Former Raptor discussion thread 3.0

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Precious was used wrong in Toronto. Defensively he was fine. I just hated watching him try to score.

We were sold fool's gold in his first year. Him hitting 36% from 3 gave us such high hopes that we allowed him to try and score for the next 2 seasons, except he completely lost his touch and took the worst shots/forced shots. Being forced back into a defensive first role in NY has helped him be smarter about shot selection.

[ForeverTFC]

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Precious was used wrong in Toronto. Defensively he was fine. I just hated watching him try to score.

His defense was fine here as well. Thibs doesn't seem to trust him in the POs though and even when he plays him, limits him offensively. He's played in 3 of their 7 games, averaging 11 mpg, 2.3 FGA on 28%, 0 3 pointers attempted and .66 turnovers a game.

The writing was on the wall the moment they brought Darko and his system in. If you can't read and react, move the ball, and make quick decisions, you have no role in this offense. We can't play him how Thibs will play him.

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Precious was used wrong in Toronto. Defensively he was fine. I just hated watching him try to score.

His defense was fine here as well. Thibs doesn't seem to trust him in the POs though and even when he plays him, limits him offensively. He's played in 3 of their 7 games, averaging 11 mpg, 2.3 FGA on 28%, 0 3 pointers attempted and .66 turnovers a game.

The writing was on the wall the moment they brought Darko and his system in. If you can't read and react, move the ball, and make quick decisions, you have no role in this offense. We can't play him how Thibs will play him.

I think that's the point. Get Precious to buy into being a defensive specialist and strictly a play finisher. I'm not sure if it was Nick Nurse or the front office that encouraged him to handle the ball, try and take 4 defenders off the dribble and shoot 3s. If he would commit to being a Ben Wallace or Rudy Gobert type that would just defend...he'd still be a Raptor and we wouldn't have hated the Precious experience while in Toronto.

[ForeverTFC]

Precious was used wrong in Toronto. Defensively he was fine. I just hated watching him try to score.

His defense was fine here as well. Thibs doesn't seem to trust him in the POs though and even when he plays him, limits him offensively. He's played in 3 of their 7 games, averaging 11 mpg, 2.3 FGA on 28%, 0 3 pointers attempted and .66 turnovers a game.

The writing was on the wall the moment they brought Darko and his system in. If you can't read and react, move the ball, and make quick decisions, you have no role in this offense. We can't play him how Thibs will play him.

I think that's the point. Get Precious to buy into being a defensive specialist and strictly a play finisher. I'm not sure if it was Nick Nurse or the front office that encouraged him to handle the ball, try and take 4 defenders off the dribble and shoot 3s. If he would commit to being a Ben Wallace or Rudy Gobert type that would just defend...he'd still be a Raptor and we wouldn't have hated the Precious experience while in Toronto.

I don't think that archetype can exist in Darko's offense. I just don't see any scenario in which Precious would have worked here once we committed to Darko.

Regarding Nurse, there was a PatBev clip where he was recounting a conversation with Kawhi in which Kawhi apparently said: "How you like Nick Nurse's offense? He lets you do whatever you want, right?" That pretty much sums it up.

EDIT: Here it is...
https://www.tiktok.com/@barstoolsports/video/7357532007733218602

[WaltFrazier]

Charles Barkley giving Precious lots of love postgame

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[djsunyc]

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easy response for pascal - "at least i'm rated"

[EastonEddy]

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Says Pascal is overrated but also call him a superstar. Hmmm which is it?