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clyde21 wrote:i know i finalized my BB but I am tempted to push DWH even higher
shooting indicators are all rock solid, elite RSCI, one of the youngest cats in the class, measured well with 6-10 w/s and 10" hands, some two way juice potential.
i dunno, i know the Duke tape disappointed a bit considering the hype out of HS but there is a strong chance it's b/c of the foot issues and Duke just not being a great environment for all these dudes to showcase what they got.
or maybe I am blinded/biased bc he was my guy out of HS. someone talk me out of it.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
clyde21 wrote:i know i finalized my BB but I am tempted to push DWH even higher
shooting indicators are all rock solid, elite RSCI, one of the youngest cats in the class, measured well with 6-10 w/s and 10" hands, some two way juice potential.
i dunno, i know the Duke tape disappointed a bit considering the hype out of HS but there is a strong chance it's b/c of the foot issues and Duke just not being a great environment for all these dudes to showcase what they got.
or maybe I am blinded/biased bc he was my guy out of HS. someone talk me out of it.
BostonCouchGM wrote:clyde21 wrote:i know i finalized my BB but I am tempted to push DWH even higher
shooting indicators are all rock solid, elite RSCI, one of the youngest cats in the class, measured well with 6-10 w/s and 10" hands, some two way juice potential.
i dunno, i know the Duke tape disappointed a bit considering the hype out of HS but there is a strong chance it's b/c of the foot issues and Duke just not being a great environment for all these dudes to showcase what they got.
or maybe I am blinded/biased bc he was my guy out of HS. someone talk me out of it.
you were way too high on him before the season and imho way too low on him now. He was never the top 3 talent people thought but he's still solidly a lottery talent especially when nobody after the top 5 is clearly better than him. If you factor in his injury, rush to get back, and trying to catch up and impress, it's no wonder he had some struggles. And we know Scheyer has no idea what he's doing and did him no favors. So it all adds up to him probably being anywhere from the 5-12th best prospect in this draft. There's very little chance he'll bust but there's also very little chance he'll be an all-star either.
shotsquatch wrote:How could anyone take Brandon Miller over Scoot? Am I crazy? Scoot has a great frame, amazing athleticism, high motor, has been holding his own against grown men as a teenager -- what more could you possibly want out of a guard prospect?
DOT wrote:shotsquatch wrote:How could anyone take Brandon Miller over Scoot? Am I crazy? Scoot has a great frame, amazing athleticism, high motor, has been holding his own against grown men as a teenager -- what more could you possibly want out of a guard prospect?
The ability to shoot 3s
If the thinking is title or bust, how often do athletic PGs who can't shoot lead their teams to titles as the #1 option?
Furthermore, if Scoot doesn't reach his ceiling and doesn't develop a shot, how effective will he be as a #2 option?
With a guy like Miller, even if he doesn't reach that level of being a true #1 like Tatum, you can still comfortably slot him on a good team next to a true #1, where if Scoot doesn't reach his ceiling, he won't be a good #2 option next to a true #1
If you're just drafting based on upside and probability of reaching that upside, you go Scoot, but it's understandable if some guys would rather take Miller.
shotsquatch wrote:DOT wrote:shotsquatch wrote:How could anyone take Brandon Miller over Scoot? Am I crazy? Scoot has a great frame, amazing athleticism, high motor, has been holding his own against grown men as a teenager -- what more could you possibly want out of a guard prospect?
The ability to shoot 3s
If the thinking is title or bust, how often do athletic PGs who can't shoot lead their teams to titles as the #1 option?
Furthermore, if Scoot doesn't reach his ceiling and doesn't develop a shot, how effective will he be as a #2 option?
With a guy like Miller, even if he doesn't reach that level of being a true #1 like Tatum, you can still comfortably slot him on a good team next to a true #1, where if Scoot doesn't reach his ceiling, he won't be a good #2 option next to a true #1
If you're just drafting based on upside and probability of reaching that upside, you go Scoot, but it's understandable if some guys would rather take Miller.
How often does any player lead their team to a title? That's overthinking it, imo. I want Scoot on my team, period.
Miller is a one trick pony with attitude issues.
shotsquatch wrote:DOT wrote:shotsquatch wrote:How could anyone take Brandon Miller over Scoot? Am I crazy? Scoot has a great frame, amazing athleticism, high motor, has been holding his own against grown men as a teenager -- what more could you possibly want out of a guard prospect?
The ability to shoot 3s
If the thinking is title or bust, how often do athletic PGs who can't shoot lead their teams to titles as the #1 option?
Furthermore, if Scoot doesn't reach his ceiling and doesn't develop a shot, how effective will he be as a #2 option?
With a guy like Miller, even if he doesn't reach that level of being a true #1 like Tatum, you can still comfortably slot him on a good team next to a true #1, where if Scoot doesn't reach his ceiling, he won't be a good #2 option next to a true #1
If you're just drafting based on upside and probability of reaching that upside, you go Scoot, but it's understandable if some guys would rather take Miller.
How often does any player lead their team to a title? That's overthinking it, imo. I want Scoot on my team, period.
Miller is a one trick pony with attitude issues.
shotsquatch wrote:DOT wrote:shotsquatch wrote:How could anyone take Brandon Miller over Scoot? Am I crazy? Scoot has a great frame, amazing athleticism, high motor, has been holding his own against grown men as a teenager -- what more could you possibly want out of a guard prospect?
The ability to shoot 3s
If the thinking is title or bust, how often do athletic PGs who can't shoot lead their teams to titles as the #1 option?
Furthermore, if Scoot doesn't reach his ceiling and doesn't develop a shot, how effective will he be as a #2 option?
With a guy like Miller, even if he doesn't reach that level of being a true #1 like Tatum, you can still comfortably slot him on a good team next to a true #1, where if Scoot doesn't reach his ceiling, he won't be a good #2 option next to a true #1
If you're just drafting based on upside and probability of reaching that upside, you go Scoot, but it's understandable if some guys would rather take Miller.
How often does any player lead their team to a title? That's overthinking it, imo. I want Scoot on my team, period.
Miller is a one trick pony with attitude issues.
LofJ wrote:Woj says Miller is the pick, Shams says Scoot. I'm ready for this to be over with, lol.
SeattleJazzFan wrote:shotsquatch wrote:DOT wrote:The ability to shoot 3s
If the thinking is title or bust, how often do athletic PGs who can't shoot lead their teams to titles as the #1 option?
Furthermore, if Scoot doesn't reach his ceiling and doesn't develop a shot, how effective will he be as a #2 option?
With a guy like Miller, even if he doesn't reach that level of being a true #1 like Tatum, you can still comfortably slot him on a good team next to a true #1, where if Scoot doesn't reach his ceiling, he won't be a good #2 option next to a true #1
If you're just drafting based on upside and probability of reaching that upside, you go Scoot, but it's understandable if some guys would rather take Miller.
How often does any player lead their team to a title? That's overthinking it, imo. I want Scoot on my team, period.
Miller is a one trick pony with attitude issues.
lol. overthinking it would be passing on elite shooting and length in today's nba for lack of shooting and only okay length.
clyde21 wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:shotsquatch wrote:How often does any player lead their team to a title? That's overthinking it, imo. I want Scoot on my team, period.
Miller is a one trick pony with attitude issues.
lol. overthinking it would be passing on elite shooting and length in today's nba for lack of shooting and only okay length.
"elite shooting"
fyi
Miller shot 34% from the NBA 3pt line this year
Scoot shot 33% from the NBA 3pt line this year
if Miller's shooting is the gamebreaker here, you might have to rethink that.
SeattleJazzFan wrote:clyde21 wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:
lol. overthinking it would be passing on elite shooting and length in today's nba for lack of shooting and only okay length.
"elite shooting"
fyi
Miller shot 34% from the NBA 3pt line this year
Scoot shot 33% from the NBA 3pt line this year
if Miller's shooting is the gamebreaker here, you might have to rethink that.
how many nba threes did Miller shoot? maybe 50? 75? Scoot even fewer? sample size matters. he also shot 86% FTs.
Pathora wrote:I have a weird feeling if Scoot goes 2 that Brandon Miller falls to 5 and Detroit trades him for the best offer available. Portland takes Amen and Houston takes Ausar or Anthony Black.
