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HadAnEffectHere wrote:Topic sucked horribly in his two Euroleague games and I would like him to play again in Euroleague before the season ends.

His two month injury has turned into a 3-4 month injury.

Wemby was averaging 6.5 ppg and 17 mpg as an 18 yr old in the Euroleague. Idk if Topic playing 19 mpg in his debut this year is really what I would say sucking horribly.

Unless your Luka Doncic you are probably struggling in EL play that young.

JMAC3 wrote:

HadAnEffectHere wrote:Topic sucked horribly in his two Euroleague games and I would like him to play again in Euroleague before the season ends.

His two month injury has turned into a 3-4 month injury.

Wemby was averaging 6.5 ppg and 17 mpg as an 18 yr old in the Euroleague. Idk if Topic playing 19 mpg in his debut this year is really what I would say sucking horribly.

Unless your Luka Doncic you are probably struggling in EL play that young.

that's b/c Wemby was (and really still is) completely underdeveloped physically...Topic is kinda already maxed out physically tbh.

clyde21 wrote:

JMAC3 wrote:

HadAnEffectHere wrote:Topic sucked horribly in his two Euroleague games and I would like him to play again in Euroleague before the season ends.

His two month injury has turned into a 3-4 month injury.

Wemby was averaging 6.5 ppg and 17 mpg as an 18 yr old in the Euroleague. Idk if Topic playing 19 mpg in his debut this year is really what I would say sucking horribly.

Unless your Luka Doncic you are probably struggling in EL play that young.

that's b/c Wemby was (and really still is) completely underdeveloped physically...Topic is kinda already maxed out physically tbh.

Nah bro he's still increasing his neck length.

clyde21 wrote:

JMAC3 wrote:

HadAnEffectHere wrote:Topic sucked horribly in his two Euroleague games and I would like him to play again in Euroleague before the season ends.

His two month injury has turned into a 3-4 month injury.

Wemby was averaging 6.5 ppg and 17 mpg as an 18 yr old in the Euroleague. Idk if Topic playing 19 mpg in his debut this year is really what I would say sucking horribly.

Unless your Luka Doncic you are probably struggling in EL play that young.

that's b/c Wemby was (and really still is) completely underdeveloped physically...Topic is kinda already maxed out physically tbh.

Idk if I am ready to say the youngest player in the draft is maxed out physically.

JMAC3 wrote:

clyde21 wrote:

JMAC3 wrote:
Wemby was averaging 6.5 ppg and 17 mpg as an 18 yr old in the Euroleague. Idk if Topic playing 19 mpg in his debut this year is really what I would say sucking horribly.

Unless your Luka Doncic you are probably struggling in EL play that young.

that's b/c Wemby was (and really still is) completely underdeveloped physically...Topic is kinda already maxed out physically tbh.

Idk if I am ready to say the youngest player in the draft is maxed out physically.

yeah, i'd be curious why anybody would think an 18 year old, any 18 year old is maxed out physically. that seems bonkers to me.

what kind of physical improvement are you guys expecting? whats he gonna look like in 5 years?

clyde21 wrote:what kind of physical improvement are you guys expecting? whats he gonna look like in 5 years?

what kind of physical improvement does any 18 year old experience between the ages of 18 and say 24?

isn't it generally in the form of muscle and body mass? in short they generally get bigger and stronger.

dunno, maybe that's crazy. but as a sports fan i've seen it happen several times over the years in various sports. in fact, i could probably count on one hand the times an elite athlete hasn't gotten bigger and/or stronger between the ages of 18 and 24/25.

thousands and thousands of athletes, various sports, maybe if i tried really hard i could think of 5.

SeattleJazzFan wrote:

clyde21 wrote:what kind of physical improvement are you guys expecting? whats he gonna look like in 5 years?

what kind of physical improvement does any 18 year old experience between the ages of 18 and say 24?

isn't it generally in the form of muscle and body mass? in short they generally get bigger and stronger.

dunno, maybe that's crazy. but as a sports fan i've seen it happen several times over the years in various sports. in fact, i could probably count on one hand the times an elite athlete hasn't gotten bigger and/or stronger between the ages of 18 and 24/25.

thousands and thousands of athletes, various sports, maybe if i tried really hard i could think of 5.

he's not Wemby where you knew he'd look completely different in a few years, and doesn't really have the frame to pack on a lot more weight than he already has.

yea, he'll get stronger but that's about it, just don't know how that'll make him way better than what he now.

clyde21 wrote:what kind of physical improvement are you guys expecting? whats he gonna look like in 5 years?

For 1, are we sure he is even done growing? If he is a true 6-8 in 12 months does that not change the way you view him as a prospect? 2nd, he is bound to get bigger, faster, stronger because that is what 90% of athletes do that are his age.

Either way even if he doesn't I think he has NBA size and athleticism now at 6-6+

JMAC3 wrote:

clyde21 wrote:what kind of physical improvement are you guys expecting? whats he gonna look like in 5 years?

For 1, are we sure he is even done growing? If he is a true 6-8 in 12 months does that not change the way you view him as a prospect? 2nd, he is bound to get bigger, faster, stronger because that is what 90% of athletes do that are his age.

Either way even if he doesn't I think he has NBA size and athleticism now at 6-6+

lol of course if he's a true 6-8 that completely changes his prospects, but he's not, he's more like 6-5 and it's not a very functional 6-5 either tbh.

clyde21 wrote:

JMAC3 wrote:

clyde21 wrote:what kind of physical improvement are you guys expecting? whats he gonna look like in 5 years?

For 1, are we sure he is even done growing? If he is a true 6-8 in 12 months does that not change the way you view him as a prospect? 2nd, he is bound to get bigger, faster, stronger because that is what 90% of athletes do that are his age.

Either way even if he doesn't I think he has NBA size and athleticism now at 6-6+

lol of course if he's a true 6-8 that completely changes his prospects, but he's not, he's more like 6-5 and it's not a very functional 6-5 either tbh.

Yeah, just kind of feels like you are picking and choosing who you view as guys that will improve physically when it reality 80% of the time we have no idea.

Cody Williams looked a lot quicker in EYBL when he was a couple inches shorter and didn't have a training facility, he also has the type of frame that can put on some weight, that's why I think in a few years he'll be an legit NBA athlete. Topic has been on pro-teams his whole career and just looked physically overwhelmed with Red Star.

JMAC3 wrote:

clyde21 wrote:

JMAC3 wrote:
For 1, are we sure he is even done growing? If he is a true 6-8 in 12 months does that not change the way you view him as a prospect? 2nd, he is bound to get bigger, faster, stronger because that is what 90% of athletes do that are his age.

Either way even if he doesn't I think he has NBA size and athleticism now at 6-6+

lol of course if he's a true 6-8 that completely changes his prospects, but he's not, he's more like 6-5 and it's not a very functional 6-5 either tbh.

Yeah, just kind of feels like you are picking and choosing who you view as guys that will improve physically when it reality 80% of the time we have no idea.

not really, you can tell by frames and athletic profiles, you think it was tough to tell that Wemby will look completely different in 5 years than he did when he was 18? Or Jabari? Or Chet?

i guess if he does balloon to 6-8 then that's a different convo but not sure why we should be even talking about that unless it happens.

RyugaFan wrote:Cody Williams looked a lot quicker in EYBL when he was a couple inches shorter and didn't have a training facility, he also has the type of frame that can put on some weight, that's why I think in a few years he'll be an legit NBA athlete. Topic has been on pro-teams his whole career and just looked physically overwhelmed with Red Star.

Cody Williams is one of the guys in this class that could look completely different physically in a few years, that's a good example of what I am talking about

RyugaFan wrote:Cody Williams looked a lot quicker in EYBL when he was a couple inches shorter and didn't have a training facility, he also has the type of frame that can put on some weight, that's why I think in a few years he'll be an legit NBA athlete. Topic has been on pro-teams his whole career and just looked physically overwhelmed with Red Star.

Those couple games he played were the only time this season that red star was running breaks. Speed definitely isn't an issue for him. He also wasn't getting posted up much. But, admittedly, teams didn't have time to scout his weaknesses.

The knee stability stuff is fixed by doing squats. That depends on his work ethic.

"Topić started progressing in his recovery from his knee injury and was spotted recently shooting and doing other on-court activities with the team. He could be limited in workouts during the pre-draft process, but it appears he will be ready for the start of next season."

He's supposed to return on Monday, for the second game of the Adriatic League play off's. Those were the words from the club's president.

Looks like he did end up playing, only 5 mins thus far at the half but at least he is playing again.

JMAC3 wrote:Looks like he did end up playing, only 5 mins thus far at the half but at least he is playing again.

8 pts in 16 mins on 3/5 shooting.
Good start if he can ramp up for the playoffs.