2008/2009 Raptors Cap, Salaries, Tax Breakdown

Post #121 » by **Marvin!** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 8:59 pm

maybe it's easy to tell people how to spend money when its not your money

Boner Champ · Post #122 » by **Boner Champ** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:00 pm

Edit: shyn3 beat me to an explanation.

On another note, it would be a huge benefit to the Raps if Rasho came back for a vet's min. deal as rumoured last week.

Has anyone heard anything about this or is pretty much wishful thinking at this point?

Raptorized_Stosh · Post #123 » by **Raptorized_Stosh** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:18 pm

Marvin! wrote:maybe it's easy to tell people how to spend money when its not your money

actually it's easier when it is my money... I buy tickets, concession items, merchandise, RapsTV... and if the Raptors stop putting my money into the product and put it their pocket, I'll stop buying.

shyn3 · Post #124 » by **shyn3** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:19 pm

Raptorized_Stosh wrote:
Marvin! wrote:maybe it's easy to tell people how to spend money when its not your money

actually it's easier when it is my money... I buy tickets, concession items, merchandise, RapsTV... and if the Raptors stop putting my money into the product and put it their pocket, I'll stop buying.

Thats fair, but would you pay Joey Graham $5.5M per year?

Raptorized_Stosh · Post #125 » by **Raptorized_Stosh** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:24 pm

shyn3 wrote:
Raptorized_Stosh wrote:
Marvin! wrote:maybe it's easy to tell people how to spend money when its not your money

actually it's easier when it is my money... I buy tickets, concession items, merchandise, RapsTV... and if the Raptors stop putting my money into the product and put it their pocket, I'll stop buying.

Thats fair, but would you pay Joey Graham $5.5M per year?

no... but I'd pay Bosh $20 million... oh, wait, that's the same thing?

Then yes. I'd pay anyone/anything if I thought it made a big difference.

stretch2 · Post #126 » by **stretch2** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 10:57 pm

lostradamus wrote:Sucks that we are so tight on cash now. Any chance of Calderon signing at a discount to "help the team"? 6mil per maybe?

The only way I see that happening if Calderon contract was back end based on what ever the terms of the deal is.

stretch2 · Post #127 » by **stretch2** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 10:58 pm

lostradamus wrote:Sucks that we are so tight on cash now. Any chance of Calderon signing at a discount to "help the team"? 6mil per maybe?

The only way I see that happening if Calderon contract was back end based on what ever the terms of the deal is.

shyn3 · Post #128 » by **shyn3** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 11:01 pm

It looks like it will be a back-ended contract starting at $6.61 just would make more sense for cap flexibility, but even then the ability to sign a big FA is going to be limited.

chsh22 · Post #129 » by **chsh22** » Thu Jul 3, 2008 12:52 pm

shyn3 wrote:It looks like it will be a back-ended contract starting at $6.61 just would make more sense for cap flexibility, but even then the ability to sign a big FA is going to be limited.

If it's back-ended and starts at about 6.5, then we're really only getting the minimum to work with anyways.

shyn3 · Post #130 » by **shyn3** » Thu Jul 3, 2008 3:18 pm

It leaves approximately $3.4M on the board, because there is like $1.9M left and add in the $1.4M that the back ended contract would have so $3.4 maximum.

chsh22 · Post #131 » by **chsh22** » Thu Jul 3, 2008 8:19 pm

shyn3 wrote:It leaves approximately $3.4M on the board, because there is like $1.9M left and add in the $1.4M that the back ended contract would have so $3.4 maximum.

Depends on the details of certain contracts which we don't have details on.

EventHorizon · Post #132 » by **EventHorizon** » Fri Jul 4, 2008 12:44 am

Well I updated the salaries and adjusted for Calderon's speculated first year salary and Roko's, and the amount under the luxury tax is 1,853,781 give or take. Most likely the tax threshold will be a little higher so we approximately have 2 million at our disposal.

If we could somehow, shake off two or 3 more million, we could make an offer to J. R. Smith, looks like a player with upside and wont be too expensive, plus Denver is already waist deep in luxury tax.

I would also like to comment on the Adams signing, I know it wasn't too bad, but he looks like a filler type of a guy with no real upside. A similar player with more upside would be Shannon Brown from Chicago. 22 years old with genuine potential to be a solid NBA player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K-X-OxMJz8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFLJiXfX9qc

kavan · Post #133 » by **kavan** » Fri Jul 4, 2008 3:15 pm

This looks very promising the luxery tax and all we have alot of money to spend in another 2 years where BC will have a good look at how Jose Bargs Moon and even Bosh is doing to get a good idea of how wel this team can play and what needs to be done.

dagger · Post #134 » by **dagger** » Fri Jul 4, 2008 3:19 pm

EventHorizon wrote:Well I updated the salaries and adjusted for Calderon's speculated first year salary and Roko's, and the amount under the luxury tax is 1,853,781 give or take. Most likely the tax threshold will be a little higher so we approximately have 2 million at our disposal.

If we could somehow, shake off two or 3 more million, we could make an offer to J. R. Smith, looks like a player with upside and wont be too expensive, plus Denver is already waist deep in luxury tax.

I would also like to comment on the Adams signing, I know it wasn't too bad, but he looks like a filler type of a guy with no real upside. A similar player with more upside would be Shannon Brown from Chicago. 22 years old with genuine potential to be a solid NBA player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K-X-OxMJz8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFLJiXfX9qc

It's not so easy to shake off $2-3 million in this league unless you are bribing teams with draft picks or the player or players you want to shake off have real value to other teams. We could probably "shake off" Moon's $711,000 in a heartbeat, but Joey's $2.5 million would be a lot tougher. And some of the money left has to go to a point guard, so I think you should discount the J.R. Smith scenario. For that matter, I don't see BC acquiring Smith if we had $10 million to spend.

Post #135 » by **itbobby007** » Fri Jul 4, 2008 5:49 pm

Dagger, time to bring back your JR Smith thread from a while back....

takingitall · Post #136 » by **takingitall** » Sat Jul 5, 2008 1:19 am

I can't seem to find it anywhere out there so I will ask here. Hopefully someine knows. Do we still have the MLE. And if so can we use it to get a SG or at least a decent backup?

EventHorizon · Post #137 » by **EventHorizon** » Sat Jul 5, 2008 1:22 am

We don't know 100%. It depends what type of contract Ukic signed. As it stands right now, most likely we do not have the full MLE. But we need to wait for all contract details.

Dynasty93 · Post #138 » by **Dynasty93** » Sun Jul 6, 2008 6:41 pm

^^ I thought you didn't need to use any of your MLE for your draft picks?

EventHorizon · Post #139 » by **EventHorizon** » Sun Jul 6, 2008 8:13 pm

Calderon was a draft pick, yet he came over he signed for about 1.5 mil. This counts towards luxury tax.

Exar Kun · Post #140 » by **Exar Kun** » Mon Jul 7, 2008 1:47 pm

EventHorizon wrote:Calderon was a draft pick, yet he came over he signed for about 1.5 mil. This counts towards luxury tax.

Calderon was never drafted by an NBA team. He came over as a free agent.