Hendrix wrote:Grizzled wrote:We could get into a long discussion about this, but I’ll have to pick it up tomorrow. This is a couple of weeks old but it’s the first one that popped up in my search. Make sure you read the discussion about soccer at the top. I believe the Blue Jays are actually drawing a bit bigger numbers than they have in recent years. I think the start they had this year may have had something to do with that. Have a look at the NFL exhibition game numbers and the non-Blue Jays baseball numbers, and those were both weekend games where the numbers should be bigger than on weekdays. Also consider that the sports networks have been pushing MLB and the NFL very hard for years, and they haven’t promoted soccer very much at all.
http://thestar.blogs.com/sportsmedia/20 ... tings.html
This was one of the biggest soccer events on Canadian soil in years, promoted like crazy, and didn't come close to your regular everyday CFL, or Blue Jays game you can watch 100's of throughtout the summer. What am I supposed to take from this?
Well, this thread has grown.
90,000 on GolTV? Maybe this game was advertised to death in the GTA, but given that I’ve never even heard of GolTV and hadn’t heard that this game was being televised I wonder how much they advertised outside of the GTA. I assume that most of that advertising was in the GTA, and if they could get that number watching an obscure channel mostly from a region of the country with 15% of the population of Canada then what’s the upside for soccer in this country?
Also note that soccer wouldn’t have to match the CFL’s numbers. The CFL is Canada’s game, as the saying goes. It’s Canada’s national summer sport, just like hockey is our winter sport, but if you look down at the bottom of that list you see the Red Sox at the Yankees drawing 126,000, showing just how little people care about MLB in this country, and an NFL exhibition game drawing 135,000. TSN and Sportsnet should not be carrying this kind of programming at all. There is very little interst in the Blue Jays in this country, but there is virtually no interest in watching a MLB game that doesn’t involve the Blue Jays, even one between the Red Sox and the Yankees. And an NFL exhibition game should also not be carried by Canadian sport channels. Maybe the CRTC needs to step up its rules to force these networks to serve their Canadian audience.
Postby D-Wins-RingsIMO:
I love soccer, but those Real Madrid numbers are a 1 time thing, b/c that was the equivalent of the circus coming to town.
TFC draws 20-50,000 viewers a game even on Sportsnet, which is a **** disaster. The MLS in the US draws like a 0.2 rating on ESPN which is horrid. Hell, their 7:45am season opener for Hull/Chelsea got bigger ratings than a Beckham game in primetime in MLS.
Sure, if there was a way to get EPL or Serie A games here in primetime they'd draw very well, but unfortunately we're stuck with morning games.
I expect that virtually all of the TFC audience comes from the GTA right now, and I think MLS isn’t going to be a national draw until we get one or two other teams in Canada, and in 2011 Vancouver will be in and I don’t think Montreal will be far behind. Calgary may even be able to support a team as there is a huge immigrant population there as well as a strong grass roots soccer program. (Owen Hargreaves was born and played all his soccer in Calgary before being signed to the Bayern Munich under 19 team when he was 16.) Once MLS gains a national profile I think it could really take off, because there are a lot more Canadians who are familiar with the game now, and imo it’s a much better game than it used to be 10 years ago. I think technology – particularly the ability to bend and generally control the ball more - and conditioning have produced a lot more flow and creativity in the game. Long time soccer fans may wish to dispute that but that’s what I see. In the mean time NHL hockey has become the dumbed down and quite boring Bettman style of hockey, and I could easily see a spill over from hockey to soccer. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Canadian MLS games in a few years are regularly drawing audiences of 300,000.