2024 Playoffs Discussion Thread

[WaltFrazier]

brunson's legs are gone. at a certain point just save it for game 5

Hart averaging 46.5 MPG is absolutely absurd and Brunson's 42 MPG is also ridiculously high. All of the main Knicks should be taking the 2nd half off. There is no point in trying to come back from a 28-point halftime deficit when tip-off for game 5 – which likely decides the series – is ~50 hours away.

Funny how the extra travel day between cities has disappeared in this series

[pingpongrac]

Refs in game 3 gave that game to Pacers or it would 3-0 now.

What about the refs gift-wrapping game 1 for the Knicks when they made that egregious kicked ball call which immediately led to a 5-point swing in favour of NYK in a tie game in the final minute though? It should probably be 3-1 for the Pacers after today lol.

[mdenny]

brunson's legs are gone. at a certain point just save it for game 5

Hart averaging 46.5 MPG is absolutely absurd and Brunson's 42 MPG is also ridiculously high. All of the main Knicks should be taking the 2nd half off. There is no point in trying to come back from a 28-point halftime deficit when tip-off for game 5 – which likely decides the series – is ~50 hours away.

Yah. I think most coaches would just sit Brunson at this point. Use the rest of the half experimenting with some bench players. See if anyone could serve a legit role (maybe a specific matchup or whatever) going forward.

[WaltFrazier]

Refs in game 3 gave that game to Pacers or it would 3-0 now.

What about the refs gift-wrapping game 1 for the Knicks when they made that egregious kicked ball call which immediately led to a 5-point swing in favour of NYK in a tie game in the final minute though? It should probably be 3-1 for the Pacers after today lol.

But the moving screen on Turner was correct call. Brunson been getting fouled all series by full court pressing. Missed goaltend call on divincenzo drive game 3 was as impactful as the kickball. You could tell game three refs were responding to Carlyle's rant after game 2.

And the crazy thing is Pacers doing all this whining against an injury depleted team. But we'll see game 5 what happens. It's crazy the game is Tuesday not Wednesday. That hurts NY. Thibs needs to rest guys right now but I don't think he's wired that way

[Brinbe]

knicks fans learning the downsides of a thibs-coached team

[GoRapstheoriginal]

Can I turn this off now? IDK what I feel like doing else though....

[mdenny]

Fact is.....the knicks offense is a one trick Pony with the Brunson isos. The pacers can win in multiple ways. Their bench can win a game. Siakam can win a game. Haliburton can win a game.

[Scase]

Fact is.....the knicks offense is a one trick Pony with the Brunson isos. The pacers can win in multiple ways. Their bench can win a game. Siakam can win a game. Haliburton can win a game.

My friend, the Knicks are shooting 13% from 3, this isn't about Brunson. Pacers are shooting 47% from 3 and 60% from the floor, this is just the top rated offence clicking for a game. Broken clock etc etc

[mdenny]

Fact is.....the knicks offense is a one trick Pony with the Brunson isos. The pacers can win in multiple ways. Their bench can win a game. Siakam can win a game. Haliburton can win a game.

My friend, the Knicks are shooting 13% from 3, this isn't about Brunson. Pacers are shooting 47% from 3 and 60% from the floor, this is just the top rated offence clicking for a game. Broken clock etc etc

If you include shots that he's fouled on....Brunson is averaging more than 30 shot attempts per game. It's a one trick Pony offense.

One could point out that Randle is injured. But I'm not even sure that would've helped the knicks. Brunson was actually scoring at an amazing clip in his isos. If you exchange those isos for some Randle shots....you might've ended up with less points.

They need another good offensive creator.

[Scase]

Fact is.....the knicks offense is a one trick Pony with the Brunson isos. The pacers can win in multiple ways. Their bench can win a game. Siakam can win a game. Haliburton can win a game.

My friend, the Knicks are shooting 13% from 3, this isn't about Brunson. Pacers are shooting 47% from 3 and 60% from the floor, this is just the top rated offence clicking for a game. Broken clock etc etc

If you include shots that he's fouled on....Brunson is averaging more than 30 shot attempts per game. It's a one trick Pony offense.

One could point out that Randle is injured. But I'm not even sure that would've helped the knicks. Brunson was actually scoring at an amazing clip in his isos. If you exchange those isos for some Randle shots....you might've ended up with less points.

They need another good offensive creator.

I dont disagree they need another offensive option, but I do not agree counting FTA as shots/game lol.

This is more about the injuries pilling up than anything else. They do need to move Randle though.

[UnderdogRaptors]

Nice win pacers 2 more left....

[mdenny]

My friend, the Knicks are shooting 13% from 3, this isn't about Brunson. Pacers are shooting 47% from 3 and 60% from the floor, this is just the top rated offence clicking for a game. Broken clock etc etc

If you include shots that he's fouled on....Brunson is averaging more than 30 shot attempts per game. It's a one trick Pony offense.

One could point out that Randle is injured. But I'm not even sure that would've helped the knicks. Brunson was actually scoring at an amazing clip in his isos. If you exchange those isos for some Randle shots....you might've ended up with less points.

They need another good offensive creator.

I dont disagree they need another offensive option, but I do not agree counting FTA as shots/game lol.

This is more about the injuries pilling up than anything else. They do need to move Randle though.

I'm not counting FTAs as shots. I'm counting shots he gets fouled on as shots (which don't count as attempts)

[Son Goku 25]

** the Pacers

[MiamiSPX]

Good old fashioned ass kicking. Looks good on them, Knicks fans have become insufferable again.

This won't be the last time OG isn't available for key game(s) so they better get used to this.

[Los_29]

Momentum has completely shifted. Excellent game from Indiana. This blowout might actually be good for the Knicks because they were able to rest their guys. They’ve been in super close games the entire playoffs. Regroup for Tuesday.

Pacers have really surprised me. This series could be 3-1 for the Pacers as game 1 had some really poor officiating.

[Scase]

If you include shots that he's fouled on....Brunson is averaging more than 30 shot attempts per game. It's a one trick Pony offense.

One could point out that Randle is injured. But I'm not even sure that would've helped the knicks. Brunson was actually scoring at an amazing clip in his isos. If you exchange those isos for some Randle shots....you might've ended up with less points.

They need another good offensive creator.

I dont disagree they need another offensive option, but I do not agree counting FTA as shots/game lol.

This is more about the injuries pilling up than anything else. They do need to move Randle though.

I'm not counting FTAs as shots. I'm counting shots he gets fouled on as shots (which don't count as attempts)

Ah sorry, didn't read that way. I still wouldn't count them, but I get your point.

[mdenny]

I dont disagree they need another offensive option, but I do not agree counting FTA as shots/game lol.

This is more about the injuries pilling up than anything else. They do need to move Randle though.

I'm not counting FTAs as shots. I'm counting shots he gets fouled on as shots (which don't count as attempts)

Ah sorry, didn't read that way. I still wouldn't count them, but I get your point.

The reason they are not usually counted is because that stat is used primarily to gage efficiency. But in my case....I'm trying to gauge how much of the offense is based on brunson's isos. And it's more than 30 shot attempts per game. I'm not saying Brunson hasn't been efficient. He definitely has. I'm saying that beyond the Brunson iso option.....the knicks have no other offense.

[Los_29]

I'm not counting FTAs as shots. I'm counting shots he gets fouled on as shots (which don't count as attempts)

Ah sorry, didn't read that way. I still wouldn't count them, but I get your point.

The reason they are not usually counted is because that stat is used primarily to gage efficiency. But in my case....I'm trying to gauge how much of the offense is based on brunson's isos. And it's more than 30 shot attempts per game. I'm not saying Brunson hasn't been efficient. He definitely has. I'm saying that beyond the Brunson iso option.....the knicks have no other offense.

Knicks are gritty and tough but they aren’t exactly exciting to watch. Their whole offense is Brunson and while he’s been incredible, not sure how much longer that can last. They could just as easily be down 3-1 in this series and Thibs is running his guys into the ground. Pacers might just be able to pull it off.

[Scase]

I'm not counting FTAs as shots. I'm counting shots he gets fouled on as shots (which don't count as attempts)

Ah sorry, didn't read that way. I still wouldn't count them, but I get your point.

The reason they are not usually counted is because that stat is used primarily to gage efficiency. But in my case....I'm trying to gauge how much of the offense is based on brunson's isos. And it's more than 30 shot attempts per game. I'm not saying Brunson hasn't been efficient. He definitely has. I'm saying that beyond the Brunson iso option.....the knicks have no other offense.

Does it matter though? If those are considered attempts, he's still hitting 85% of them, if ISOing works, it works. He shot pretty badly today, but I dont think the results are on him or the system. Just a bad game of everyone shooting like trash.

[sidsid]

Continued lack of confidence in KAT when he's needed. If he can only roll when the team is dominating it's going to be hard to pick this Wolves team as more of the game becomes high leverage throughout the playoffs. The opposite of Murray.