OT: Leafs/NHL Thread

[And1Skip]

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As someone who barely watches hockey, can someone explain what these numbers mean?

PP% is the percentage of the team scoring on a power-play. That is, when the other team gets a penalty and you play 5 on 4, 4 on 3 or 5 on 3 (if 2 penalties) vs the opponent. Normally you should have the advantage when your team outnumbers the other so have a greater chance to score. A team like Edmonton basically has been that good all season on the PP. Leafs were good in regular season, but atrocious in the playoffs.

PK% is the opposite - like when your team is on the penalty kill (other team on power play) and does not let the opponent score.

[ATLTimekeeper]

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As someone who barely watches hockey, can someone explain what these numbers mean?

It's the success percentage of your power play and penalty kill. So how many goals scored/prevented v. how many opportunities.

[JB7]

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As someone who barely watches hockey, can someone explain what these numbers mean?

Percentage of success. So in the case of PP%, it is when the team is on a powerplay (man advantage), because the other team has been penalized. In the playoffs, scoring is generated quite a bit from the powerplay. So the numbers reflect how many times the team scored a goal while on the powerplay.

For PK %, it is how effective the team was at killing those man advantages, when the team had a penalty (other team had a powerplay).

Again, in the playoffs, since the game is played much tighter defensively, the best scoring opportunities are usually generated from powerplays.

What the table shows is the teams that were best at scoring on the powerplay, and limiting goals when short handed (had a penalty) tend to have the most success in the playoffs.

What is truly amazing is how pitiful the Leafs powerplay was considering the talent on the roster. There is almost no excuse for their powerplay to be producing at a 5% success rate. They should be much closer to what Edmonton is seeing (45%).

[LoveMyRaps]

Is Marner gone yet?

[ItsDanger]

None of the Leafs defense are what you should consider as PP QBs. None of the top 4 forwards are ideal point men either. Rielly's offense is best shown at even strength. This roster mix has been flawed for too long.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Pretty classy exit.

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I don't buy a word of it But it reminds me that it took Nurse like two months to post a thank-you after angling for his own exit mid-season.

[bballsparkin]

Who would be the Kyle Lowry the Leafs could go get? They don't have one.

Ryan O'Reilly was the first to pop into my mind. Smart, gritty, hard worker, gets respect.

[tanuki1031]

Who would be the Kyle Lowry the Leafs could go get? They don't have one.

Ryan O'Reilly was the first to pop into my mind. Smart, gritty, hard worker, gets respect.

Anyone who is unaware or forgot, ROR said it wasn't a contract issue and noped the **** out of Toronto citing the locker room / culture.

Dude came in with so much positivity and grit to win a Cup longterm with his hometown team and he had seen enough in his three months here.

[Merit]

^^^Don't forget the wives have input. Especially if they grew up south of the border where it's warmer. In this doc, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2801462/ (Special Ed), iirc, they guy who made it, his wife was from Paris. They met in Montreal. But when he decided to move back to the Peg and make the film she told him, "i love you. but not enough to live in Winnipeg". Hah, or something like that.

Yeah, for NBA players I automatically assume they want no part of Toronto if they are married lol. Giannis' wife is from California and I bet that will play a part when he asks out or if/when he hits free agency.

But but white Vegas.

Toronto should have a monopoly on Canadian players though.

[Merit]

Who would be the Kyle Lowry the Leafs could go get? They don't have one.

Ryan O'Reilly was the first to pop into my mind. Smart, gritty, hard worker, gets respect.

Anyone who is unaware or forgot, ROR said it wasn't a contract issue and noped the **** out of Toronto citing the locker room / culture.

Dude came in with so much positivity and grit to win a Cup longterm with his hometown team and he had seen enough in his three months here.

He got paid though.

[xAIRNESSx]

Who would be the Kyle Lowry the Leafs could go get? They don't have one.

Ryan O'Reilly was the first to pop into my mind. Smart, gritty, hard worker, gets respect.

Anyone who is unaware or forgot, ROR said it wasn't a contract issue and noped the **** out of Toronto citing the locker room / culture.

Dude came in with so much positivity and grit to win a Cup longterm with his hometown team and he had seen enough in his three months here.

ROR never cited the locker room or culture for why he left.

[ForeverTFC]

^^^Don't forget the wives have input. Especially if they grew up south of the border where it's warmer. In this doc, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2801462/ (Special Ed), iirc, they guy who made it, his wife was from Paris. They met in Montreal. But when he decided to move back to the Peg and make the film she told him, "i love you. but not enough to live in Winnipeg". Hah, or something like that.

Yeah, for NBA players I automatically assume they want no part of Toronto if they are married lol. Giannis' wife is from California and I bet that will play a part when he asks out or if/when he hits free agency.

But but white Vegas.

Toronto should have a monopoly on Canadian players though.

Why? It's a lot more fun to be really rich in NY/LA/Miami than in Toronto.

[tanuki1031]

Ryan O'Reilly was the first to pop into my mind. Smart, gritty, hard worker, gets respect.

Anyone who is unaware or forgot, ROR said it wasn't a contract issue and noped the **** out of Toronto citing the locker room / culture.

Dude came in with so much positivity and grit to win a Cup longterm with his hometown team and he had seen enough in his three months here.

ROR never cited the locker room or culture for why he left.

He had months to walk things back and the media didn't publish tailored language articles until Oct/Nov 2023.

ROR signed with the Preds as soon as free agency began and he said the same offer and money was there from the Leafs but it wasn't a good fit there. He hasn't repeated the same contract offer terms and the Leafs have refrained from commenting, but that info was out there. I can't find the clip but it was there as it unfolded because his immediate signing with the Preds was a surprise considering he wasn't brought in as a rental and his comments while here were long-term focused.

Watching him play in the playoffs you could tell he wasn't a fan of playing with that group when there are actual stakes. He wanted no part of the culture and play style after experiencing it first hand for ~30 games. He played his ass off those games and he knew it wasn't happening (team getting far and him returning).

When a guy signs away day one of free agency, you have to figure his mind had already been made long ago. This was never a case of the Leafs playing hard ball or wavering about bringing him back considering they traded real assets to get him and he demonstrated play worth that value. They offered him money and term, he immediately said no.

[Merit]

Yeah, for NBA players I automatically assume they want no part of Toronto if they are married lol. Giannis' wife is from California and I bet that will play a part when he asks out or if/when he hits free agency.

But but white Vegas.

Toronto should have a monopoly on Canadian players though.

Why? It's a lot more fun to be really rich in NY/LA/Miami than in Toronto.

I meant Torontonian* players. Aka they're coming home to end the curse.

[wegotthabeet]

Anyone who is unaware or forgot, ROR said it wasn't a contract issue and noped the **** out of Toronto citing the locker room / culture.

Dude came in with so much positivity and grit to win a Cup longterm with his hometown team and he had seen enough in his three months here.

ROR never cited the locker room or culture for why he left.

He had months to walk things back and the media didn't publish tailored language articles until Oct/Nov 2023.

ROR signed with the Preds as soon as free agency began and he said the same offer and money was there from the Leafs but it wasn't a good fit there. He hasn't repeated the same contract offer terms and the Leafs have refrained from commenting, but that info was out there. I can't find the clip but it was there as it unfolded because his immediate signing with the Preds was a surprise considering he wasn't brought in as a rental and his comments while here were long-term focused.

Watching him play in the playoffs you could tell he wasn't a fan of playing with that group when there are actual stakes. He wanted no part of the culture and play style after experiencing it first hand for ~30 games. He played his ass off those games and he knew it wasn't happening (team getting far and him returning).

When a guy signs away day one of free agency, you have to figure his mind had already been made long ago. This was never a case of the Leafs playing hard ball or wavering about bringing him back considering they traded real assets to get him and he demonstrated play worth that value. They offered him money and term, he immediately said no.

Most people aren’t built for the brightest lights. If a guy is too soft to be here then he wasn’t going to make a difference anyways. Now he’s golfing just like he would have been as a Leaf.

[Merit]

Anyone who is unaware or forgot, ROR said it wasn't a contract issue and noped the **** out of Toronto citing the locker room / culture.

Dude came in with so much positivity and grit to win a Cup longterm with his hometown team and he had seen enough in his three months here.

ROR never cited the locker room or culture for why he left.

He had months to walk things back and the media didn't publish tailored language articles until Oct/Nov 2023.

ROR signed with the Preds as soon as free agency began and he said the same offer and money was there from the Leafs but it wasn't a good fit there. He hasn't repeated the same contract offer terms and the Leafs have refrained from commenting, but that info was out there. I can't find the clip but it was there as it unfolded because his immediate signing with the Preds was a surprise considering he wasn't brought in as a rental and his comments while here were long-term focused.

Watching him play in the playoffs you could tell he wasn't a fan of playing with that group when there are actual stakes. He wanted no part of the culture and play style after experiencing it first hand for ~30 games. He played his ass off those games and he knew it wasn't happening (team getting far and him returning).

When a guy signs away day one of free agency, you have to figure his mind had already been made long ago. This was never a case of the Leafs playing hard ball or wavering about bringing him back considering they traded real assets to get him and he demonstrated play worth that value. They offered him money and term, he immediately said no.

How do you know it was about the culture? How do you know he wasn't a fan of playing with the group? Could there be any other reasons for his leaving other than the assumptions you're making?

Could he have been disinterested in the pressure that comes with the market? Could he have wanted warmer weather? Could he have simply changed his mind?

[Potential]

Ice Cube son blaming Mike Babcock got me dead

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[metafisical]

More important than any Raps championship or anything NBA related, there is still a Canadian team left in the NHL playoffs. Oilers up 1-0 on the Stars.

[Kingsway_fan]

But but white Vegas.

Toronto should have a monopoly on Canadian players though.

Why? It's a lot more fun to be really rich in NY/LA/Miami than in Toronto.

I meant Torontonian* players. Aka they're coming home to end the curse.

Even Canadian born hockey players don't wanna play in canada... Could it be the Trudeau Peso?... high taxes, horrible weather???.. can't blame them...

[720]

Who would be the Kyle Lowry the Leafs could go get? They don't have one.

Ryan O'Reilly was the first to pop into my mind. Smart, gritty, hard worker, gets respect.

Anyone who is unaware or forgot, ROR said it wasn't a contract issue and noped the **** out of Toronto citing the locker room / culture.

Dude came in with so much positivity and grit to win a Cup longterm with his hometown team and he had seen enough in his three months here.

Didn’t he imply he wanted a bigger role for himself but the team didn’t see it the same way? Pretty sure it was just a role dispute.