2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

[WuTang_OG]

then why keep an asset like Poeltl on the books? Might as well move him, get some value early in his contract and get the long term dollars off the books.

I think Poeltl will eventually get dealt just not this off-season. In their eyes, they need a functional centre in order to improve guys like IQ, Scottie, RJ.

We can grab Capela from the Hawks then. He does basically the same thing, shorter contract and with the Hawks poised to take Sarr and already committed to Okongwu, they won't need him anymore.

S&T Trent for Capela and maybe a smaller asset.

They won't need Poeltl either. If he was making less, maybe.

Only deal for Poeltl is if Grizz up the anty for him and force TOR's hand

[MEDIC]

I was onboard with keeping the pick. Now I am kinda glad it has moved to the Spurs.

I think Jakob is more valuable than anything we could have gotten at 8. I really like Yaks game & would be kinda sad to see him go.

Plus.......I think we can get good value at 19 & we retain a future asset for trades, etc.

I like Jak, but he is a stop-gap C. He is really good at a few things, but his lack of offense and poor freethrow shooting prevent him from closing games. I don't know of a lot of teams that would start him other than maybe the Warriors. The last two years, Jak's defense has even declined.

Raptors do have to look at the bigger picture at some point. If Scottie is going to be most effective in the paint and not a high level three point scorer, then we need to surround him with shooting.

Example, the Grizzlies had Steven Adams and with him they had great defense, but they made a decision to move on from him for salary relief. We can do better than that with Poeltl since he isn't coming off any major injuries.

In the draft, we could prioritize getting some better floor spacing like Kyle Filipowski if we are lucky, but there are other options as well.

I think JP does a lot of things really well at the C position. Really good at setting screens & rolling. Very good hands. Good finishing ability near the rim. Decent passer. Fairly high IQ player. Rarely out of position. Reliable defender. He helps the team run more smoothly because of these attributes.

I think the ideal situation would be to draft a big with higher offensive potential than Yak. Have Yak mentor him for a couple of seasons so that he can undertand the fundamentals of the game before earning the starting position.

He may be a stop gap, but he's a reliable one that this team currently needa.

[Psubs]

I think Poeltl will eventually get dealt just not this off-season. In their eyes, they need a functional centre in order to improve guys like IQ, Scottie, RJ.

We can grab Capela from the Hawks then. He does basically the same thing, shorter contract and with the Hawks poised to take Sarr and already committed to Okongwu, they won't need him anymore.

S&T Trent for Capela and maybe a smaller asset.

They won't need Poeltl either. If he was making less, maybe.

Only deal for Poeltl is if Grizz up the anty for him and force TOR's hand

After Atlanta drafts Sarr, they salary dump Capela with a 2025 2nd pick and cash to us.

The difference between #1 and #11's salaries probably wasn't being considered. I guess trading Trae would help with finances.

[God Squad]

I'm locking in on Carter at 19. I can live with the results .

[OakleyDokely]

funny enough, Poeltl would be a decent fit on the Spurs. Surrounding Wemby with a rebounding, playmaking big, who finishes at the rim efficiently, who can paint protect, defend all NBA sized Cs and who doesn't require touches makes a lot of sense for them. The shooting might be a little sketchy, but they will be playing Wemby at the 5 in most small lineups anyways so any C they get will be to ensure Wemby doesn't need to bang with big guys for 48 minutes.

[Dalek]

I have the Combine Scrimmage on League Pass - so cool. KJ Simpson showing out.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

I have the Combine Scrimmage on League Pass - so cool. KJ Simpson showing out.

Simpson seems like a Raptors type pick.

[Dalek]

I have the Combine Scrimmage on League Pass - so cool. KJ Simpson showing out.

Honestly, Mogbo is the most impressive player here. Great passing, dribbling in the open court. Very skilled big man.

[WuTang_OG]

I have the Combine Scrimmage on League Pass - so cool. KJ Simpson showing out.

Simpson seems like a Raptors type pick.

I remember NEmbhard played well in this few yrs ago and played himself into getting drafted into a high 2nd

[Psubs]

Grizzlies are reportedly shopping #9 pick for an upgrade at C.

Poeltl for #9? Would Masai go for it?

No

But can you imagine . This would almost cancel “his mistake” of trading for Poeltl .

But yeah ! Not happening!

Poeltl for #9 and Brandon Clarke

Trade Boucher, McDaniels and Ochai for Wiggins.

[WuTang_OG]

No

But can you imagine . This would almost cancel “his mistake” of trading for Poeltl .

But yeah ! Not happening!

Poeltl for #9 and Brandon Clarke

Trade Boucher, McDaniels and Ochai for Wiggins.

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Poeltl for Wemby + Collins
who says no?

[Mark_83]

Okay folks switcheroo. Or swisheroo.

I'm taking Bubba Carlton Carrington at #19 if Collier doesn't drop there. The Bubba shake and bake is ridic-u-lous. The shooting touch is all there. Elite skills: Dribbling. Mid rangers...and his passing isn't shabby when-if he sees anyone out there LOL. Complete ISO freak and ankle breaker. PJ Hall at 31. Perfect power forward depth. A gamer. Going to stick to these two and watch their stock.

I ve fallen in love with his game as well

Still haven't made up my mind about Bub. For fans of his, are you not worried that he almost never gets enough separation to get to the rim and leans a little too much on that pull-up? Do you think it's something that gets sorted as he learns the game more and adds strength?

Not to mention his defense and shot selection leave a lot to be desired. Yes, he hits tough shots off the dribble, but at terrible percentages and on volume. A lot of that is out of necessity cause his teammates aren’t that good, but is he going to be able to make better decisions as a 3rd or 4th option on the floor to start his career and still be effective? This is reminding me of the Terquavion Smith hype from a year ago, which shows just how desperate we are for shot-makers.

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[Kurtz]

But can you imagine . This would almost cancel “his mistake” of trading for Poeltl .

But yeah ! Not happening!

Why do you say no?

I know that Yak has been cool with “rebuilding”, but It’s not what he and his agent signed up for. If he in fact, would prefer to play for a contender, the Grizz fit the bill and Masai could generate some great optics by moving him.

What would that deal look like though? That’s $20mil they’d have to match and it would be nice to get a bit of extra sweetener.

Yak

For

#9 (Holland)
Kennard
Zaire Williams (the sweetener to take a flier on)

How’s that on the overall?

Memphis says no.

They are still a luxury tax team.

They need to off load Clarke if they are taking on Poeltl imo

Poetl for Clarke and 9th overall? I'd be all over that.

Castle at 9 and Edey at 19 would be the perfect scenario for me. Or if Castle is off the board, we may see Topic fall to 9 due to his injury.

[Psubs]

But can you imagine . This would almost cancel “his mistake” of trading for Poeltl .

But yeah ! Not happening!

Poeltl for #9 and Brandon Clarke

Trade Boucher, McDaniels and Ochai for Wiggins.

Psubs
Poeltl for Wemby + Collins
who says no?

Kurtz is down for #9 and Clarke. So we traded #8 for #9 and Brandon Clarke.

[WuTang_OG]

Bronny really cant play in these scrimmages
shoulda went back to college

[Psubs]

Bronny really cant play in these scrimmages
shoulda went back to college

Does he look like Harold Miner?

Mac McClung > Bronny right

[Dalek]

AJ Johnson in this scrimmage looks very fluid and great size for a guard. He looks great in this type of game.

Justin Edwards just had 8 point in like 3 minutes so the man can score.

Baylor Schierman is really good and stands out more than Karaban.

This game is hard to watch because of ESPN commentators. They don't really call play by play and they spent like 10 minutes or more talking about Bronny James who has scored a whopping 4 pts. Such garbage.

[WuTang_OG]

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[bobbyp3588]

Why do you say no?

I know that Yak has been cool with “rebuilding”, but It’s not what he and his agent signed up for. If he in fact, would prefer to play for a contender, the Grizz fit the bill and Masai could generate some great optics by moving him.

What would that deal look like though? That’s $20mil they’d have to match and it would be nice to get a bit of extra sweetener.

Yak

For

#9 (Holland)
Kennard
Zaire Williams (the sweetener to take a flier on)

How’s that on the overall?

Memphis says no.

They are still a luxury tax team.

They need to off load Clarke if they are taking on Poeltl imo

Poetl for Clarke and 9th overall? I'd be all over that.

Castle at 9 and Edey at 19 would be the perfect scenario for me. Or if Castle is off the board, we may see Topic fall to 9 due to his injury.

I’d also do Clarke and 9 for Yak. I’d take Holland ideally at 9 (Castle or Topic would be fine too) and Edey at 19 if he last that long (not the guarantee it once was). Depending on how he heals, Topic could even fall all the way to us at 19. Holland and Topic would be sweet. Missi or Chomche at 31 and that’s a rousing success of a draft.

[ItsDanger]

Castle should match up well with Edey because he fights through screens.