OT: Projecting big name player movement this off-season - where will they land?

[PhilBlackson]

Paul George to the Sixers makes sense to me: Maxey / George / Embiid

Paul George going bach to the team that drafted him in Indy would also make for a great storyline and be a perfect fit.

Haliburton/PG/Siakam

Meh...him to IND wouldn't do much.

In PHI it would at least give them a shot to make a ECF or Finals. Pacers would be very lucky to make a Conference Finals but they don't defend enough & PG is getting older to take on too much defensively. Forget storylines of "returning home", at this point in PG's career it's ring chase or bust tbh. These guys only have so much of a window to be a major part of championship run, if I'm him I priortize that and maybe in a couple years I can go be a "good vet" to a team as the sun goes down on my career but I would not waste what very little is left of the back end of my prime for a feel good story that won't make him feel good about never being on that stage when it's all said & done.

[ArthurVandelay]

Another name thrown out as possibly being interested in NY - Embiid

NY could have a lot of names to pick from this offseason: Embiid, Mitchell, Booker, Towns. Which one would be the best fit with the current roster?

Embiid made curious comments about loving NY, best city in the world, has had a place there for 5 years. He did nothing to stop rumors.

[PhilBlackson]

Ishbia is doubling down. Don't expect PHX to move anyone.
Pelicans will make moves Griff admitted it few days ago
Lebron is staying in LA

If the Pels are ready to make trades of course Trey Murphy would be THE top target I'd go after....they can have whatever picks of ours but he's pretty much the ideal SF for this team. BUUUUT...I've heard Griff on several occasions say how much the franchise loves him.

Personally I'd be willing to go after Ingram (assuming there's a handshake agreement on an extension) with basically the package we got for Pascal (those picks + Brown), maybe toss in another lotto protected one but again it would be contingent on knowing he'd be signing an extension.

As for LA, everyone and their momma already knows they're targeting Trae, it's just a matter of if the Spurs will hijack that or not which imo they should when all they really need to do is trade ATL their picks back to them lol plus maybe a Keldon Johnson and whatever other fillers. But ATL's own picks have way more value than those Laker ones would.

[PhilBlackson]

Another name thrown out as possibly being interested in NY - Embiid

NY could have a lot of names to pick from this offseason: Embiid, Mitchell, Booker, Towns. Which one would be the best fit with the current roster?

Embiid made curious comments about loving NY, best city in the world, has had a place there for 5 years. He did nothing to stop rumors.

That's a move that I don't really get for Embiid. Brunson has the slight edge over Maxey now but I'd suspect Maxey closes that gap within a couple of years which only extends Biid's window and the Sixers could add someone like PG too...heck very outside chance LeBron (although incredibly doubtful as he's presumptively just posturing to get his way in LA). But if NY has to trade for Embiid they simply will have to lose a lot of the depth that's made them this tough team.

Morey in particular is not going to just take Randle and a bunch of late 1sts. He'd likely say he wants OG, Deuce TOO! Because we know he aims to make himself the big winner in any trade he makes so if what's left is basically Brunson/Biid, I don't see how that's better than Maxey/PG/Biid.

[6ixpessant]

Morey is this era's Coleangelo... it'll be interesting to see him fumble around this summer.

[ConSarnit]

Obviously not a big name but I think Dwight Powell would be a good add as a backup Center. We can slowly build Team Canada with Barnes and IQ loll.

What would be the point of Powell?

If we need a backup C to cover for Olynyk’s defensive issues he doesn’t fit that role as he is almost equally as bad defensively. So if we’re just going to have a bad defensive C as a backup why not just use Olynyk in that role and at least we’ll get some offensive boost.

Powell is the worst of all worlds as a C. Bad defender who can only score as a roll man but his athleticism is fading and we don’t really have a pnr maestro who can feed him. I’d rather take a chance on anyone else over Powell, who is in clear decline and never really good in the first place.

[ConSarnit]

Ishbia is doubling down. Don't expect PHX to move anyone.
Pelicans will make moves Griff admitted it few days ago
Lebron is staying in LA

If the Pels are ready to make trades of course Trey Murphy would be THE top target I'd go after....they can have whatever picks of ours but he's pretty much the ideal SF for this team. BUUUUT...I've heard Griff on several occasions say how much the franchise loves him.

Personally I'd be willing to go after Ingram (assuming there's a handshake agreement on an extension) with basically the package we got for Pascal (those picks + Brown), maybe toss in another lotto protected one but again it would be contingent on knowing he'd be signing an extension.

As for LA, everyone and their momma already knows they're targeting Trae, it's just a matter of if the Spurs will hijack that or not which imo they should when all they really need to do is trade ATL their picks back to them lol plus maybe a Keldon Johnson and whatever other fillers. But ATL's own picks have way more value than those Laker ones would.

Do we really want to pay Ingram $50m a year? Because that’s the type of deal he’ll be looking for next off-season.

The guy is a fine player but he’s the exact type of guy you don’t want to have to pay the max for. Borderline all-star who puts up numbers but never has a huge impact on winning. Paying him near 30% of the cap is not appealing.

[Tor_Raps]

Obviously not a big name but I think Dwight Powell would be a good add as a backup Center. We can slowly build Team Canada with Barnes and IQ loll.

What would be the point of Powell?

If we need a backup C to cover for Olynyk’s defensive issues he doesn’t fit that role as he is almost equally as bad defensively. So if we’re just going to have a bad defensive C as a backup why not just use Olynyk in that role and at least we’ll get some offensive boost.

Powell is the worst of all worlds as a C. Bad defender who can only score as a roll man but his athleticism is fading and we don’t really have a pnr maestro who can feed him. I’d rather take a chance on anyone else over Powell, who is in clear decline and never really good in the first place.

Maybe I haven't watched Powell close enough but I thought hed be good defensively as a backup C. Olynyk in no way can be our backup C next year. If Poeltl gets hurt, the team will go from mediocre to bottom 3 in the nba real fast for a reason.

Raptors currently don't have a rim running big so he'd be able to fill that role. Again, he only makes 4M and would cost us practically nothing. Thought it would be a low cost add if we cant find a better player.

[YogurtProducer]

Paul George to the Sixers makes sense to me: Maxey / George / Embiid

Paul George going bach to the team that drafted him in Indy would also make for a great storyline and be a perfect fit.

Haliburton/PG/Siakam

Meh...him to IND wouldn't do much.

In PHI it would at least give them a shot to make a ECF or Finals. Pacers would be very lucky to make a Conference Finals but they don't defend enough & PG is getting older to take on too much defensively. Forget storylines of "returning home", at this point in PG's career it's ring chase or bust tbh. These guys only have so much of a window to be a major part of championship run, if I'm him I priortize that and maybe in a couple years I can go be a "good vet" to a team as the sun goes down on my career but I would not waste what very little is left of the back end of my prime for a feel good story that won't make him feel good about never being on that stage when it's all said & done.

What? Yo think PG wouldn't do much? A team that just went 47-35 would not improve much by adding a all-nba caliber wing?

Hali/PG/Siakam would be a hell of a 3-headed punch on both ends. Nesmith at the 2 and Turner at the 5 adds shooting everywhere and solid defence.

Now - I have ZERO idea if they can even financially do that, but adding PG13 to that team would be huge for them. He is a supercharged 3+D star player.

[ConSarnit]

Obviously not a big name but I think Dwight Powell would be a good add as a backup Center. We can slowly build Team Canada with Barnes and IQ loll.

What would be the point of Powell?

If we need a backup C to cover for Olynyk’s defensive issues he doesn’t fit that role as he is almost equally as bad defensively. So if we’re just going to have a bad defensive C as a backup why not just use Olynyk in that role and at least we’ll get some offensive boost.

Powell is the worst of all worlds as a C. Bad defender who can only score as a roll man but his athleticism is fading and we don’t really have a pnr maestro who can feed him. I’d rather take a chance on anyone else over Powell, who is in clear decline and never really good in the first place.

Maybe I haven't watched Powell close enough but I thought hed be good defensively as a backup C. Olynyk in no way can be our backup C next year. If Poeltl gets hurt, the team will go from mediocre to bottom 3 in the nba real fast for a reason.

Raptors currently don't have a rim running big so he'd be able to fill that role. Again, he only makes 4M and would cost us practically nothing. Thought it would be a low cost add if we cant find a better player.

I think at Powell’s peak he was still below average defensively. Age and injury have made that worse. I don’t necessarily disagree that we could use a backup defensive C but I think we’d need to look at someone other than Powell. I think the theory of Olynyk could work in a few situations:

-as Barnes continues to improve he could provide more and more rim protection. He already did a fairly solid job this past season

-maybe Boucher finds his way back into the rotation. I’d have more confidence in him as a rim protector than Powell

-maybe we draft a C (even a raw-ish rookie can probably provide Powell equivalent rim protection)

-sign someone else (though the current market looks slim)

-maybe wins aren’t really the mandate next year

All that is to say: if we end up with Powell as our backup C we are nearly as screwed defensively then if we just go with Olynyk imo.

[Merit]

Another name thrown out as possibly being interested in NY - Embiid

NY could have a lot of names to pick from this offseason: Embiid, Mitchell, Booker, Towns. Which one would be the best fit with the current roster?

Embiid made curious comments about loving NY, best city in the world, has had a place there for 5 years. He did nothing to stop rumors.

I might actually start liking Joel if he chooses the Knicks over a warm weather city.

[Merit]

What would be the point of Powell?

If we need a backup C to cover for Olynyk’s defensive issues he doesn’t fit that role as he is almost equally as bad defensively. So if we’re just going to have a bad defensive C as a backup why not just use Olynyk in that role and at least we’ll get some offensive boost.

Powell is the worst of all worlds as a C. Bad defender who can only score as a roll man but his athleticism is fading and we don’t really have a pnr maestro who can feed him. I’d rather take a chance on anyone else over Powell, who is in clear decline and never really good in the first place.

Maybe I haven't watched Powell close enough but I thought hed be good defensively as a backup C. Olynyk in no way can be our backup C next year. If Poeltl gets hurt, the team will go from mediocre to bottom 3 in the nba real fast for a reason.

Raptors currently don't have a rim running big so he'd be able to fill that role. Again, he only makes 4M and would cost us practically nothing. Thought it would be a low cost add if we cant find a better player.

I think at Powell’s peak he was still below average defensively. Age and injury have made that worse. I don’t necessarily disagree that we could use a backup defensive C but I think we’d need to look at someone other than Powell. I think the theory of Olynyk could work in a few situations:

-as Barnes continues to improve he could provide more and more rim protection. He already did a fairly solid job this past season

-maybe Boucher finds his way back into the rotation. I’d have more confidence in him as a rim protector than Powell

-maybe we draft a C (even a raw-ish rookie can probably provide Powell equivalent rim protection)

-sign someone else (though the current market looks slim)

-maybe wins aren’t really the mandate next year

All that is to say: if we end up with Powell as our backup C we are nearly as screwed defensively then if we just go with Olynyk imo.

Powell would be the third string C and the first string cheerleader and player developer a la Thad.

[Ball4life32]

I feel sorry for whoever takes on Trae.

Why? He's still a really good offensive player - elite shooter and playmaker.

He'd be PERFECT fit on the Spurs.

Wemby and Vassell can cover Trae's defensive lapses.

Keldon Johnson + Tre Jones + Graham/Collins + Draft Pick(s) for Trae

Trae is an absolutely awful teammate and a loser on the court, he's not well liked in Atlanta. He's been a loser on the court his entire career, you don't bring in guys like that during a rebuild and youth movement.

We have already lived through Raptors nation thinking Cousins and Beal would be great additions.

This is so off base and not even true. Name one teammate that thinks this… you’re listening to clickbait false rumors and crazy you can average 26/11+ with +3 bpm (lowest since rookie yr) but you’re a loser on the court. Yikes

Another name thrown out as possibly being interested in NY - Embiid

NY could have a lot of names to pick from this offseason: Embiid, Mitchell, Booker, Towns. Which one would be the best fit with the current roster?

Embiid made curious comments about loving NY, best city in the world, has had a place there for 5 years. He did nothing to stop rumors.

Great fit for NY but doubt they trade Embiid. Philly will be awful without him.

[6ixpessant]

Why? He's still a really good offensive player - elite shooter and playmaker.

He'd be PERFECT fit on the Spurs.

Wemby and Vassell can cover Trae's defensive lapses.

Keldon Johnson + Tre Jones + Graham/Collins + Draft Pick(s) for Trae

Trae is an absolutely awful teammate and a loser on the court, he's not well liked in Atlanta. He's been a loser on the court his entire career, you don't bring in guys like that during a rebuild and youth movement.

We have already lived through Raptors nation thinking Cousins and Beal would be great additions.

This is so off base and not even true. Name one teammate that thinks this… you’re listening to clickbait false rumors and crazy you can average 26/11+ with +3 bpm (lowest since rookie yr) but you’re a loser on the court. Yikes

Another name thrown out as possibly being interested in NY - Embiid

NY could have a lot of names to pick from this offseason: Embiid, Mitchell, Booker, Towns. Which one would be the best fit with the current roster?

Embiid made curious comments about loving NY, best city in the world, has had a place there for 5 years. He did nothing to stop rumors.

Great fit for NY but doubt they trade Embiid. Philly will be awful without him.

You're assuming I got that from the internet. We don't all live in the basement.

Now statistically, there is a long line of guys over the decades that were career stat stuffing losers (on the court, nice guys off it.. though Trae doesn't fit that). You can find that data and it can't really be disputed. There are a bunch of them in the league currently.

You should probably lay off the tik tok, hot takes and sport fan circle jerks.

[PushDaRock]

Timeout... who the hell said our Center rotation is set? We have 1 actual Center on the roster and actually need 2 more (a backup and a young 3rd stringer with potential).

Also Powell is still under contract with the Mavs for 4M next year but he seems useless for them with Lively and Gafford there now. Think he could be had for very little.

What is going on? You are saying KO is not an adequate back-up centre? This board is completely off the rails. Whenever someone comes on this roster the board turns on them.

My man... Olynyk is a really good bench player but he hasn't played Center for majority of his career for a reason. He's been a PF who can play C in particular situations where you're prioritizing offense over defense.

There was a reason why this team (as mediocre as it was) completely fell apart when Poeltl got hurt. You need someone else with that type of skillset off the bench.

It wasn't just Poeltl getting hurt, it was Barnes as well. This team was left a bunch of guards and wings and no bigs at all. We all know KO isn't a great defensive anchor 5, but it looked so much worse out there because of the lineups we were forced to play. You had Agbaji, Nwora and McDaniels getting minutes at the 4, of course it's going to look like a dumpster fire out there.

[deeps6x]

Evan mobley isn't going anywhere.

I don't know. I think if someone offered the Cavs a top two pick in this draft for Mobley, they might just take it. He's been good, but not great. Plus it would free up money for other players on the team.

[Ball4life32]

Trae is an absolutely awful teammate and a loser on the court, he's not well liked in Atlanta. He's been a loser on the court his entire career, you don't bring in guys like that during a rebuild and youth movement.

We have already lived through Raptors nation thinking Cousins and Beal would be great additions.

This is so off base and not even true. Name one teammate that thinks this… you’re listening to clickbait false rumors and crazy you can average 26/11+ with +3 bpm (lowest since rookie yr) but you’re a loser on the court. Yikes

You're assuming I got that from the internet. We don't all live in the basement.

Now statistically, there is a long line of guys over the decades that were career stat stuffing losers (on the court, nice guys off it.. though Trae doesn't fit that). You can find that data and it can't really be disputed. There are a bunch of them in the league currently.

You should probably lay off the tik tok, hot takes and sport fan circle jerks.

You should definitely take your own advice. Nothing you said is accurate and no one said there aren’t career stat stuffing losers. They don’t make ECF and playoffs (3 of the last 4 yrs) with zero all star teammates though.

[Ball4life32]

Evan mobley isn't going anywhere.

I don't know. I think if someone offered the Cavs a top two pick in this draft for Mobley, they might just take it. He's been good, but not great. Plus it would free up money for other players on the team.

I don’t like his fit offensively with Allen. Hes more a 5 on offense…..can he play the 5 full time?

[Scase]

Evan mobley isn't going anywhere.

I don't know. I think if someone offered the Cavs a top two pick in this draft for Mobley, they might just take it. He's been good, but not great. Plus it would free up money for other players on the team.

Jak, Brown, GTJ, pacers 2026 pick for Mobley. Who says no

[Zeno]

Evan mobley isn't going anywhere.

I don't know. I think if someone offered the Cavs a top two pick in this draft for Mobley, they might just take it. He's been good, but not great. Plus it would free up money for other players on the team.

Jak, Brown, GTJ, pacers 2026 pick for Mobley. Who says no

Yeah that is...

I was wondering if Cleveland might try to use Allen, Strus, Niang to get Durant in an attempt to convince Mitchell to stay. Something like Allen, Strus, D. Wade and Niang for Durant. Clevland can also throw in the #20 from this draft too. Who says no?