Jordan Hawkins - UConn

[EvanZ]

Whomever takes Hawkins has to worry more about how to hide him on defense. I don’t think Dallas can afford that.


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From what I have seen at Uconn, he is not that bad of a defender that you need to hide him.

College teams aren’t good enough to take advantage. But he’s going to be bbq chicken in the nba.


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[big-shot-ROB]

Hawkings definetely needs to add mass or he's going to be targeted by bigger wings but that's true for most young players. Man vs boy in terms of body development.
BBQ chicken is a biiiig stretch.
Also if Dallas takes him right at #10 that is very bad asset management. If ORL takes Ausar at 6# and then we're set on Wallace at #8 and Black at #9 then it means one of Hendricks, Walker or Whitmore is there. You need to trade back and gain additional assets if you don't want those guys bc there's certainly going to be a market for them. Hawkings will be there later.

[big-shot-ROB]

I imagine he'd be a great fit with Luka and his ability to find open shooters so I wouldn't be surprised if they chose him at #10. Hawkins would help unclog the lane to aid Luka's drives and post ups.

How is he different than Reggie Bullock?

Bullock is not at the same level as a movement shooter. Hawkings has Klay, Duncan Robinson off screens and curls and pnrs shooting potential. He's also a very active guy all around and his release is incredibly quick. Bullock stands static mostly in an offense for a reason.

[Big J]

I imagine he'd be a great fit with Luka and his ability to find open shooters so I wouldn't be surprised if they chose him at #10. Hawkins would help unclog the lane to aid Luka's drives and post ups.

How is he different than Reggie Bullock?

Bullock is not at the same level as a movement shooter. Hawkings has Klay, Duncan Robinson off screens and curls and pnrs shooting potential. He's also a very active guy all around and his release is incredibly quick. Bullock stands static mostly in an offense for a reason.

That’s basically what the Luka offense asks shooters to do.

[DOT]

Whomever takes Hawkins has to worry more about how to hide him on defense. I don’t think Dallas can afford that.


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From what I have seen at Uconn, he is not that bad of a defender that you need to hide him.

College teams aren’t good enough to take advantage. But he’s going to be bbq chicken in the nba.


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That's dramatically overstating it.

[CptCrunch]

If you think Hawkins can be a positive on defense like he was presumably in college, the he is a late lotto pick based on his outlier skills in off the movement shooting.

If you think he lacks the physicality and size to defend in the NBA, then he is a 7th man at worst, 4th option at best and becomes a fit based draft pick between 10-25 really. I don't think lotto teams have any business drafting this guy based on need. He can't create handling the ball. His ceiling is super limited but floor high.

[Big J]

Dean pretty much sums it up. Not a great idea to use a lotto pick on a skinny shooter who can't defend.

https://deanondraft.substack.com/p/is-jordan-hawkins-the-next-elite

[tester551]

Dean pretty much sums it up. Not a great idea to use a lotto pick on a skinny shooter who can't defend.

https://deanondraft.substack.com/p/is-jordan-hawkins-the-next-elite

Are you Dean incognito?

I don't find his stuff all that insightful.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Dean pretty much sums it up. Not a great idea to use a lotto pick on a skinny shooter who can't defend.

https://deanondraft.substack.com/p/is-jordan-hawkins-the-next-elite

i agree. that's why i would use a lotto pick on jordan hawkins.

[clyde21]

14-20 range seems like a good range for Hawkins, nothing higher and lower would be a pretty good coup for whoever is taking him, and hopefully to a team that understands that they need to put him in motion, esp in the beginning.

[whitehops]

I’m really surprised Hawkins isn’t getting more buzz going into the draft. I haven’t seen a player with his movement shooting in a looong time and he’s pretty much going to be the third “splash bro”. Likely the biggest shooting weapon in the league once curry retires.

His form is compact, his footwork and balance are immaculate and can literally go from a full sprint to a completely balanced pull up. He has range and gets his shot off in a split second and is unfazed with a hand in his face.

There’s a size difference but my comp for him is klay Thompson. At worst you’re getting buddy hield, two of the best shooters in the last decade (or ever?).

In a league predicated on shooting I’m surprised he isn’t getting more hype but raw, athletic wings that can’t shoot worth a lick are getting all the hype.

Edit: I just realized there’s a chance that GSW has a chance to take him at 19 and he would literally be the third splash bro.

[hickfromfrenchlick]

Dean pretty much sums it up. Not a great idea to use a lotto pick on a skinny shooter who can't defend.

https://deanondraft.substack.com/p/is-jordan-hawkins-the-next-elite

Are you Dean incognito?

I don't find his stuff all that insightful.

He sure wrote a lot about Hawkins. But like you I wasn't impressed.

Among other things, he's comparing Hawkins -- a key part of an extremely deep title team -- to guys who were clear #1s in college. Of course his stats don't match up. Hurley also drew up plays to exploit his incredible catch-and-shoot skills. His handle could use tightening but the notion he's "weak" with the ball or incapable of creating is pretty stupid. At least be honest and say we can't really judge those skills at this point because Hawkins didn't really have to use them. He made a lot of strides in terms of handling and defending from a disappointing freshman season to a good sophomore one, and needless to say, he continued to improve as the season went on.

He's also discounting the fact that Hawkins is the best shooter in the draft by pointing out that a bunch of guys who couldn't shoot in college learned to shoot in the NBA. If it's so easy, he should have Andre Jackson as the 4th pick in the draft.

Not saying he needs to love the guy, but he's not even giving Hawk a first round grade.

[clyde21]

J Hawk already doing J Hawk things

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[JMAC3]

He is going to get a big opportunity with Murphy, Alvarado and now CJ out. Ingram seems to be back for now...

Seems like he is already comfortable playing large mins tho.

[clyde21]

Imagine thinking this guy wasn't gonna be filthy

[Colbinii]

Imagine taking Jett Howard over him. He would be so perfect in Orlando as a floor spacer and long-term 2.

[JMAC3]

Imagine thinking this guy wasn't gonna be filthy

Imagine running from the Scoot thread

[clyde21]

Imagine thinking this guy wasn't gonna be filthy

Imagine running from the Scoot thread

Why, what's going on in the Scoot thread

[Big J]

Imagine thinking this guy wasn't gonna be filthy

Imagine running from the Scoot thread

Dude's ducking that smoke.

[Colbinii]

Imagine thinking this guy wasn't gonna be filthy

Imagine running from the Scoot thread

Why, what's going on in the Scoot thread

There's a Scoot thread?