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Raptorfan2012 wrote:

Syd-TK3 wrote:Lol ofcourse we get 19
There goes the McCain or Carter dream

That’s not much of a dream, at least not mine.

We can do better anyway. Guaranteed.

ArthurVandelay wrote:I’m liking Tyler Smith more and more at 19.

Def legit.

bballsparkin wrote:

ArthurVandelay wrote:I’m liking Tyler Smith more and more at 19.

That's the positive twist I tell myself. Dropping to 19th might force them to take an upside swing like him.

Or, Collier if he drops.

bballsparkin wrote:

ArthurVandelay wrote:I’m liking Tyler Smith more and more at 19.

That's the positive twist I tell myself. Dropping to 19th might force them to take an upside swing like him.

There is no real outcome difference that moves any conceivable dial going from 16-19. Just have to plug a hole successfully with the pick or have an upside player like Collier fall to us. Safe pick w/be da Silva. The only centres I would bet on are Sarr, Clingan or Edey. Tyler Smith would be a good pick here for sure. If we swing for fences might as well pick Furphy.

Seems like a Edey spot to fill the backup C spot. Yak can mentor him.

That pushes Olynyk to the bench PF role which is better.

Raptorfan2012 wrote:

Syd-TK3 wrote:Lol ofcourse we get 19
There goes the McCain or Carter dream

That’s not much of a dream, at least not mine.

And what is yours

Tripod wrote:Seems like a Edey spot to fill the backup C spot. Yak can mentor him.

That pushes Olynyk to the bench PF role which is better.

If we stay in the top 6, Edey makes a lot more sense at 19 (if he's still around).

Top 6 pick, Edey and the 31st pick is a good start at building a bench.

Duffman100 wrote:Top 6 pick, Edey and the 31st pick is a good start at building a bench.

Agree. This is a good spot to build some of the depth we've been sorely missing the last few seasons.

Offseason just started and the Raptors with another loss - hope this isn't a harbinger of things to come - Spurs get the 7th pick?

Syd-TK3 wrote:

Raptorfan2012 wrote:

Syd-TK3 wrote:Lol ofcourse we get 19
There goes the McCain or Carter dream

That’s not much of a dream, at least not mine.

And what is yours

lol everyone always over plays the bad, I guarantee 100% one of carter or McCain will be there.

If we really wanted to move up, there are a number of teams ahead of us like Miami that would most likely jump at moving down a few spots to dump salary.

Zeno wrote:If we really wanted to move up, there are a number of teams ahead of us like Miami that would most likely jump at moving down a few spots to dump salary.

Works for me. Would love Edey at this Pacers or flipped position. I did tankathon a got 6th almost never. I mostly got 1-2-3-4 and bounced I was bounced half the dice rolls. It kept giving Sarr Risacher Topic and Sheppard 1-4. Kept giving me Missi at Pacers. No centres unless Clingan oe Edey.

I can’t be alone here but for the life of me, I don’t understand the Edey love. I can’t see his game translating to the NBA at all.

goinrogue wrote:I can’t be alone here but for the life of me, I don’t understand the Edey love. I can’t see his game translating to the NBA at all.

@ 19, Edey has a very good chance to be the BPA at that spot.

Raptorfan2012 wrote:

goinrogue wrote:I can’t be alone here but for the life of me, I don’t understand the Edey love. I can’t see his game translating to the NBA at all.

@ 19, Edey has a very good chance to be the BPA at that spot.

Agree to disagree

Ha, had to be 19.

Although it's way too early to be talking about tiers, especially in a draft like this where workouts, measurements and interviews will be so important.

Raptorfan2012 wrote:

goinrogue wrote:I can’t be alone here but for the life of me, I don’t understand the Edey love. I can’t see his game translating to the NBA at all.

@ 19, Edey has a very good chance to be the BPA at that spot.

I think the issue is that his skills do not look like they will fare well in the modern NBA.

Depending on the players drafted in the #11 to #18 range, any of the following could be available for the Raptors to choose at #19:

GUARDS:

Isaiah Collier, 6'4", 205 lbs, G, USC
Jared McCain, 6'3", 195 lbs, G, Duke
Devin Carter, 6'3", 195 lbs, G, Providence
Carlton Carrington, 6'5", 190 lbs, G, Pittsburgh
Ja'Kobe Walter, 6'5", 195 lbs, G, Baylor
Kyshawn George, 6'8", 205 lbs, G, Miami

WINGS/FORWARDS:

Tidjane Salaun, 6'10', 205 lbs, F, Cholet (France)
Tyler Smith, 6'11", 225 lbs, F, G League Ignite
Collin Murray-Boyles, 6'7", 235 lbs, F, South Carolina
Johnny Furphy, 6'9", 205 lbs, F, Kansas
Tristan daSilva, 6'9", 220 lbs, F, Colorado
Dalton Knecht, 6'6", 215 lbs, F, Tennessee

CENTERS:

Kyle Filipowski, 7'0", 230 lbs, C, Duke
Kel'el Ware, 7'0", 210 lbs, C, Indiana
Yves Missi, 7'0", 235 lbs, C, Baylor
Ulrich Chomche, 6'11", 235 lbs, F/C, NBA Academy Africa

Given those options, our ability to draft and develop players; I'm hopeful we'll be able to grab a player at #19 who can contribute to the team as a part of the 9-man rotation both next season and throughout their rookie deal.

dohboy_24 wrote:Depending on the players drafted in the #11 to #18 range, any of the following could be available for the Raptors to choose at #19:

GUARDS:

Isaiah Collier, 6'4", 205 lbs, G, USC
Jared McCain, 6'3", 195 lbs, G, Duke
Devin Carter, 6'3", 195 lbs, G, Providence
Carlton Carrington, 6'5", 190 lbs, G, Pittsburgh
Ja'Kobe Walter, 6'5", 195 lbs, G, Baylor
Kyshawn George, 6'8", 205 lbs, G, Miami

WINGS/FORWARDS:

Tidjane Salaun, 6'10', 205 lbs, F, Cholet (France)
Tyler Smith, 6'11", 225 lbs, F, G League Ignite
Collin Murray-Boyles, 6'7", 235 lbs, F, South Carolina
Johnny Furphy, 6'9", 205 lbs, F, Kansas
Tristan daSilva, 6'9", 220 lbs, F, Colorado
Dalton Knecht, 6'6", 215 lbs, F, Tennessee

CENTERS:

Kyle Filipowski, 7'0", 230 lbs, C, Duke
Kel'el Ware, 7'0", 210 lbs, C, Indiana
Yves Missi, 7'0", 235 lbs, C, Baylor
Ulrich Chomche, 6'11", 235 lbs, F/C, NBA Academy Africa

Given those options, our ability to draft and develop players; I'm hopeful we'll be able to grab a player at #19 who can contribute to the team as a part of the 9-man rotation both next season and throughout their rookie deal.

Good post / I'm pretty sure we'll be selecting someone from this group. I wanted Salaun but I don't think he'll be there, I like one of the guards or a big in Ware / Missi. Furphy is also intriguing as another GD clone. Having two movement shooter specialist could be cool

DreamTeam09 wrote:

Syd-TK3 wrote:

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
That’s not much of a dream, at least not mine.

And what is yours

lol everyone always over plays the bad, I guarantee 100% one of carter or McCain will be there.

I give Carter a chance to be there but not McCain.

We all know how valuable shooting is in this league & he's a Duke recruit, teams will know him quite extensively. I just don't see him making it past NOP when he's a near perfect fit for them when Zion is healthy. If ATL does in fact trade Trae to anyone other than SAS it would likely be the Lakers (I think NOP will let LA have this year's and take next year's instead)....ORL would LOVE to have some shooting to spread the floor for Paolo & Franz -- I just don't see him falling past all of that to us but if he does we better snatch him up! Because he's a lights out shooter who would essentially clone a lot of what IQ does so should make for a fairly seamless blend into the rotation.

I'd still really like Carter as a backup. I just think McCain would have more potential to push IQ for a starting spot long term but DC to me just seems like one of the rock solid rotation guys that usually the Heat would pick up lol. I give him a chance to slide through because of course MIA will likely end up draft Collier as he's a Heat type of player too but with more potential but I don't think the other franchises between them & us believe in multi year players as much & he's not the level of shooter Jared is that those teams would mainly want him for.

I would still be pretty happy with Carter but I'll probably be a lot more open to entertaining taking other players ie/ Ware, Salaun, Walter, Carrington etc because I don't think his ceiling is quite as high and personally if we don't retain our pick, I don't think it's good enough to have a season like we just had, to use our first on obtaining a backup and not aiming a bit higher to try and draft someone who can be a long term starter but again I wouldn't be upset if we took DC.