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Tofubeque wrote:I've seen Buzelis as high as #1 and thought those mocks were crazy, but watched some of his film and wondering if we're underrating him vs Holland. Could be a legit 6'10 who plays through contact well, has midrange game, had a crazy 2.1 blocks which was 7th in the GLeague, also passed and stole a bit. I'm guessing the big knock on him is the .273 3P%, .679 FT%. "Will he learn to shoot" seems like the question with most of the lottery. He at least upped it to .769 FT in 9 GLeague Showcase games, and .603 from 2pt range, although his 3s got even worse.

If he's another player who's best going to the basket, maybe that overlaps with Scottie and RJ even more. But I like getting a big 3/4 with potential to stretch it out. Also like Salaun if he makes it to 19. Yearning for vision 6'9" again lol

DreamTeam09 wrote:

Yallbecrazy wrote:

DreamTeam09 wrote:
I don't think I've even seen Murray-Boyles name before and you have him 2nd. Why am I out the loop lol

I got him #1, but there's a good chance he returns to school so people aren't talking about him a lot as they don't want to hype a guy who goes back.

He seems to be very good to elite at everything for a wing except outside shooting where he's pretty bad. He played a lot of PF and C as an undersized 6'7 guy who ended up posting excellent assist numbers, low turnovers, very good rebounding numbers, and excellent rim and post shot fg%, as well as drawing a lot of fouls, but only shooting 65% from the line. Also a lot of steals and blocks and projects as both a good team and individual defender who can guard a lot of positions.
Some see him as an undersized big, but as one of the youngest players in the draft (if he enters) with an advanced feel for the game I hope he can develop his shot(form looks fine) and then you have a potential superstar on your hands.

He went 1/8 on jump shots the whole season including 0/5 from 3, so if the shot doesn't come around you have to wonder how he fits. Perhaps a better passing and defending Rondae Hollis Jefferson.

Checked his highlights/footage, he'll be a defensive studd. Can stay infront of anyone on the switch. Didn't see him shoot tho lol. Solid. He should go back

Rapsfan07 wrote:

Mark_83 wrote:If I'm the Raptors Holland is the guy I want if we keep our pick and it isn't #1. He's one of the rare prospects in this draft who has both a high floor and a high ceiling. He's got the prototype physical attributes and athleticism for a wing, he's got an incredible motor on defense, and a well-rounded, albeit unrefined, offensive package.

Yep.

Something tells me that by the time the combine rolls around and drills and all that, Holland will end up in the Top 5.

I'm hoping that isn't the case though, or that we can move up high enough in the draft to take him. He's by no means a finished product... I think he'll take a few years to come around but as you said - he's the closest thing to a complete package available at that part in the draft.

I like Dillingham as well... I think he's going to be a stud like Maxey but since we already have Quickley, it doesn't make much sense taking him. The Spurs should though, perhaps even over Topic.

DreamTeam09 wrote:

Tofubeque wrote:I've seen Buzelis as high as #1 and thought those mocks were crazy, but watched some of his film and wondering if we're underrating him vs Holland. Could be a legit 6'10 who plays through contact well, has midrange game, had a crazy 2.1 blocks which was 7th in the GLeague, also passed and stole a bit. I'm guessing the big knock on him is the .273 3P%, .679 FT%. "Will he learn to shoot" seems like the question with most of the lottery. He at least upped it to .769 FT in 9 GLeague Showcase games, and .603 from 2pt range, although his 3s got even worse.

If he's another player who's best going to the basket, maybe that overlaps with Scottie and RJ even more. But I like getting a big 3/4 with potential to stretch it out. Also like Salaun if he makes it to 19. Yearning for vision 6'9" again lol

I'm higher on him than I've seen from other posters around here. Or atleast I'm not out on him and can see the appeal

ATLTimekeeper wrote:Buzelis was a good shooter in high school. Adjusting to the NBA line as a teenager is not easy. More concerning are low rebound, low FTr for a big. He projects as a role player to me. Like Castle, you take that guy a little further down in the draft.

LoveMyRaps wrote:

Rapsfan07 wrote:

WuTang_OG wrote:At 19 they are going to take a need/talented player. Carter likely not there but if he is they taking him

As they should. Dude is going to be a solid NBA role player at the very least.

too bad he won't be there. there's already a massive shortage of 3&D guys in this draft. I won't be surprised if Carter goes as a high as 10. his stock will probably rise a ton during the combine.

Rapsfan07 wrote:

LoveMyRaps wrote:

Rapsfan07 wrote:
As they should. Dude is going to be a solid NBA role player at the very least.

too bad he won't be there. there's already a massive shortage of 3&D guys in this draft. I won't be surprised if Carter goes as a high as 10. his stock will probably rise a ton during the combine.

I agree with you man. Completely.

grant101 wrote:

Rapsfan07 wrote:

LoveMyRaps wrote:
too bad he won't be there. there's already a massive shortage of 3&D guys in this draft. I won't be surprised if Carter goes as a high as 10. his stock will probably rise a ton during the combine.

I agree with you man. Completely.

I agree that Carter is likely gone by 19, but disagree that there is a shortage of 3&D guys (also, Carter is more than a 3&D guard). There are a ton of intriguing 3&D wings in this draft (Watkins, Isaiah Crawford, Tyon Grant-Foster, Nique Clifford, Alex Karaban, Mccullar, Pelle Larsson, Harrison Ingram, Keshad Johnson, Trevon Brazile, etc.)

Mark_83 wrote:My semi-realistic dream draft:

6) Holland
19) Carter
31) Holmes
UDFA: Isaiah Crawford / Jalen Bridges

Barnes - Holmes
Holland - Agbaji - Crawford
Poeltl - Olynyk
Barrett - Dick
Quickley - Carter

grant101 wrote:

Mark_83 wrote:My semi-realistic dream draft:

6) Holland
19) Carter
31) Holmes
UDFA: Isaiah Crawford / Jalen Bridges

Barnes - Holmes
Holland - Agbaji - Crawford
Poeltl - Olynyk
Barrett - Dick
Quickley - Carter

This would be an unbelievable haul! Where do I sign?

Risk101 wrote:The more and more I look into this draft the more I see so many Anthony Bennett's. If we don't get top 6 I won't be sweating it at all. You have a higher chance hitting a landmine than striking gold.

billy_hoyle wrote:

grant101 wrote:

Mark_83 wrote:My semi-realistic dream draft:

6) Holland
19) Carter
31) Holmes
UDFA: Isaiah Crawford / Jalen Bridges

Barnes - Holmes
Holland - Agbaji - Crawford
Poeltl - Olynyk
Barrett - Dick
Quickley - Carter

This would be an unbelievable haul! Where do I sign?

I would love this.

As an aside, I can't help but notice that Brown, GTJ an Nwora don't even figure into the rotation.

Could you add an additional contributor in FA?

Claxton, Melton and even Monk seem like fits.