Vince Carter elected to Hall of Fame // New Logo ? Pg. 5

Stromile12 · Post #21 » by **Stromile12** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:08 pm

Vincent Lamar Carter, onions baby

OakleyDokely · Post #22 » by **OakleyDokely** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:10 pm

Hall of Fame probability:

Lowry: 85.7%
Billups: 84.4%

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html

DelAbbot · Post #23 » by **DelAbbot** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:10 pm

Heir Canada

TheGeneral99 · Post #24 » by **TheGeneral99** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:12 pm

Billups is well deserved.

I would take Billups over VC any day of the week, but it was obvious VC was going to make it because of his longevity and being top 25 all-time in scoring.

Lowry should make it to the HOF for sure...his resume rivals Billups although Billups FMVP counts for a lot as well.

Billups - Champion, FMVP, 5 time all-star, 1 time all NBA 2nd team, 2 all NBA defense second teams.

Lowry - Champion, 6 time all-star, 1 time all NBA 3rd team, Olympic champion. Also Lowry is currently 21st all-time in assists, 13th all-time 3 pointers made, and 56th all-time in steals.

I wish they had an official stat for charges, because Lowry might be the greatest player of all time in taking charges.

anotherhomer · Post #25 » by **anotherhomer** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:16 pm

It's too bad vc left...but if you had peddie and babcock running the show then it's understandable

Mak · Post #26 » by **Mak** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:21 pm

Where does Billups rank in the best Raptors ever? lol

OakleyDokely · Post #27 » by **OakleyDokely** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:29 pm

TheGeneral99 · Post #28 » by **TheGeneral99** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:40 pm

Mak wrote:Where does Billups rank in the best Raptors ever? lol

As best Raptor or best player to wear a Raptor uniform?

In terms of best Raptor he's not even top 100...he played here for 29 games and was very underwhelming.

In terms of best player to a wear a Raptor uniform...he's probably top 10 alongside guys like Demar and Bosh.

Hakeem, Lowry, Kawhi, VC, McGrady, Demar, Bosh, Billups, Siakam, Gasol, O'Neal, Marion, and Camby are probably the best players to ever wear a Raptor uniform.

Kingsway_fan · Post #29 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 6:22 pm

GROAT Congrats Vince!!! Generational talent... top 5 all time NBA SCORER for a decade.. top 10 NBA all time 3 points made regular season ...

#15 Superstar

xAIRNESSx · Post #30 » by **xAIRNESSx** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 6:23 pm

Congrats to VC

ontnut · Post #31 » by **ontnut** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 6:54 pm

VC is deserved based on peak, national and international legacy, and longevity.

Billups is a little surprising imo, but understandable. He was pointgod before CP3 in those early 2000s. One of the best ever floor generals. Lowry is going to make it too.

Prestige · Post #32 » by **Prestige** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 7:05 pm

Well deserved. Will always be GROAT for me until we get a homegrown MVP caliber player.

Dennis 37 · Post #33 » by **Dennis 37** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 7:06 pm

Please move this to Former Raptor players.

Dennis 37 · Post #34 » by **Dennis 37** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 7:15 pm

anotherhomer wrote:It's too bad vc left...but if you had peddie and babcock running the show then it's understandable

Yes it is understandable he wanted out.

It is unforgivable that he tanked his trade value. Unforgivable. You don't forgive something for which there has been no apology.

OG and Pascal knew there were trade discussions. They never tanked their trade value to either avoid a trade and stay, or to put pressure on to speed up a trade.

Please don't post any, "I remember his dunk contest, or I've seen his dunk contest highlights, so I think his jersey should be retired," crap. And please don't post and, "put us on the map," crap. Putting us on the map plus a Roll up the Rim win will get your a coffee at Tim Hortons.

1 playoff series win does not get your jersey retired.

Dennis 37 · Post #35 » by **Dennis 37** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 7:18 pm

God Squad wrote:Vince Carter pretty much made me a Raptor fan. Lots of ups, plenty of downs. He pretty much made the Raptors "cool", regardless of what people say in retrospect.

I didn't say it in retrospect. I said it the exact day he started for New Jersey and we all realized we had been conned.

Mighty Mouse made the Raptors cool before Vince arrived.

Merit · Post #36 » by **Merit** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 7:21 pm

For all the challenges with Vince as he left, the fact that he's likely going into the hall with #15 in a Raps jersey, makes me really enjoy the fact that the Raps are retiring his number. There will never be another 2000's dunk contest or dunk over frederic weis again.

Merit · Post #37 » by **Merit** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 7:34 pm

Dennis 37 wrote:Please move this to Former Raptor players.

Nah. It deserves its own thread. Plus Vince said he's gonna choose the Raps as his jersey and he will be the first ever to go in the hall with a Raptors jersey on. It's big news IMO.

Merit · Post #38 » by **Merit** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 7:35 pm

PRESTIGE wrote:Well deserved. Will always be GROAT for me until we get a homegrown MVP caliber player.

Understood, but I'll be cheering just as hard for Lowry when he's inducted—and Demar too, if he ever gets in.

Side note: I'd welcome Demar back with open arms if he ever chose to return.

ThatClockWork · Post #39 » by **ThatClockWork** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 8:06 pm

Hopefully his Jersey gets retired here next. Shambles for the hater crowd.

D3158 · Post #40 » by **D3158** » Wed Apr 3, 2024 8:22 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
SFour wrote:Billups making it into the hof is good news for Lowry.....general board will be in shambles

haha! Can't wait for the GB reaction to this.

Sorry, I might be out of loop but how is Billups going to HOF good news for Lowry and why would GB be in shambles?

And yes, I am aware Billups played a big role when Lowry moved to play for the Raptors. Lowry was having 'trouble' accepting a backup PG role to Jose Calderone. Billups talked sense into Lowry. And Lowry flourished year after year.