Grange: Bosh not a lock to make the allstar team.

[Mack11]

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so you telling me someone like kaman would not be selected over bosh?

Kaman plays in the West, but what point are you trying to make?

[Death Knight]

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That's not true actually. The coaches are required to select 2 reserve forwards, 2 reserve guards, 1 center and two wildcard players of any position.

There very may well be 6 forwards selected to the All Star game.

You're right, the 2 wild cards can be players at any position. Thanks for clearing it up.

[SpaceJam]

It's between Caron, RJ and CB4...No one has been playing better then Chris of the three so far. Lets see what happens in Mo Town.

Edit: and of course PP-Hedo has been playing nice, but not All-Star nice. Reshard Lew has been good too.

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At this point After KG and Lebron. Paul Pierce and Caron Butler definitly deserve it over Bosh. The rest not so much.

All I gotta say is if Caron doesn't make the team. It's a crime.

There are only 3 players in the entire league this season who are averaging at least 20 ppg 6 rpg and 4 apg.

Kobe Bryant
Lebron James
Caron Butler

[whoknows]

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so you telling me someone like kaman would not be selected over bosh?

[reptar15]

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Kaman plays in the West, but what point are you trying to make?

ugh that's why i said someone LIKE kaman who's playing great this year but his team sucks.

[Death Knight]

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ugh that's why i said someone LIKE kaman who's playing great this year but his team sucks.

I guess the Raptors suck too then........

[reptar15]

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I guess the Raptors suck too then........

the exact opposite

[Kid.Canada.23]

At this point After KG and Lebron. Paul Pierce and Caron Butler definitly deserve it over Bosh. The rest not so much.

All I gotta say is if Caron doesn't make the team. It's a crime.

There are only 3 players in the entire league this season who are averaging at least 20 ppg 6 rpg and 4 apg.

Kobe Bryant
Lebron James
Caron Butler

Hedo is averaging 19.6 ppg 4.1 apg 6.1 rpg... So he could also be in that group if you round up the 19.6 to 20. Still though Hedo is having a solid year on a solid team.

[SpaceJam]

Would we need Hedo? He could play the 3 and 4.

[Death Knight]

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the exact opposite

Then why put Kaman or Bosh in the same sentence? What Kaman and his team is doing has nothing to do with what Bosh and the Raptors are doing in the east.

[reptar15]

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Then why put Kaman or Bosh in the same sentence? What Kaman and his team is doing has nothing to do with what Bosh and the Raptors are doing in the east.

please stay in school

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Hedo is averaging 19.6 ppg 4.1 apg 6.1 rpg... So he could also be in that group if you round up the 19.6 to 20. Still though Hedo is having a solid year on a solid team.

Hedo is having a career year, and definitly deserves consideration to play in the ASG.

But the numbers aren't rounded..So for now he doesn't belong in that elite group of 3. Although very easily could be if 2 30 point games or so.

Difference is..Not only is Caron one of only 3 players averaging at least 20 pts 6 rpg and 4 apg...But he also LEADS THE ENTIRE CONFERENCE IN STEALS

[I_Like_Dirt]

I seriously doubt that the east coaches would decline to put even a single bigman on the list of east reserves. They'll list Bosh put Bosh in as a forward, a wild card or list him as a center if they have to, but he'll be on there. It would be highly amusing is a guy like Shaq, Z or Dalembert, or even JO, Sheed or Ben was in the ASG and Bosh was not. Jamison might squeak in there, although he really isn't much of a big, but I think Butler will be in the ASG before he will and the Wizards simply aren't good enough to justify two allstars. The EC wignmen aren't THAT good that they justify creating a team full of smaller players.

I don't feel that Jamison, Butler and/or Pierce have been any better than Bosh this season, though not any worse, either (although Bosh has been miles better defensively than either of the Wizards). Jamison and Butler have certainly exceeded expectations with Arenas out and Bosh hasn't been up to full speed long enough this season to meet his expectations yet but that doesn't mean Bosh's play is lagging behind those two.

I don't expect Bosh to play much in the ASG, though (as seems to be usual). Rivers will be the coach and Pierce and KG figure to take the bulk of the minutes along with LBJ.

[reptar15]

I seriously doubt that the east coaches would decline to put even a single bigman on the list of east reserves. They'll list Bosh put Bosh in as a forward, a wild card or list him as a center if they have to, but he'll be on there. It would be highly amusing is a guy like Shaq, Z or Dalembert, or even JO, Sheed or Ben was in the ASG and Bosh was not. Jamison might squeak in there, although he really isn't much of a big, but I think Butler will be in the ASG before he will and the Wizards simply aren't good enough to justify two allstars. The EC wignmen aren't THAT good that they justify creating a team full of smaller players.

I don't feel that Jamison, Butler and/or Pierce have been any better than Bosh this season, though not any worse, either (although Bosh has been miles better defensively than either of the Wizards). Jamison and Butler have certainly exceeded expectations with Arenas out and Bosh hasn't been up to full speed long enough this season to meet his expectations yet but that doesn't mean Bosh's play is lagging behind those two.

I don't expect Bosh to play much in the ASG, though (as seems to be usual). Rivers will be the coach and Pierce and KG figure to take the bulk of the minutes along with LBJ.

butler has been playing amazing basketball all season
you have got to be kidding me

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I seriously doubt that the east coaches would decline to put even a single bigman on the list of east reserves. They'll list Bosh put Bosh in as a forward, a wild card or list him as a center if they have to, but he'll be on there. It would be highly amusing is a guy like Shaq, Z or Dalembert, or even JO, Sheed or Ben was in the ASG and Bosh was not. Jamison might squeak in there, although he really isn't much of a big, but I think Butler will be in the ASG before he will and the Wizards simply aren't good enough to justify two allstars. The EC wignmen aren't THAT good that they justify creating a team full of smaller players.

I don't feel that Jamison, Butler and/or Pierce have been any better than Bosh this season, though not any worse, either (although Bosh has been miles better defensively than either of the Wizards). Jamison and Butler have certainly exceeded expectations with Arenas out and Bosh hasn't been up to full speed long enough this season to meet his expectations yet but that doesn't mean Bosh's play is lagging behind those two.

I don't expect Bosh to play much in the ASG, though (as seems to be usual). Rivers will be the coach and Pierce and KG figure to take the bulk of the minutes along with LBJ.

I agree with a lot that your saying, but there's no way Bosh has been MILES better than Butler defensively. Butler leads the conference in total steals and steals per game. I know it's just a stat, but you don't lead a conference in steals by playing bad defense.

[vi3t]

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I agree with a lot that your saying, but there's no way Bosh has been MILES better than Butler defensively. Butler leads the conference in total steals and steals per game. I know it's just a stat, but you don't lead a conference in steals by playing bad defense.

It could mean he's gambing a lot which doesn't bode well for the defence, Larry Hughes lead the league in steals or was one of the top leaders, but no way is he a good defender. But yes, Butler has been pretty good defensively this yr

[Joker]

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I agree with a lot that your saying, but there's no way Bosh has been MILES better than Butler defensively. Butler leads the conference in total steals and steals per game. I know it's just a stat, but you don't lead a conference in steals by playing bad defense.

That's not necessarily true. If you get a lot of steals because you're constantly overplaying your man and overplaying the passing lanes, which would allow your man an open path to the hoop when your gamble fails, then you would be a pretty awful defender.

[Calderoni_8]

I hope he doesnt so he will work harder and try to prove the league wrong..

[The_Hater]

Well we still have a month to go but Grange is right about this at this point in time. There is a ton of competition at forward in the east this year. I see no less than 10 guys that should get serious consideration from the coaches who will vote players in.

That said, I think that the Raps will solidify 4th place in the east during January and Bosh still gets in.