2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3

[ArthurVandelay]

Imagine sending Scottie there just to watch us give away our draft pick

This is the most likely scenario and, unless we get a top 4 pick, the most desirable one IMO . I just hope this board doesn't devolve into bitching and moaning over spillt milk if we lose the pick. It's so annoying. Yes, the Poeltl trade sucked. It's a sunk cost at this point.

No matter the outcome the only guarantee is bitching and moaning

[CazOnReal]

Thaddy is also talking like there's any chance in hell we're replicating this season's record despite it requiring 2 huge mid-season trades with no training camp for these players to build any chemistry (who are developing/getting better) THEN requiring our entire starting line up being out with injury or personal tragedies to cause a 15+L streak just to stay in 6th. There's no chance in hell that happens again and it's almost guaranteed that ATL & CHI will be worse when they try to trade their best players yet again (outside chance CHA is a bit better - they were a PlayIn team both years LaMelo was healthy).

This is the other thing people forget: We were in the race for a play-in seed with a middle of the pack SoS before Scottie went down and then Poeltl followed suit.

It took all of that and some sporadic injuries to Brown, Ochai, RJ and IQ just to get to the 6th best lottery odds from our original trajectory. This team has its flaws but it's very easy to imagine after 1-2 offseason moves and a training camp where they're in range for a play-in spot though whether that's the 9/10 spot or 7/8 is another matter entirely.

The only major factor in keeping our pick/conveying that has any relevance is the cap hit we'd take and that's if you assume the 4th or 6th pick in this draft (rookie salary starts at 8.8 million if assuming the 120% scale signing for 4th, 7.2 million for 6th) is actually comparable to the 10th or so pick next year (starting at $5.5 million), and frankly I value getting someone in the door now over waiting a year from now unless you can turn that cap space into a good free agent signing.

We need talent now. Getting RJ and Quickley has helped speed up a rebuild that's a year behind but we're still behind other teams who are filling out their own young cores.

[Duffman100]

Draft lottery in less than 24 hours!

[GP2]

Since when is the lottery on a Sunday afternoon?

[Tor_Raps]

I want to keep our pick so I'll totally be bringing out the pitchforks if we convey... just a heads up. Fingers crossed lol

[ArthurVandelay]

Since when is the lottery on a Sunday afternoon?

It’s back where it originally was. They use to do it real quick during half time of a playoff game.

But then it went to a Tuesday night prime time special.

Now it seems they are tying it into the combine.

Probably made the change back to Sunday as a result of players having to participate in the testing and drills at the combine, while scrimmaging remains optional.

Combine takes place Monday through the 19th.

[Basketball_Jones]

I’m terrified

[CazOnReal]

I’m terrified

Nice to meet you terrified!

[GP2]

Since when is the lottery on a Sunday afternoon?

It’s back where it originally was. They use to do it real quick during half time of a playoff game.

But then it went to a Tuesday night prime time special.

Now it seems they are tying it into the combine.

Probably made the change back to Sunday as a result of players having to participate in the testing and drills at the combine, while scrimmaging remains optional.

Combine takes place Monday through the 19th.

True. I do remember that. But this one is prime time for us!

[Potential]

I'm scared. It feels like a game 7 coming up tomorrow. I couldn't care less if we lose the pick. Spurs can have it in this weak draft. We'll see what we do with the 19th pick and if Masai can work his magic to get a steal. But I'm scared Scottie will feel like he's going there for no reason if we lose the pick and then Scottie might request a trade

[Son Goku 25]

I'd be more excited if weren't getting bodied by the spurs, that just ruins the fun for me.

Won't really be the real thing until the actual draft night and see who we come out with.

[ArthurVandelay]

I thought Brandon Miller would be a perfect compliment to Scottie last year. This year Risacher looks like that guy.

Miller was a 20 year old freshman last year.

I keep trying to project Risacher out 2 years and I think he can be as good or better.

[Vampirate]

I just want to get this whole will we/won't we keep the pick scenario over with.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I thought Brandon Miller would be a perfect compliment to Scottie last year. This year Risacher looks like that guy.

Miller was a 20 year old freshman last year.

I keep trying to project Risacher out 2 years and I think he can be as good or better.

I don't think Risacher as a 2nd year player will be anywhere near Miller's league in terms of competitiveness, on-ball juice or shotmaking that was displayed at Alabama. But I do like his defense and think he should be a good connective piece and does have at least some tricks to create a bit of separation. Not always a fan of his overall coordination when driving or displaying his limited bag.

Miller just cooks in a way Risacher can't.

[ArthurVandelay]

I thought Brandon Miller would be a perfect compliment to Scottie last year. This year Risacher looks like that guy.

Miller was a 20 year old freshman last year.

I keep trying to project Risacher out 2 years and I think he can be as good or better.

I don't think Risacher as a 2nd year player will be anywhere near Miller's league in terms of competitiveness, on-ball juice or shotmaking that was displayed at Alabama. But I do like his defense and think he should be a good connective piece and does have at least some tricks to create a bit of separation. Not always a fan of his overall coordination when driving or displaying his limited bag.

Miller just cooks in a way Risacher can't.

Risacher just turned 19 in April (born 2005). He competed most of this season as an 18 year old.

Miller competed as an older freshman at 20 years of age (birthday November 2002).

I’m not stating Risacher is as good as Miller last year at Alabama. I’m saying that with two more years experience under his belt Risacher could be as good or better.

Risacher definitely fits with Scottie and would also fit Darko’s style of play.

[CazOnReal]

I like Risacher's fit with Scottie.

He isn't like Miller beyond "good 3-point shooting" and being similarly slender for a wing prospect. His handle is not anywhere hear as good as Brandon so expect him to focus more on play finishing than self-create like Brandon does. Honestly, he reminds me more of O.G. or MPJ if Porter had All-Defense upside.

[Los_29]

I want to keep our pick so I'll totally be bringing out the pitchforks if we convey... just a heads up. Fingers crossed lol

You don't have to remind us. We know that regardless of the outcome you'll be whining about something. lol.

[Saul Goodman]

Just reminds us how awful that 2023 trade deadline was for the Raptors. Not trying to get top 3 on 2023 was an egregious error. Trading a f future 1st for Poetl was terrible.

That deadline could have set this team up for the next few years. Could have send Siakam for like 4 1sts to a team like Memphis and OG for like Kuminga/Moody (tho I like the Knicks trade).

[Tor_Raps]

I want to keep our pick so I'll totally be bringing out the pitchforks if we convey... just a heads up. Fingers crossed lol

You don't have to remind us. We know that regardless of the outcome you'll be whining about something. lol.

You make it sound like I'm whining about us having the 2024 Nuggets. Take a look at our team, if you're not whining about how we got to where we're at currently then I don't know what to say. Let's hope for some good news tomorrow so we can get back on track lol.

[CazOnReal]

Just reminds us how awful that 2023 trade deadline was for the Raptors. Not trying to get top 3 on 2023 was an egregious error. Trading a f future 1st for Poetl was terrible.

That deadline could have set this team up for the next few years. Could have send Siakam for like 4 1sts to a team like Memphis and OG for like Kuminga/Moody (tho I like the Knicks trade).

FWIW I could see Moody being moved on draft night if the Warriors want to duck the tax in the future (be it by avoiding Moody's extension or by using him in a salary dump of Chris Paul/Andrew Wiggins), if the Raptors want to let Trent walk and they prefer trading out of this year's draft. Moses has starter-level upside and his 3-point percentage when he's taking more than 6 3s is really high (44% thru 14 games).