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From Keith Smith at Spotrac: Raptors' 2024 offseason analysis: "Continuing the reset without having to rebuild". This is a thoughtful, well reasoned look at what the Raptors are looking at this summer. Definitely worth a read.

https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2234/2024-nba-offseason-financial-previews

"The Toronto Raptors did the hard part ahead of last season’s trade deadline: They hit the reset button. That meant trading away the last real ties to the 2019 title team by sending OG Anunoby to the New York Knicks and Pascal Siakam to the Indiana Pacers. But they were the right moves to get the franchise headed in a new direction. After missing the playoffs in three of the last four years, with one first-round exit mixed in, it was time to start over. The good news? The Raptors aren’t starting over from scratch."

"This offseason is crucial for Toronto, but not in an “adding talent” way. This summer is about locking up the players the Raptors already have in Scottie Barnes and Immanuel Quickley. Everything else is about finding the right guys to maximize what those two bring, especially players who fit with Barnes. That might be a two-year process, but if the Raptors get this right, this mini-postseason drought will be over before we know it."

In addition to these summary comments, Smith suggests the following:

- Barnes will get a max extension, likely allowing for 30% of the cap if he makes all NBA
- Quickley will get 4 years between $100 mil and $120 mil
- the Olynyk signing points to Toronto operating over the cap
- Brown's option will be picked up to allow him to be used in a trade
- Trent will move on (could be sign & trade)
- Nwora, Temple, Malik Williams could return, on a minimum deal
- Raps will use the MLE to target affordable options for backup PG and possibly 4/5 depth
- draft picks will be BPA

Draft picks being the BPA is what the Raptors badly need.

Wondering what can we get for Gary Trent jr’s sign and trade

islandboy53 wrote:From Keith Smith at Spotrac: Raptors' 2024 offseason analysis: "Continuing the reset without having to rebuild". This is a thoughtful, well reasoned look at what the Raptors are looking at this summer. Definitely worth a read.

https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2234/2024-nba-offseason-financial-previews

"The Toronto Raptors did the hard part ahead of last season’s trade deadline: They hit the reset button. That meant trading away the last real ties to the 2019 title team by sending OG Anunoby to the New York Knicks and Pascal Siakam to the Indiana Pacers. But they were the right moves to get the franchise headed in a new direction. After missing the playoffs in three of the last four years, with one first-round exit mixed in, it was time to start over. The good news? The Raptors aren’t starting over from scratch."

"This offseason is crucial for Toronto, but not in an “adding talent” way. This summer is about locking up the players the Raptors already have in Scottie Barnes and Immanuel Quickley. Everything else is about finding the right guys to maximize what those two bring, especially players who fit with Barnes. That might be a two-year process, but if the Raptors get this right, this mini-postseason drought will be over before we know it."

In addition to these summary comments, Smith suggests the following:

- Barnes will get a max extension, likely allowing for 30% of the cap if he makes all NBA
- Quickley will get 4 years between $100 mil and $120 mil
- the Olynyk signing points to Toronto operating over the cap
- Brown's option will be picked up to allow him to be used in a trade
- Trent will move on (could be sign & trade)
- Nwora, Temple, Malik Williams could return, on a minimum deal
- Raps will use the MLE to target affordable options for backup PG and possibly 4/5 depth
- draft picks will be BPA

It's not working in Phoenix. Would we trade expirings for Bradley Beal? Grayson Allen can play more.

#31, Bruce Brown, Ochai Agbaji, Chris Boucher and McDaniels for #22, Beal and cash

PG IQ - Castle/JFL
SG Beal - Castle - Dick
SF Barrett - Dick - #19
PF Barnes - Barrett/Olynyk
C Poeltl - Olynyk - Chomche

manjusaka wrote:Wondering what can we get for Gary Trent jr’s sign and trade

Patrick Williams S&T?

"Without having to rebuild"

Not adding talent.... Uh ok Keith

I doubt Temple retires. He loses his NBAPA positions if that happens. Needs to be on a roster.

Meh, I think lots of stars will be available. I think lots of teams will tank in a great draft year. I think there isn't much difference between 8 and 2 in the east.

If we win the lottery, I could see us trading for a star

NotMyKawhi wrote:Meh, I think lots of stars will be available. I think lots of teams will tank in a great draft year. I think there isn't much difference between 8 and 2 in the east.

If we win the lottery, I could see us trading for a star

If Philly doesn't sign PG, I think the Sixers might tank and trade Embiid. If LeBron leaves I think AD could be available. The bucks are getting older, will Giannis or Dame be available? The Sun's are the best they'll ever be w no picks while being in cap hell. Will KD or Booker be available? Will small market NO lock up BI, Trey and JV or do they rebuild? Will the Jazz trade expiring Lauri and tank for cooper? Will Trae be available?

manjusaka wrote:Wondering what can we get for Gary Trent jr’s sign and trade

Nothing because he isn’t valued in the league. Why would he opt in last summer if there was a good market for him? We also couldnt find a decent trade at the deadline even though the season was a wash and he can leave for nothing this summer. He’s a dime a dozen in the NBA.

Psubs wrote:

islandboy53 wrote:From Keith Smith at Spotrac: Raptors' 2024 offseason analysis: "Continuing the reset without having to rebuild". This is a thoughtful, well reasoned look at what the Raptors are looking at this summer. Definitely worth a read.

https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2234/2024-nba-offseason-financial-previews

"The Toronto Raptors did the hard part ahead of last season’s trade deadline: They hit the reset button. That meant trading away the last real ties to the 2019 title team by sending OG Anunoby to the New York Knicks and Pascal Siakam to the Indiana Pacers. But they were the right moves to get the franchise headed in a new direction. After missing the playoffs in three of the last four years, with one first-round exit mixed in, it was time to start over. The good news? The Raptors aren’t starting over from scratch."

"This offseason is crucial for Toronto, but not in an “adding talent” way. This summer is about locking up the players the Raptors already have in Scottie Barnes and Immanuel Quickley. Everything else is about finding the right guys to maximize what those two bring, especially players who fit with Barnes. That might be a two-year process, but if the Raptors get this right, this mini-postseason drought will be over before we know it."

In addition to these summary comments, Smith suggests the following:

- Barnes will get a max extension, likely allowing for 30% of the cap if he makes all NBA
- Quickley will get 4 years between $100 mil and $120 mil
- the Olynyk signing points to Toronto operating over the cap
- Brown's option will be picked up to allow him to be used in a trade
- Trent will move on (could be sign & trade)
- Nwora, Temple, Malik Williams could return, on a minimum deal
- Raps will use the MLE to target affordable options for backup PG and possibly 4/5 depth
- draft picks will be BPA

It's not working in Phoenix. Would we trade expirings for Bradley Beal? Grayson Allen can play more.

#31, Bruce Brown, Ochai Agbaji, Chris Boucher and McDaniels for #22, Beal and cash

PG IQ - Castle/JFL
SG Beal - Castle - Dick
SF Barrett - Dick - #19
PF Barnes - Barrett/Olynyk
C Poeltl - Olynyk - Chomche

Yuuuuuuck

That contract is a killer. KD is a bette phoenix target if that’s the route you wanted to go. Shorter contract, cheaper to acquire, better, fits a need.

NotMyKawhi wrote:

NotMyKawhi wrote:Meh, I think lots of stars will be available. I think lots of teams will tank in a great draft year. I think there isn't much difference between 8 and 2 in the east.

If we win the lottery, I could see us trading for a star

If Philly doesn't sign PG, I think the Sixers might tank and trade Embiid. If LeBron leaves I think AD could be available. The bucks are getting older, will Giannis or Dame be available? The Sun's are the best they'll ever be w no picks while being in cap hell. Will KD or Booker be available? Will small market NO lock up BI, Trey and JV or do they rebuild? Will the Jazz trade expiring Lauri and tank for cooper? Will Trae be available?

76ers aren’t tanking, they’re in win now mode. You don’t tank with a league MVP. They’ll go after PG, Pascal, etc.

Bucks are also in win now mode and they’ll bring Giannis and Dame back. Their excuse will be the roster and coaching changes set them back this season plus Giannis’s injury.

Lakers should blow it up but I think they’re delusional. That team is not good enough. Let LeBron compete for a last ring and maximize assets for AD. In reality I imagine they’ll keep the team together to give themselves false hope they are competing.

2019nbachamps wrote:

NotMyKawhi wrote:

NotMyKawhi wrote:Meh, I think lots of stars will be available. I think lots of teams will tank in a great draft year. I think there isn't much difference between 8 and 2 in the east.

If we win the lottery, I could see us trading for a star

If Philly doesn't sign PG, I think the Sixers might tank and trade Embiid. If LeBron leaves I think AD could be available. The bucks are getting older, will Giannis or Dame be available? The Sun's are the best they'll ever be w no picks while being in cap hell. Will KD or Booker be available? Will small market NO lock up BI, Trey and JV or do they rebuild? Will the Jazz trade expiring Lauri and tank for cooper? Will Trae be available?

76ers aren’t tanking, they’re in win now mode. You don’t tank with a league MVP. They’ll go after PG, Pascal, etc.

Bucks are also in win now mode and they’ll bring Giannis and Dame back. Their excuse will be the roster and coaching changes set them back this season plus Giannis’s injury.

Lakers should blow it up but I think they’re delusional. That team is not good enough. Let LeBron compete for a last ring and maximize assets for AD. In reality I imagine they’ll keep the team together to give themselves false hope they are competing.

Sixers have got worse every year since we beat them. They will be even worse next year. Time to build around Embiid and tank


Bucks have no way to get better

I think it will be a sign and trade that sends Gary to the lakers. Lakers are also going to go hard for Trae this off season though so we shall see.

I think the FO will take on some bad contracts this summer, as long as they can get back some 2025 and 2026 first round picks.

Something like...
Bruce Brown for John Collins + 2025 1st round Pick [CLE]

What are the MLE Targets, I'm assuming it's gonna be a backup PG or Backup 5
What about Wiseman for MLE ?? Is he a UFA?

manjusaka wrote:Wondering what can we get for Gary Trent jr’s sign and trade

I think very little. Maybe take on Gabe Vincent and get a look at Hood-Schiffino and some 2nd rounders we can use to shed Vincent's deal (like the Bagley trade) so we're basically just using Vincent as a backup guard for a year and getting JHS for nothing? I did not like him at the draft and he wasn't good in the G-League.

Or Levert and some 2nds?

I don't think there will be a good deal on the table, and most likely someone like Detroit, Orlando, San Antonio or Charlotte doesn't want to match a huge offer for Monk and just settles for paying Trent.

DG88 wrote:Not adding talent.... Uh ok Keith

How can anyone watch these games and think the Raps are fine as far as talent is concerned lol?

I find the Gary Trent Jr. situation very mysterious. It just doesn't feel like they'll let him walk. I know the article mentions the idea of a sign-and-trade, but I believe a short-term extension is still a possibility too. Maybe there's value at extending him on a 1+1 deal, around 20 million. That creates similar value to what we have with Bruce Brown's deal now.