Deni Avdija - 2020 draft

[TGW]

I think this is a great example of not judging prospects until they've had time to develop and opportunity to show it. There's a lot of similar prospects in the 2024 class that will likewise need the right landing spot and patience before casting judgement. Deni went to arguably the worst situation in the NBA. He dealt with injuries, coaching changes, and competing agendas from ownership down. Only now that the Wizards have embraced tanking has Deni approached 10 fga per game and he's finally proving how good he can be. Wizards should be building around guys like him and Coulibaly but they're so inept they'll probably trade him just as he's rewarding them for drafting him in the first place.

If they are thinking of trading him, the Kings are rumored to be shopping Mitchell and I think a swap with them for Deni makes sense for both teams since each of them need a change of scenery and fill needs. I think both are starting caliber players but Mitchell is blocked with us and Deni might get his opportunities taken from him at any time going by his history with the Wizards.

How do you in one breath say the wizards will stupidly trade Deni because of incompetence, and then suggest they trade him for Davion Mitchell, a player that can basically be had for free?

lol make it make sense

[FarBeyondDriven]

I think this is a great example of not judging prospects until they've had time to develop and opportunity to show it. There's a lot of similar prospects in the 2024 class that will likewise need the right landing spot and patience before casting judgement. Deni went to arguably the worst situation in the NBA. He dealt with injuries, coaching changes, and competing agendas from ownership down. Only now that the Wizards have embraced tanking has Deni approached 10 fga per game and he's finally proving how good he can be. Wizards should be building around guys like him and Coulibaly but they're so inept they'll probably trade him just as he's rewarding them for drafting him in the first place.

If they are thinking of trading him, the Kings are rumored to be shopping Mitchell and I think a swap with them for Deni makes sense for both teams since each of them need a change of scenery and fill needs. I think both are starting caliber players but Mitchell is blocked with us and Deni might get his opportunities taken from him at any time going by his history with the Wizards.

How do you in one breath say the wizards will stupidly trade Deni because of incompetence, and then suggest they trade him for Davion Mitchell, a player that can basically be had for free?

lol make it make sense

Had for free? As a starter he's averaged 15-2-6 shooting 33% from three in his young career. His PER 36 this season are 11-3-5 with a nearly 5:1 assist to turnover ratio with great defense. He's simply both blocked and playing out of position when he does play so his minutes and production are non-existent. He has value. Don't act like he doesn't and that Deni is some established star lol. He's putting up numbers on a historically bad tanking team. What exactly do you think you'd land if the Wizards put him on the market? A late conditional 1st or 2nd rounder and maybe a guy like Mitchell. That's about it

[TGW]

I think this is a great example of not judging prospects until they've had time to develop and opportunity to show it. There's a lot of similar prospects in the 2024 class that will likewise need the right landing spot and patience before casting judgement. Deni went to arguably the worst situation in the NBA. He dealt with injuries, coaching changes, and competing agendas from ownership down. Only now that the Wizards have embraced tanking has Deni approached 10 fga per game and he's finally proving how good he can be. Wizards should be building around guys like him and Coulibaly but they're so inept they'll probably trade him just as he's rewarding them for drafting him in the first place.

If they are thinking of trading him, the Kings are rumored to be shopping Mitchell and I think a swap with them for Deni makes sense for both teams since each of them need a change of scenery and fill needs. I think both are starting caliber players but Mitchell is blocked with us and Deni might get his opportunities taken from him at any time going by his history with the Wizards.

How do you in one breath say the wizards will stupidly trade Deni because of incompetence, and then suggest they trade him for Davion Mitchell, a player that can basically be had for free?

lol make it make sense

Had for free? As a starter he's averaged 15-2-6 shooting 33% from three in his young career. His PER 36 this season are 11-3-5 with a nearly 5:1 assist to turnover ratio with great defense. He's simply both blocked and playing out of position when he does play so his minutes and production are non-existent. He has value. Don't act like he doesn't and that Deni is some established star lol. He's putting up numbers on a historically bad tanking team. What exactly do you think you'd land if the Wizards put him on the market? A late conditional 1st or 2nd rounder and maybe a guy like Mitchell. That's about it

We won't know, because Deni is not being traded. Mitchell, OTOH, is very available

We'll see what Mitchell is worth in a few days. My guess is not much. His body of work as of late is pathetic. 37% from the field and 26% from three is grounds for a d-league stint. There's a reason he's not playing...it's because right now, he stinks.

[FarBeyondDriven]

How do you in one breath say the wizards will stupidly trade Deni because of incompetence, and then suggest they trade him for Davion Mitchell, a player that can basically be had for free?

lol make it make sense

Had for free? As a starter he's averaged 15-2-6 shooting 33% from three in his young career. His PER 36 this season are 11-3-5 with a nearly 5:1 assist to turnover ratio with great defense. He's simply both blocked and playing out of position when he does play so his minutes and production are non-existent. He has value. Don't act like he doesn't and that Deni is some established star lol. He's putting up numbers on a historically bad tanking team. What exactly do you think you'd land if the Wizards put him on the market? A late conditional 1st or 2nd rounder and maybe a guy like Mitchell. That's about it

We won't know, because Deni is not being traded. Mitchell, OTOH, is very available

We'll see what Mitchell is worth in a few days. My guess is not much. His body of work as of late is pathetic. 37% from the field and 26% from three is grounds for a d-league stint. There's a reason he's not playing...it's because right now, he stinks.

weird, he just put up 10-2-4 going 3-5 from three in a win against the Warriors in just 15 minutes. It's almost as if sporadic minutes because you're on a team trying to compete is detrimental to production for a young player. BTW, Avdija shot 30% from three last season compared to Mitchell's 32% so maybe relax

Answer the question. What do you think you'd land IF the Wizards put him on the market? As for Mitchell, they'd be selling low so I think perhaps a swap of a similar talent that is maybe blocked on their current team and likewise needs a change of scenery, maybe a conditional 1st attached that likely becomes a 2nd, from either side, depending on the player.

[The-Power]

Mitchell is in his third year and still one of the worst rotation players in the NBA, and he's progressively losing minutes because of that. He's also one of the last player people should advocate to ‘wait’ for as he was supposedly NBA-ready coming into the league. He's also 25 years old already.

But hey, he averaged 10.5 PPG on 3-5 shooting from distance on Sunday full moons between January and February. I think that could entice a team to trade a player like Avdija for him after all.

[OriAr]

He's been absolutely balling recently.

His last 23 games:
15.9 points per game
7.6 rebounds per game
3.8 assists per game
55/46/68 shooting splits (63.6% TS)

Finally he's looking like he's fulfilling the potential people have been talking about since he was a teenager.

[ItsDanger]

Why would Wizards trade a player like Avdija for a backup guard like Mitchell? Only stupid GMs do trades like that.

[OriAr]

Why would Wizards trade a player like Avdija for a backup guard like Mitchell? Only stupid GMs do trades like that.

I mean... It IS the Wizards
I'd love him to go to a playoff team, I believe he can absolutely be a contributor on a contender and maybe even a starting 3 on a contender.

[MemphisX]

Why would Wizards trade a player like Avdija for a backup guard like Mitchell? Only stupid GMs do trades like that.

If Deni became available, the offers would damn sure be better than Davion.

[Frichuela]

Why would Wizards trade a player like Avdija for a backup guard like Mitchell? Only stupid GMs do trades like that.

I mean... It IS the Wizards
I'd love him to go to a playoff team, I believe he can absolutely be a contributor on a contender and maybe even a starting 3 on a contender.

The Wizards have finally a competent front office with Michael Winger, Will Dawkins and Travis Schlenk. Deni would only be traded for a ransom.

These guys are smart and the opposite to Grunfeld and Sheppard who made plenty of stupid decisions year after year.

[Pistol King]

Wow, what a performance he has had tonight.

Watch on YouTube

[OriAr]

43 points and 14 rebounds tonight, he's been on an absolute roll lately.

[Pistol King]

43 points and 14 rebounds tonight, he's been on an absolute roll lately.

Apparently the NBA official site changed it to 15 boards now.

Not just the 43\15 stat line, but also the overall impact. He didn't force things, drew double teams, had some key stops on the defensive end and ended up with a massive +17 when the Pelicans have made a short run each time the coach subbed him out.

[KembaWalker]

I think I disrespected this guy when I compared Cades talent to his a couple years ago

[MasterIchiro]

He was a favorite of mine in 2020. I would've taken him 2 (mistake over Haliburton and LaMelo).

He's stacking up nicely on a re-draft. Maybe top-5?

[Rafael122]

He was a favorite of mine in 2020. I would've taken him 2 (mistake over Haliburton and LaMelo).

He's stacking up nicely on a re-draft. Maybe top-5?

Not sure. Edwards/Ball/Bane/Maxey/McDaniels/Vassell. Would you rank Deni over McDaniels or Vassell?

[MasterIchiro]

He was a favorite of mine in 2020. I would've taken him 2 (mistake over Haliburton and LaMelo).

He's stacking up nicely on a re-draft. Maybe top-5?

Not sure. Edwards/Ball/Bane/Maxey/McDaniels/Vassell. Would you rank Deni over McDaniels or Vassell?

Need to see more but that's his grouping/range.