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Thaddy wrote:

CazOnReal wrote:Re: Poeltl if we get Sarr

I don't think Jakob would be an immediate trade candidate since you could run in to the same scenario as the Blazers where you take the unknown over the known i.e. Ant is just straight up better than Scoot and while he's probably more valuable, trading Ant could backfire if Scoot never develops into a franchise PG. If the right offer comes around then sure, trade Jakob but I think you'll want to see how Sarr performs in Summer League - if not, the preseason at minimum - before you trade Poeltl.

The same goes for Missi, Clingan or Chomche though I think it goes without saying the expectations for all 3 of those guys are significantly lower i.e. if Yves can give you a good 15-20 minutes at the 5 and Scottie or whomever takes over the remaining center minutes as a small ball 5 then you're getting that Bench Mob: The New Generation together ahead of schedule.

One other thing with Sarr is that his position in the NBA is...ambiguous for now? I think there's a world where you play him at the 4 like the Grizzlies do JJJ but it depends a lot on if he can translate his midrange game into a competent outside shot diet. I'd compare him to Evan Mobley as a prospect though he's less promising defensively than Evan was and further ahead offensively. Also not as good a ball handler but I digress.

I will say I waffle back and forth between trading Jakob and not so if you asked me this a different day then you might get a different response.

Sarr probably isn't even top 5 on Masai's draft board. I would guess he's ranking Buzelis, Holland, and Risacher higher based on their offense and physical profile.

Thaddy wrote:

CazOnReal wrote:Re: Poeltl if we get Sarr

I don't think Jakob would be an immediate trade candidate since you could run in to the same scenario as the Blazers where you take the unknown over the known i.e. Ant is just straight up better than Scoot and while he's probably more valuable, trading Ant could backfire if Scoot never develops into a franchise PG. If the right offer comes around then sure, trade Jakob but I think you'll want to see how Sarr performs in Summer League - if not, the preseason at minimum - before you trade Poeltl.

The same goes for Missi, Clingan or Chomche though I think it goes without saying the expectations for all 3 of those guys are significantly lower i.e. if Yves can give you a good 15-20 minutes at the 5 and Scottie or whomever takes over the remaining center minutes as a small ball 5 then you're getting that Bench Mob: The New Generation together ahead of schedule.

One other thing with Sarr is that his position in the NBA is...ambiguous for now? I think there's a world where you play him at the 4 like the Grizzlies do JJJ but it depends a lot on if he can translate his midrange game into a competent outside shot diet. I'd compare him to Evan Mobley as a prospect though he's less promising defensively than Evan was and further ahead offensively. Also not as good a ball handler but I digress.

I will say I waffle back and forth between trading Jakob and not so if you asked me this a different day then you might get a different response.

Sarr probably isn't even top 5 on Masai's draft board. I would guess he's ranking Buzelis, Holland, and Risacher higher based on their offense and physical profile.

Rapsfan07 wrote:

Thaddy wrote:

CazOnReal wrote:Re: Poeltl if we get Sarr

I don't think Jakob would be an immediate trade candidate since you could run in to the same scenario as the Blazers where you take the unknown over the known i.e. Ant is just straight up better than Scoot and while he's probably more valuable, trading Ant could backfire if Scoot never develops into a franchise PG. If the right offer comes around then sure, trade Jakob but I think you'll want to see how Sarr performs in Summer League - if not, the preseason at minimum - before you trade Poeltl.

The same goes for Missi, Clingan or Chomche though I think it goes without saying the expectations for all 3 of those guys are significantly lower i.e. if Yves can give you a good 15-20 minutes at the 5 and Scottie or whomever takes over the remaining center minutes as a small ball 5 then you're getting that Bench Mob: The New Generation together ahead of schedule.

One other thing with Sarr is that his position in the NBA is...ambiguous for now? I think there's a world where you play him at the 4 like the Grizzlies do JJJ but it depends a lot on if he can translate his midrange game into a competent outside shot diet. I'd compare him to Evan Mobley as a prospect though he's less promising defensively than Evan was and further ahead offensively. Also not as good a ball handler but I digress.

I will say I waffle back and forth between trading Jakob and not so if you asked me this a different day then you might get a different response.

Sarr probably isn't even top 5 on Masai's draft board. I would guess he's ranking Buzelis, Holland, and Risacher higher based on their offense and physical profile.

Only way we end up with Sarr is if we manage to jump up and grab the #1 pick. If that does happen then yes, I wouldn't think twice about moving Poeltl to the Grizzlies and taking back #8 and some salary in order to take Holland if he is still on the board.

CazOnReal wrote:Re: Poeltl if we get Sarr

I don't think Jakob would be an immediate trade candidate since you could run in to the same scenario as the Blazers where you take the unknown over the known i.e. Ant is just straight up better than Scoot and while he's probably more valuable, trading Ant could backfire if Scoot never develops into a franchise PG. If the right offer comes around then sure, trade Jakob but I think you'll want to see how Sarr performs in Summer League - if not, the preseason at minimum - before you trade Poeltl.

The same goes for Missi, Clingan or Chomche though I think it goes without saying the expectations for all 3 of those guys are significantly lower i.e. if Yves can give you a good 15-20 minutes at the 5 and Scottie or whomever takes over the remaining center minutes as a small ball 5 then you're getting that Bench Mob: The New Generation together ahead of schedule.

One other thing with Sarr is that his position in the NBA is...ambiguous for now? I think there's a world where you play him at the 4 like the Grizzlies do JJJ but it depends a lot on if he can translate his midrange game into a competent outside shot diet. I'd compare him to Evan Mobley as a prospect though he's less promising defensively than Evan was and further ahead offensively. Also not as good a ball handler but I digress.

I will say I waffle back and forth between trading Jakob and not so if you asked me this a different day then you might get a different response.

OakleyDokely wrote:For the 15th consecutive season, I have declared for the NBA draft.

DG88 wrote:

OakleyDokely wrote:For the 15th consecutive season, I have declared for the NBA draft.

What's your agent saying your range is

OakleyDokely wrote:

DG88 wrote:

OakleyDokely wrote:For the 15th consecutive season, I have declared for the NBA draft.

What's your agent saying your range is

61 - 1,000,000,000

WuTang_OG wrote:il be shocked if we dont come out of draft with a back up pg across 6?, 19, 31

team needs it

OakleyDokely wrote:

DG88 wrote:

OakleyDokely wrote:For the 15th consecutive season, I have declared for the NBA draft.

What's your agent saying your range is

61 - 1,000,000,000

Thaddy wrote:

WuTang_OG wrote:il be shocked if we dont come out of draft with a back up pg across 6?, 19, 31

team needs it

Wouldn't that affect Barnes development?

Thaddy wrote:

WuTang_OG wrote:il be shocked if we dont come out of draft with a back up pg across 6?, 19, 31

team needs it

Wouldn't that affect Barnes development?

Psubs wrote:

Thaddy wrote:

WuTang_OG wrote:il be shocked if we dont come out of draft with a back up pg across 6?, 19, 31

team needs it

Wouldn't that affect Barnes development?

I guess Stephon Castle fits as someone that can guard SG's and PG's. Really a POA defender like Bruce Brown, but he plays like a SF. Castle has the handles and A/T of a combo guard. I am good with Castle like a Marcus Smart.

koolguy wrote:Tyler Smith would fit nicely with the raps and is projected to be around late first round. Decent athlete/motor, can shoot 3s well (NBA range), and has good size who can develop into a stretch 4/5. Used to be guard but had a late growth spurt so still has ways to go as a big. Worth taking a shot due to his age and potential, and I think his weaknesses can be developed over time: strength/finishing touch at the rim/left hand.