player?

Who is this in reference to? Avdija?

[clyde21]

I thought someone would say Giannis but Giannis barely has any stats from before he was drafted.

would that not fit the criteria of "underwhelming stats"?

There's a difference between "underwhelming stats" and "barely any stats". How can a player's stats accurately be described as underwhelming if barely any are available?

lmao.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

would that not fit the criteria of "underwhelming stats"?

There's a difference between "underwhelming stats" and "barely any stats". How can a player's stats accurately be described as underwhelming if barely any are available?

lmao.

I honestly do not understand the point of leaving little remarks here and then not justifying their existence. What exactly are you trying to prove here by doing that? Now we're saying that having under-recorded stats is the same as having underwhelming stats.

[EMG518]

What is everyone's take on RJ Hampton?

[No-Man]

What is everyone's take on RJ Hampton?

high floor, meh ceiling

I think he will be solid, don't see the upside really

[Roddy B for 3]

What is everyone's take on RJ Hampton?

high floor, meh ceiling

I think he will be solid, don't see the upside really

I see an Elfrid Payton/Daunte Exum type.

What do you think about those comparisons?

[JamesConway]

What is everyone's take on RJ Hampton?

high floor, meh ceiling

I think he will be solid, don't see the upside really

Who do you like around #20 for the Mavs?

[Stillwater]

I thought someone would say Giannis but Giannis barely has any stats from before he was drafted.

would that not fit the criteria of "underwhelming stats"?

There's a difference between "underwhelming stats" and "barely any stats". How can a player's stats accurately be described as underwhelming if barely any are available?

Mr not enough overwhelming was passed on by every team in the lottery so the rule is risk and $ matter but Giannis has kind of changed some orgs willingness to bet on the upside

[Feel_the_Heat15]

would that not fit the criteria of "underwhelming stats"?

There's a difference between "underwhelming stats" and "barely any stats". How can a player's stats accurately be described as underwhelming if barely any are available?

Mr not enough overwhelming was passed on by every team in the lottery so the rule is risk and $ matter but Giannis has kind of changed some orgs willingness to bet on the upside

I don't think he has, in fact I think that teams are even less likely to bet on upside than in previous drafts.

[clyde21]

What is everyone's take on RJ Hampton?

top2 prospect in this class

[clyde21]

who are the notable names people are thinking come back? it'll be a lot easier to do a fleshed out ranking once we have a good idea of who's in/out

[Ruzious]

who are the notable names people are thinking come back? it'll be a lot easier to do a fleshed out ranking once we have a good idea of who's in/out

Seems like there's fewer and fewer every year. It probably depends on what kind of guarantee they get, so it's too soon to tell. I think a player like Jahmi'us Ramsey stays unless he gets a 1st round guarantee. If he keeps hitting 3's the way he has lately, he'll get that guarantee.

[No-Man]

What is everyone's take on RJ Hampton?

high floor, meh ceiling

I think he will be solid, don't see the upside really

Who do you like around #20 for the Mavs?

I like Trayce Jackson-Davis, Devin Vassell, Patrick Williams the most

[nolang1]

There's a difference between "underwhelming stats" and "barely any stats". How can a player's stats accurately be described as underwhelming if barely any are available?

ok, what do you consider to be underwhelming? who would be your example?

You're already not answering my questions, I'm not going to waste my time on this.

There is no question. There is no debate other than you vs. the English language. It is always you just not understanding what words mean and making up your own definition for something that every reasonable person already understands. I'll help you out: when we talk about a prospect's stats, it's obviously understood that their stats are influenced by the level of competition they're playing against.

Aside from you, I'd say basically everyone else posting on this board has the sense to understand that just as the same stats accumulated in NCAA Division III aren't as impressive as if they were accumulated in NCAA Division I, there are differences among the various leagues in Europe. Most reasonable people elect to discuss those stats in broader terms rather than throwing out a bunch of numbers without context and getting bogged down in a discussion of how the Greek 2nd division compares to the Slovenian 1st division or the Big Sky conference or U19 World Cup play or whatever. In the case of someone like Giannis, his stats from Greece are not even hard to find and would certainly qualify as underwhelming (they weren't horrible but obviously he was on the NBA radar due to his physical attributes and potential rather than his stats against NCAA D2/D3-caliber competition).

[Stillwater]

There's a difference between "underwhelming stats" and "barely any stats". How can a player's stats accurately be described as underwhelming if barely any are available?

Mr not enough overwhelming was passed on by every team in the lottery so the rule is risk and $ matter but Giannis has kind of changed some orgs willingness to bet on the upside

I don't think he has, in fact I think that teams are even less likely to bet on upside than in previous drafts.

Dont tell ATL that (Reddish terrible collegiate impact) or CLE (Garland 5 solid games against unranked opponents)
Every year there is somebody taken lower than they should have been taken and way too many taken on upside that never is reached.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

ok, what do you consider to be underwhelming? who would be your example?

You're already not answering my questions, I'm not going to waste my time on this.

There is no question. There is no debate other than you vs. the English language. It is always you just not understanding what words mean and making up your own definition for something that every reasonable person already understands. I'll help you out: when we talk about a prospect's stats, it's obviously understood that their stats are influenced by the level of competition they're playing against.

Aside from you, I'd say basically everyone else posting on this board has the sense to understand that just as the same stats accumulated in NCAA Division III aren't as impressive as if they were accumulated in NCAA Division I, there are differences among the various leagues in Europe. Most reasonable people elect to discuss those stats in broader terms rather than throwing out a bunch of numbers without context and getting bogged down in a discussion of how the Greek 2nd division compares to the Slovenian 1st division or the Big Sky conference or U19 World Cup play or whatever. In the case of someone like Giannis, his stats from Greece are not even hard to find and would certainly qualify as underwhelming (they weren't horrible but obviously he was on the NBA radar due to his physical attributes and potential rather than his stats against NCAA D2/D3-caliber competition).

I don't think I need to come back with an actual response when you've actually just said that "there is no question" when there absolutely was.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Tre Jones' 3-point rate, 3-point percentage and 3-point attempts have all decreased. Are people still confident that this guy is a future 3-point shooter in the NBA?

[CP War Hawks]

What is everyone's take on RJ Hampton?

high floor, meh ceiling

I think he will be solid, don't see the upside really

Who do you like around #20 for the Mavs?

I'd go with Bey for the Mavs. Matrix lite type of player would be dynamite with Doncic.