BostonCouchGM wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:jman3134 wrote:
Flagg and Boozer are great, but just because those are obvious, game changing talents does not mean that the other classes are anything to sneeze at. Wagner is a legit 6'3 lead guard. Some of these players are underdeveloped, sure, but they very much are bringing a different mental approach to the game. It was fully on display last night. Projecting prospects is also about incorporating the mental game into evaluations as much as it is archetypes.
What I didn't like overall was that many of these guys seemed completely out of control making decisions in the backcourt, throwing it ahead. They also kept running ahead even when no rebound was secured. I would say that the rebounding was some of the worst I've ever seen. But, there was a lot to like from a defensive standpoint. Rotations were crisp for an event where most of the guys have not played together, with the exception of Wagner and the bigs (though he was only on the floor with Mgbako for the most part). Offensively, many of these guys have high upside once they physically develop. Cody Williams, Castle, Holloway all jumped out.
I dont put much stock into the actual McDonald's game. Even though guys played harder compared to most all star games (even past McDonald's games), its still an all star game. So ya guys will leak out more than they do in most games and so on. I think similar to like the Summer League, you can take small things like the size of a player vs others, how does their functional athleticism compare to others and so on.
And obviously there are guys with potential, its just the fact that compared to guys normally at this stage, this class (and next year's) leave a lot to be desired. Again the #1 ranking for this class has basically just been musical chairs. And its not because guys are stepping up and taking over the spot, its because no one has really separated themselves.
Like what separates Wagner from Keyonte George? George was the better shooter in high school, Id give the edge to George in the athleticism department as well (theyre pretty similar here though). And most places dont even have George top 10 in their mocks.
Who are the guys right now would you get pumped to land a top 5 pick to get. I think Matas and Collier are the two best guys in the class, but neither guy would sniff a top 3 in most drafts. Just as of right now, again comparing these guys to past classes as they were leaving high school, this class is just behind.
Like I said before, as a die hard Duke fan I would love to be wrong and for this class to be stacked. Because if that is the case and this is a stacked class, well Duke has 5 guys in the top 20, sign me up for that.
I remember when you and most (including gurus and experts on draftf sites) didn't even know who Trae Young was before the first week of the college season had been played. Just because you aren't familiar with or high on certain players doesn't mean they aren't elite. Based on talent, Foster might be your next major miss if you think he will be at Duke for multiple seasons.
I know you posted more, but when you make stupid claims like this, I’m going to focus on it. Show the proof, show that a week before the 2017 college basketball season I didn’t even know who Trae Young was. Not that I had a bad take on him, but I didn’t even know who he was. You specifically called me out on a very specific claim so back it up.
I know that you’re saying is complete BS because I remember talking Trae Young on here a full year before his college season started. And I was not a fan of his game at all. Was I too low on him? Yup. Am I still not the biggest fan of his game? Yup. I think he’s one of the most overrated players in the game because like I said years before he played in the NBA, he’s a tiny guard with horrible shot selection and is a horrible defender. But still clearly knew who he was.
But go on, show the proof that I didn’t even know who Trae Young was a week before he played college.
