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Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay?

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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#41 » by DJ_RnC » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:23 am

Trading him and Lowry by the deadline
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#43 » by seanbig » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:50 am

Come on a ring?

Has any team had starting five with 5 all stars and 4 future hall of famers all in their prime?

Come on a ring?
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#44 » by RaptorsNorth » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:58 am

seanbig wrote:Come on a ring?

Has any team had starting five with 5 all stars and 4 future hall of famers all in their prime?

Come on a ring?
then you already set up yourself for a big disappointment.

I'd say finals tops. The Warriors are winning the championship again.

On paper this warriors team is even better than last seasons. These guys have allstars at every position and I just can't see them not winning another championship.

They're better than us at almost every position

Curry
Klay
KD
Green
Cousins

Thats a championship team on paper.
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#45 » by Johnny Bball » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:35 am

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omar36 wrote:nba finals or an actual ecf appearance thats competitive.

if he leaves, hope we can do a s & t get something back and plan the rebuild
this trade regardless for me will always be a win/win


How many times does this fact need to be refuted. We can NOT do sign and trades in the current CBA. We can only get something if we trade him before the deadline. Also let me tell you we ain’t getting anything of of substance from either of the LA teams when they can sign hi, outright and save assets.


What are you talking about. We can sign and trade and send out Leonard next summer. There’s nothing that prohibits that between the those two teams since LA is not above the apron, It’s likely of minimal advantage to KL2 and none to the Clippers to do so though.
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#46 » by MEDIC » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:58 pm

First off, I'll say that the ultimate success this season would be re-signing a healthy/ happy Kawhi to a long term deal & building from there (regardless of our performance on the court)

As far as having a successful season if Kawhi leaves......
For me it would be growth of the young guys. If Fred, Siakam, Wright & OG take their games to another level & one or two of them look to be trending towards allstar or borderline allstar, then that's a successful season to me. Our longevity depends on these guys.

As far as on court success goes. Our rental needs to lead us to the NBA final or its a failed season..
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#47 » by The Duke » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:04 pm

Ride or die, we ain't trading Kawhi
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#48 » by SurgeIblocka » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:27 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
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omar36 wrote:nba finals or an actual ecf appearance thats competitive.

if he leaves, hope we can do a s & t get something back and plan the rebuild
this trade regardless for me will always be a win/win


How many times does this fact need to be refuted. We can NOT do sign and trades in the current CBA. We can only get something if we trade him before the deadline. Also let me tell you we ain’t getting anything of of substance from either of the LA teams when they can sign hi, outright and save assets.


What are you talking about. We can sign and trade and send out Leonard next summer. There’s nothing that prohibits that between the those two teams since LA is not above the apron, It’s likely of minimal advantage to KL2 and none to the Clippers to do so though.


You need to review the new CBA. They changed the sign and trade option. You can no longer give the extra year and higher raises by signing and trading your player. So if traded the player would miss out on the 5th year and the extra amount on raises. Basically making sign and trades useless. A team with cap space would just outright sign the player.
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#49 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:24 pm

seanbig wrote:Come on a ring?

Has any team had starting five with 5 all stars and 4 future hall of famers all in their prime?

Come on a ring?


Which one of the all stars is a non future HOFer?
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Post#50 » by Costanza23 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:26 pm

RaptorsNorth wrote:
seanbig wrote:Come on a ring?

Has any team had starting five with 5 all stars and 4 future hall of famers all in their prime?

Come on a ring?
then you already set up yourself for a big disappointment.

I'd say finals tops. The Warriors are winning the championship again.

On paper this warriors team is even better than last seasons. These guys have allstars at every position and I just can't see them not winning another championship.

They're better than us at almost every position

Curry
Klay
KD
Green
Cousins

Thats a championship team on paper.



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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#51 » by omar36 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:16 am

SurgeIblocka wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
How many times does this fact need to be refuted. We can NOT do sign and trades in the current CBA. We can only get something if we trade him before the deadline. Also let me tell you we ain’t getting anything of of substance from either of the LA teams when they can sign hi, outright and save assets.


What are you talking about. We can sign and trade and send out Leonard next summer. There’s nothing that prohibits that between the those two teams since LA is not above the apron, It’s likely of minimal advantage to KL2 and none to the Clippers to do so though.


You need to review the new CBA. They changed the sign and trade option. You can no longer give the extra year and higher raises by signing and trading your player. So if traded the player would miss out on the 5th year and the extra amount on raises. Basically making sign and trades useless. A team with cap space would just outright sign the player.



could you provide a link for cba. honestly didnt know there were new rules. do you know what it was implemented?
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#52 » by Johnny Bball » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:38 am

SurgeIblocka wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
How many times does this fact need to be refuted. We can NOT do sign and trades in the current CBA. We can only get something if we trade him before the deadline. Also let me tell you we ain’t getting anything of of substance from either of the LA teams when they can sign hi, outright and save assets.


What are you talking about. We can sign and trade and send out Leonard next summer. There’s nothing that prohibits that between the those two teams since LA is not above the apron, It’s likely of minimal advantage to KL2 and none to the Clippers to do so though.


You need to review the new CBA. They changed the sign and trade option. You can no longer give the extra year and higher raises by signing and trading your player. So if traded the player would miss out on the 5th year and the extra amount on raises. Basically making sign and trades useless. A team with cap space would just outright sign the player.


No I dont need to review it. You need to either write better or stop guessing and reading it later. It doesn’t stop us signing and trading him, like I said. It just is of minimal or no advantage, like I said. For example, you cou.d do it with a cap hold player or cash and generate a TPE with a team that has cap space.
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#53 » by execoftheyear » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:47 am

Aside from the obvious finals appearance or championship, I would consider breakout seasons from 1 or more of our young guys a successful season. It would make losing Kawhi not as huge of a blow and would allow us to transition into rebuild mode seamlessly without having to go in full rebuild mode.
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#54 » by seanbig » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:45 am

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
seanbig wrote:Come on a ring?

Has any team had starting five with 5 all stars and 4 future hall of famers all in their prime?

Come on a ring?


Which one of the all stars is a non future HOFer?

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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#55 » by SaveTheHens » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:22 am

Make a nice Finals run and if Green fits the style of the team we re-sign him and try to trade or sign future disgruntled stars
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#56 » by SaveTheHens » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:25 am

RaptorsNorth wrote:
seanbig wrote:Come on a ring?

Has any team had starting five with 5 all stars and 4 future hall of famers all in their prime?

Come on a ring?
then you already set up yourself for a big disappointment.

I'd say finals tops. The Warriors are winning the championship again.

On paper this warriors team is even better than last seasons. These guys have allstars at every position and I just can't see them not winning another championship.

They're better than us at almost every position

Curry
Klay
KD
Green
Cousins

Thats a championship team on paper.

The beauty is we have a chance to out match their two best players in KD and Curry. Curry is more of a stretch but I believe Lowry can be a great supporting cast for a superstar and by the time we'd reach the Finals he'd get all the playoff jitters out. This all depends on Kawhi having an amazing season.
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#57 » by whoknows » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:15 pm

making finals and removing from Raptors both Casey & DD
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#58 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:37 pm

DJ_RnC wrote:Trading him and Lowry by the deadline


If we are getting the Bosh treatment then most definitely. I might deal him before the deadline.
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Post#59 » by Tacoma » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:58 pm

whoknows wrote:making finals and removing from Raptors both Casey & DD


Casey was gone before Kawhi. And I know DeRozan haters will disagree but a 2x All-NBA 4x All Star who led the Raptors to their best stretch of seasons ever, would be a very good trade value asset. We would not have gotten Kawhi without him and he would've gotten us very good value in any other trade had the Kawhi trade not happened.
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Re: Your definition of a successful season if Kawhi doesn't stay? 

Post#60 » by djsunyc » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:01 pm

ecf's would be great. finals would be unreal.

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