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Re: Stephon Castle 

Post#241 » by OriAr » Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:56 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:I don't view Castle as an NBA playoff rotation player at all unless he shoots 37%+ from three on very high volume.

That's a prereq whether or not he plays PG or SG.

No need for super high volume... even 36% on 4 3PA per game will do.
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Re: Stephon Castle 

Post#242 » by Devilanche » Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:20 am

OriAr wrote:
HadAnEffectHere wrote:I don't view Castle as an NBA playoff rotation player at all unless he shoots 37%+ from three on very high volume.

That's a prereq whether or not he plays PG or SG.

No need for super high volume... even 36% on 4 3PA per game will do.

Are we expecting his defensive effort to translate ?
If yes that should be closer to 3-4 attempts.

Very high attempt should be only for pure 3 point specialist which he will never be.
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Re: Stephon Castle 

Post#243 » by OriAr » Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:28 pm

Devilanche wrote:
OriAr wrote:
HadAnEffectHere wrote:I don't view Castle as an NBA playoff rotation player at all unless he shoots 37%+ from three on very high volume.

That's a prereq whether or not he plays PG or SG.

No need for super high volume... even 36% on 4 3PA per game will do.

Are we expecting his defensive effort to translate ?
If yes that should be closer to 3-4 attempts.

Very high attempt should be only for pure 3 point specialist which he will never be.

I mean the selling point for Castle is his defense, if that doesn't translate he won't stay in the league for long so it won't matter much.
But if he can improve his shot to respectable that'll help him a lot.
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Re: Stephon Castle 

Post#244 » by JMAC3 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:49 pm

Can we just agree shooting percentage is pointless on small volume? Anthony Black shot 39% this year and is getting dnp in the playoffs despite all the plus stuff he brings.

I agree with Castle improving his shooting over time, but we are probably talking 2-3 years min before he is at least avg and teams actually respect him in a meaningful game. He is a lock for a top 10 pick in this class, probably should get looks at 5 but nobody should be taking a guy that might average 8 ppg for his first 3 years inside the top 3.
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Re: Stephon Castle 

Post#245 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:52 pm

Castle was a scorer coming out of highschool.

If you put the ball in his hands and let him run the show then he might be a future all-star. But if you already have scorers then he could be a nice complimentary piece to a team.
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Re: Stephon Castle 

Post#246 » by Devilanche » Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:06 pm

OriAr wrote:
Devilanche wrote:
OriAr wrote:No need for super high volume... even 36% on 4 3PA per game will do.

Are we expecting his defensive effort to translate ?
If yes that should be closer to 3-4 attempts.

Very high attempt should be only for pure 3 point specialist which he will never be.

I mean the selling point for Castle is his defense, if that doesn't translate he won't stay in the league for long so it won't matter much.
But if he can improve his shot to respectable that'll help him a lot.

I was leaning to your interpretation in terms of volume of 3s attempted over hadaneffecthere
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Re: Stephon Castle 

Post#247 » by ItsDanger » Today 3:43 pm

6'2.25 without shoes? That's got to hurt his value a lot.
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Re: Stephon Castle 

Post#248 » by EmpireFalls » Today 3:43 pm

It almost has to be a typo right? The dude’s Twitter bio says he’s 6’7”
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Re: Stephon Castle 

Post#249 » by SeattleJazzFan » Today 3:50 pm

ItsDanger wrote:6'2.25 without shoes? That's got to hurt his value a lot.


not really. marcus smart was always the closest comparison/archetype for castle and his measurements are essentially an exact replica of smart's.
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Post#250 » by ItsDanger » Today 3:51 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:6'2.25 without shoes? That's got to hurt his value a lot.


not really. marcus smart was always the closest comparison/archetype for castle and his measurements are essentially an exact replica of smart's.

Now list all the guys who failed in similar situation. It’s going to hurt his value a lot.
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Post#251 » by DaddyCool19 » Today 3:55 pm

Has to be a typo, right? I've seen a picture of him next to Lillard and he looked probably 2 inches taller than him.

https://www.instagram.com/stories/a2asquared/3366737050449570980/?hl=de

Here is a picture of him from today next to Tristen Newton, who was measured at 6'3,25 without shoes.
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Re: Stephon Castle 

Post#252 » by SeattleJazzFan » Today 3:56 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:6'2.25 without shoes? That's got to hurt his value a lot.


not really. marcus smart was always the closest comparison/archetype for castle and his measurements are essentially an exact replica of smart's.

Now list all the guys who failed in similar situation. It’s going to hurt his value a lot.


you could say that about literally any archetype. most guys fail. you could take a guy who is 6'8" with a 7'2" ws and make a list a mile long of guys who failed.

the bottom line is, wingspan and don't forget body type - Castle is a big bodied guard like smart - matter. to ignore wingspan is a fool's errand.
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