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2019nbachamps wrote:

C_Money wrote:

DelAbbot wrote:
100% it's key part of their job. They build the team and know the trajectory / position on the competitive cycle, and set the pricing accordingly (also according to market demand). Masai probably has a team of MBA's on this.

He answered this question at the press conference. MLSE sets the ticket prices but they ask his input on it.

I just read the quote. He says it’s above him but he has input. I guess at end of day the FO is accountable to MLSE shareholders and have to make sure the numbers work.

The Raptors can get away with higher prices despite a crappier product. The team has a strong brand, an entire country behind them, a large city with a lot of middle class and wealthy people, plus a league with a lot of star players who draw fans even if the home team sucks. Plus Toronto is a very expensive city already, inflation is sticky, and the team is trying to make up for the lost revenue from the Tampa season. It’s a bad look on the team but they know it’s a storm they can weather.

I actually think they’ll have better luck selling tickets next season. Rather than convincing fans to come out and watch a mediocre product, the pitch will be come out and watch a rebuilding team with several young stars including a hometown boy and an All Star.

And1Skip wrote:

JB7 wrote:

DelAbbot wrote:
The key lesson is how did you explain to the kids why it's $18 at the game?

Because Rogers/Bell are evil, and Costco isn't

Yes because I work for a company where my bonuses are tied to how much we sell of our particular product to Costco so of course to me Costco isn’t. And I don’t have cable tv and my phone/data plan is paid by company. And yes my kids just sold a McDs pompoerri toy for $4 to an uncle so he knows full well why a ice cream bar is $18 at the game. And the point is not that MLSE is profiting too much that’s the lesson. The point is being smarter with money that’s all.

Duffman100 wrote:Real easy, don't buy tickets.

About 6 years ago I deemed the ticket prices to be too high in relation to the product. I'd rather sit at home on my couch and drink reasonably priced beer while watching on a 70 inch TV.

Though, with kids now I want them to experience it at some point.

hype_2004 wrote:Supply and demand, you fools think MLSE cares about dirt poor "hardcore" fans who rarely go to games, never buy merchandise and bitch about the teams incompetence on the message boards . There are literally hundreds on the waiting lists and thousands of affluent casual fans, families and tourists that go to games and these people are the ones that spend money. Suits laugh at you fools and they will continue to raise prices to catch up to the demand.Toronto is a world class destination and it sucks for locals who barely make ends meet, barely can pay their rent, that work multiple minimum wage part time jobs to afford buying tickets let alone merchandise, it is what it is.

ItsDanger wrote:"Feels for the fans . . . sometimes . . .".

Increasingly, teams focus more on premium seating rather than general seating. As the chart indicates below, media/advertising is a huge component these days. They should at least restrict increases on 300 level tickets.

refshateRaps wrote:

Scase wrote:

refshateRaps wrote:

I'm not here to tell you how to read but as I said 'some people'. Which is far from 'painting everyone' with the same brush.

My point is you have no clue who those "some people" are. Using random people at an event having a good time who might very likely be completely comfortable spending that money/being healthy, as an example of "some people" being unhealthy/incapable of saving is pretty ignorant. But you do you I guess.

'Your point' is an attempt to drag my actual point into your own baseless narrative far away from my point.

My main point is pretty simple in the arena is grossly ripping people off. So ya I teach my kids to use their heads and with money and navigate.

My second point is most of the food is junk and again I teach them to be healthy and not over consume like many at the games do, for various reasons. None of which changes anything.

And ya I certainly have a huge clue as to why people over consume and grossly over pay at the games, been to many over the years with friends, family and coworkers, like most here. Simply an aknowledgment some people do, so that's that. And even you agree, but are stuck on feeling you need to justify the reasons peeps do like I don't know or it actually changes my points? All good if you dont agree with them but making assumptions and exaggerations simply to drag into something else? That's ignorant!

WaltFrazier wrote:

ItsDanger wrote:"Feels for the fans . . . sometimes . . .".

Increasingly, teams focus more on premium seating rather than general seating. As the chart indicates below, media/advertising is a huge component these days. They should at least restrict increases on 300 level tickets.

Where is legalized gambling within that pie chart! How big a piece?

DelAbbot wrote:

hype_2004 wrote:Supply and demand, you fools think MLSE cares about dirt poor "hardcore" fans who rarely go to games, never buy merchandise and bitch about the teams incompetence on the message boards . There are literally hundreds on the waiting lists and thousands of affluent casual fans, families and tourists that go to games and these people are the ones that spend money. Suits laugh at you fools and they will continue to raise prices to catch up to the demand.Toronto is a world class destination and it sucks for locals who barely make ends meet, barely can pay their rent, that work multiple minimum wage part time jobs to afford buying tickets let alone merchandise, it is what it is.

how did you profile most tWo members so perfectly!!

Duffman100 wrote:Real easy, don't buy tickets.

About 6 years ago I deemed the ticket prices to be too high in relation to the product. I'd rather sit at home on my couch and drink reasonably priced beer while watching on a 70 inch TV.

Though, with kids now I want them to experience it at some point.

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:these sports in general are a big waste of money.. Not a good investment.. Better off buying more steaks with that money and enjoying life.

tecumseh18 wrote:

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:these sports in general are a big waste of money.. Not a good investment.. Better off buying more steaks with that money and enjoying life.

OF COURSE, sports and concert tickets are a waste of money. But fans still obviously crave that collective live experience. And athletes, musicians and actors love performing for a full house. Unfortunately, franchises, promoters and Ticketmaster have abused that mutual love to push prices to the limit. And they're in danger of killing the good that laid the golden egg. -

For Game 5 of the 2019 Finals, by all rights I should sold my tickets (like I did for the first two games). KD was playing, and the Raps had a chance to close it out. As a SSHer, my tickets cost me about $800 (Row 4s on 300 level). But I could have sold them for, I dunno, $8,000 for the pair? The city was going nuts. But the chance to experience the vibe, while beating KD to win the championship, was too alluring. Although, I must admit, it was amazing to feel the crowd energy - when KD went down, early in the fourth quarter when we were behind, when Kawhi went on his big run near the end, when Kyle missed the final shot (again). I'll make more money, but I'll remember that energy for the rest of my life.

Los Angeles Clippers fans will have an opportunity for a first-come, first-serve seat with a season ticket in the team's new arena next season.

The seats will be in "The Wall" fan section behind the opposing team's basket at the Intuit Dome. The "ultimate wall pass" is priced at $1,299 before fees and taxes. With 41 home games, that works out to approximately $32 per game. As the Clippers point out on the team's website, that's approximately half the price of a regular-season ticket.

Ultimate wall pass buyers will have seats assigned when they arrive at the arena. Depending on how early they show up, fans could sit as close as Row 3 in the section. Assigned seats will be available in Rows 3 through 51 of the section.

vulture wrote:Toronto in general is so expensive that I’m not sure how people are affording to live here.