Edey @ #32?

[disoblige]

from NBA draft discussion. Yea, he is probably be gone by 32.

Zach Edey 2023 NBA Combine:
Lane agility test: 11.37 seconds
3/4 court sprint test: 3.45 seconds

Steven Adams 2014 NBA Combine:
Lane agility test: 11.85 seconds
3/4 court sprint test: 3.40 seconds

Rudy Gobert 2014 NBA Combine:
Lane agility test: 12.85 seconds
3/4 court sprint test: 3.57 seconds

Brook Lopez 2009 NBA Combine:
Lane agility test: 12.77 seconds
3/4 court sprint test: 3.57 seconds

DeMarcus Cousins 2011 NBA Combine:
Lane agility test: 11.40 seconds
3/4 court sprint test: 3.55 seconds

Hassan Whiteside 2011 NBA Combine:
Lane agility test: 11.83 seconds
3/4 court sprint test: 3.54 seconds

Nikola Vucevic 2012 NBA Combine:
Lane agility test: 12.02 seconds
3/4 court sprint test: 3.27 seconds

Bobby Portis 2016 NBA Combine:
Lane agility test: 11.78 seconds
3/4 court sprint test: 3.56 seconds

Bam Adebayo 2018 NBA Combine:
Lane agility test: 11.94 seconds
3/4 court sprint test: 3.24 seconds

Nicolas Claxton 2020 NBA Combine:
Lane agility test: 11.26 seconds
3/4 court sprint test: 3.36 seconds

Xavier Tillman Sr 2021 NBA Combine:
Lane agility test: 11.80 seconds
3/4 court sprint test: 3.49 seconds

Tacko Fall 2020 NBA Combine:
Lane agility test: 13.01 seconds
3/4 court sprint test: 3.78 seconds

Edey's conditioning has improved since he completed these tests last spring. I am expecting that these numbers will probably be a little better this year.

So did everyone on this list. You know 11.3 is insane for a big guy. See this guy attempts
https://youtu.be/m3IsWbzqH2U?si=TkTF15zEOCayvGO7&t=262

[Randle McMurphy]

Have you seen our 5th worst shooter?

Oh, so we're talking about teams that are actively trying to lose games?

As I said, Edey would be a marvelous player to tank with. You'd be giving up expected points every single possession with him out there. Perfect for us.

Do you remember how Boston beat us in the playoffs? They made Gasol beat them shooting threes. It's the same thing.

Edey's just putting up threes the old fashioned way. He's going to massively out perform on the offensive end.

He'll be played off the floor defensively immediately in any game that actually matters at the NBA level. Even **** college teams with kids who are about to start working 9-5 jobs are able to exploit his mobility, just wait for when NBA guards (i.e. the best athletes on the planet) get him in space.

[TorontoBarneys]

Edey looks like a beast. Is there any potential for him developing a 3pt shot like Embiid did down the road?

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Oh, so we're talking about teams that are actively trying to lose games?

As I said, Edey would be a marvelous player to tank with. You'd be giving up expected points every single possession with him out there. Perfect for us.

Do you remember how Boston beat us in the playoffs? They made Gasol beat them shooting threes. It's the same thing.

Edey's just putting up threes the old fashioned way. He's going to massively out perform on the offensive end.

He'll be played off the floor defensively immediately in any game that actually matters at the NBA level. Even **** college teams with kids who are about to start working 9-5 jobs are able to exploit his mobility, just wait for when NBA guards (i.e. the best athletes on the planet) get him in space.

He's beating his man offensively, so how's that possible? That's the thing, he's not negative.

[MEDIC]

Edey looks like a beast. Is there any potential for him developing a 3pt shot like Embiid did down the road?

I believe so. Look at his shooting form from.last years NBA combine:

Watch on YouTube

[Randle McMurphy]

Do you remember how Boston beat us in the playoffs? They made Gasol beat them shooting threes. It's the same thing.

Edey's just putting up threes the old fashioned way. He's going to massively out perform on the offensive end.

He'll be played off the floor defensively immediately in any game that actually matters at the NBA level. Even **** college teams with kids who are about to start working 9-5 jobs are able to exploit his mobility, just wait for when NBA guards (i.e. the best athletes on the planet) get him in space.

He's beating his man offensively, so how's that possible? That's the thing, he's not negative.

The problem is that he won't even be able to survive defensively in this version of the NBA. Even if you somehow just fed him every possession (which NBA teams haven't done to any player in the post nearly two decades now) and he was incredibly efficient on such plays (which is no guarantee either, there are incredible athletes at this level who can better guard him straight up and trap him in the post than the unathletic kids he's been dominating for two years), he still has to be able to move laterally enough to prevent teams from getting layups or 3s against him. He won't be able to do that.

Given the lack of mobility he has, all he'll be able to do in the NBA is play drop coverage and that will result in open 3s on literally every possession. You simply can't win with that.

His role in the NBA is ultimately going to be as a spot minute big against other teams with less mobile/non shooting bigs. Not a bad career at all, but certainly not somebody I'd be wasting a meaningful draft pick on.

[disoblige]

I think it's not just the mobility that hurts him, but rather reaction time and how long it takes for him to jump. He looks like a BBQ chicken when he played against USA team.

[Randle McMurphy]

I think it's not the mobility that hurts him, but rather reaction time and how long it takes for him to jump. He looks like a BBQ chicken when he played against USA team

Well his lack of athleticism is clear, but his lateral movement is very poor by even NCAA standards. It's going to be very difficult to watch that in the spaced out, fast paced game of the NBA.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

He'll be played off the floor defensively immediately in any game that actually matters at the NBA level. Even **** college teams with kids who are about to start working 9-5 jobs are able to exploit his mobility, just wait for when NBA guards (i.e. the best athletes on the planet) get him in space.

He's beating his man offensively, so how's that possible? That's the thing, he's not negative.

The problem is that he won't even be able to survive defensively in this version of the NBA. Even if you somehow just fed him every possession (which NBA teams haven't done to any player in the post nearly two decades now) and he was incredibly efficient on such plays (which is no guarantee either, there are incredible athletes at this level who can better guard him straight up and trap him in the post than the unathletic kids he's been dominating for two years), he still has to be able to move laterally enough to prevent teams from getting layups or 3s against him. He won't be able to do that.

Given the lack of mobility he has, all he'll be able to do in the NBA is play drop coverage and that will result in open 3s on literally every possession. You simply can't win with that.

His role in the NBA is ultimately going to be as a spot minute big against other teams with less mobile/non shooting bigs. Not a bad career at all, but certainly not somebody I'd be wasting a meaningful draft pick on.

But again, his offense will keep him positive. Like, Derozan stays on the floor and shoots less ft's.

[Randle McMurphy]

He's beating his man offensively, so how's that possible? That's the thing, he's not negative.

The problem is that he won't even be able to survive defensively in this version of the NBA. Even if you somehow just fed him every possession (which NBA teams haven't done to any player in the post nearly two decades now) and he was incredibly efficient on such plays (which is no guarantee either, there are incredible athletes at this level who can better guard him straight up and trap him in the post than the unathletic kids he's been dominating for two years), he still has to be able to move laterally enough to prevent teams from getting layups or 3s against him. He won't be able to do that.

Given the lack of mobility he has, all he'll be able to do in the NBA is play drop coverage and that will result in open 3s on literally every possession. You simply can't win with that.

His role in the NBA is ultimately going to be as a spot minute big against other teams with less mobile/non shooting bigs. Not a bad career at all, but certainly not somebody I'd be wasting a meaningful draft pick on.

But again, his offense will keep him positive. Like, Derozan stays on the floor and shoots less ft's.

How? 3s>2s

Took a while but every NBA team has figured that out over the past few decades.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

The problem is that he won't even be able to survive defensively in this version of the NBA. Even if you somehow just fed him every possession (which NBA teams haven't done to any player in the post nearly two decades now) and he was incredibly efficient on such plays (which is no guarantee either, there are incredible athletes at this level who can better guard him straight up and trap him in the post than the unathletic kids he's been dominating for two years), he still has to be able to move laterally enough to prevent teams from getting layups or 3s against him. He won't be able to do that.

Given the lack of mobility he has, all he'll be able to do in the NBA is play drop coverage and that will result in open 3s on literally every possession. You simply can't win with that.

His role in the NBA is ultimately going to be as a spot minute big against other teams with less mobile/non shooting bigs. Not a bad career at all, but certainly not somebody I'd be wasting a meaningful draft pick on.

But again, his offense will keep him positive. Like, Derozan stays on the floor and shoots less ft's.

How? 3s>2s

Took a while but every NBA team has figured that out over the past few decades.

Derozan's gets like 8ft's a game. Edey will get 12+ at this level.

[Randle McMurphy]

But again, his offense will keep him positive. Like, Derozan stays on the floor and shoots less ft's.

How? 3s>2s

Took a while but every NBA team has figured that out over the past few decades.

Derozan's gets like 8ft's a game. Edey will get 12+ at this level.

Having DeRozan on the floor doesn't equate to giving up an open three every possession defensively (which is what playing Edey will accomplish against any NBA team that wants to play him off the floor).

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

How? 3s>2s

Took a while but every NBA team has figured that out over the past few decades.

Derozan's gets like 8ft's a game. Edey will get 12+ at this level.

Having DeRozan on the floor doesn't equate to giving up an open three every possession defensively (which is what playing Edey will do against any NBA team that wants to play him off the floor).

They basically play the same style, drawing fouls. Just Edey's way better at the drawing fouls part.

He's better defensively too.

[Randle McMurphy]

Derozan's gets like 8ft's a game. Edey will get 12+ at this level.

Having DeRozan on the floor doesn't equate to giving up an open three every possession defensively (which is what playing Edey will do against any NBA team that wants to play him off the floor).

They basically play the same style, drawing fouls. Just Edey's way better at the drawing fouls part.

He's better defensively too.

hahaha

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Having DeRozan on the floor doesn't equate to giving up an open three every possession defensively (which is what playing Edey will do against any NBA team that wants to play him off the floor).

They basically play the same style, drawing fouls. Just Edey's way better at the drawing fouls part.

He's better defensively too.

hahaha

Shaq got 10 fta at this level. For a comparable.

[Randle McMurphy]

They basically play the same style, drawing fouls. Just Edey's way better at the drawing fouls part.

He's better defensively too.

hahaha

Shaq got 10 fta at this level. For a comparable.

Edey=Shaq yes

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

hahaha

Shaq got 10 fta at this level. For a comparable.

Edey=Shaq yes

Actually, Edey's played less at this stage.

[Randle McMurphy]

Shaq got 10 fta at this level. For a comparable.

Edey=Shaq yes

Actually, Edey's played less at this stage.

And accomplished more

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Edey=Shaq yes

Actually, Edey's played less at this stage.

And accomplished more

He's like Siakam, he started late.

[mtcan]

Just found out Zach started playing organized basketball as a sophomore in high school. Prior to that, he played hockey and baseball. That clinches it. He's definitely a Masai-type of draft candidate.

He won't get as much paint touches as a pro but he'll be able to make what he gets. He'll help with rebounding especially offensive rebounding.

I think between the time at the end of the college season and draft season, he will have added some shooting...or at least glimpses of it. I think scouts will be surprised by the shooting at workouts and Edey will move up the board.

I look at Edey and compare to Christian Koloko's last season at Arizona. By every metric except for shot blocking, Zach has Koloko beat. And even with shot blocking...Zach averaged 2.5 bpg this season and Koloko at his best averaged 2.8 bpg.

Hometown kid, good kid from what it sounds like, started playing basketball late...tall boy (really tall boy)...yup...he is someone Masai would draft.

Watch on YouTube

Jay Bilas notices some improvement on his mobility from last season...so I think people see his post-dominant game and think he's not agile...and I think he will prove people wrong by draft workout season.

He has another step to take being a late bloomer. Being a former multi-sport athlete bodes well for his ability to pick up new things at the next level.