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OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad

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OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad 

Post#1 » by Rhettmatic » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:39 pm

Deal is done.

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STEIN_LINE_HQ Deal could be completed as soon as today. Raja Bell and Radmanovic for Jackson
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STEIN_LINE_HQ Just filed to ESPN: Warriors and Bobcats are in serious talks on a Stephen Jackson trade. Very serious talks


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UPDATE: Stein says Charlotte also get Acie Law.

All signs point to this deal going down today. Warriors are also expected to send Acie Law with Jack to Charlotte for Bell and Radmanovic
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#2 » by redeye514 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:44 pm

Raptors need a jackson esque player.

If BC wasn't married to our '#1 offence', we could easily try to peddle Bargnani and Caldy to try and put some pieces around Bosh that actually compliment his skills.
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#3 » by tecumseh18 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:45 pm

I feel sick. I know Jax doesn't fit in on the Raps long-term plans, but what a garbage package. Basically expirings. Raja Bell was great, three years ago.
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#4 » by Rhettmatic » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:48 pm

Update from Stein: Charlotte also gets Acie Law.

All signs point to this deal going down today. Warriors are also expected to send Acie Law with Jack to Charlotte for Bell and Radmanovic
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#5 » by ATLTimekeeper » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:49 pm

At first I thought "what a great deal for Charlotte," but they're giving up pretty much all of their 3 point shooting.
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Post#6 » by supersub15 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:51 pm

Why are posters still drooling over Jackson? Dude is a cancer, and isn't anything special to start with. Geez.
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#7 » by ATLTimekeeper » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:53 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:I feel sick. I know Jax doesn't fit in on the Raps long-term plans, but what a garbage package. Basically expirings. Raja Bell was great, three years ago.


Bell is still pretty useful. He's a better shooter/rebounder and still a solid defender. SJax is a better passer/chucker. And Charlotte gets stiffed with that contract without addressing any weaknesses.
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#8 » by rdtx2005 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:53 pm

supersub15 wrote:Why are posters still drooling over Jackson? Dude is a cancer, and isn't anything special to start with. Geez.


agreed.. it's not like SJax is going to make the Raptors 'that' much better..
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#9 » by I hate pod 6 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:58 pm

I still think this is a great deal for Charlotte. Jackson's off court and on court antics can be a distraction sometimes but the guy can ball, great two way player.
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#10 » by There There » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:00 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:I feel sick. I know Jax doesn't fit in on the Raps long-term plans, but what a garbage package. Basically expirings. Raja Bell was great, three years ago.


Captain Jack would be a bad fit for this team short term and long term.

He's almost a carbon copy of Hedo on the offensive end, and he's a year older with three years+ remaining on his contract at almost the same amount.

And i'm not convinced Jackson would be happy being a fourth or fifth option on offense, especially coming from his role in Golden State.

In short, even if we got him for garbage, it would probably turn out bad.

Good fit for Charlotte though. Although now i'm really confused what the Okafor deal was for. They took on more short term salary in an effort to give up long term salary, and now they're reversing it and taking back much more long term salary.
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#11 » by springbreak » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:00 pm

Jackson gets what he deserved...traded to an even worse team. I don't get why people are so jazzed on this dude, he would completely murder the chemistry on the team. He is best suited for a poor team where he can put up great personal stats and contribute nothing to a winning environment, this will make Golden State a lot better (even if they got nothing in return they would be improved).
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Post#12 » by supersub15 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:02 pm

By the way, does a player ever feel stable with Larry Brown?
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#14 » by redeye514 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:04 pm

supersub15 wrote:Why are posters still drooling over Jackson? Dude is a cancer, and isn't anything special to start with. Geez.


Who's drooling? Me saying the Raptors need a 'Jackson esque' player?

Uh, the raps DO need a hard nosed player who plays 2 way ball, takes guarding his man with personal pride (especially on the wing), and brings an attitude / swagger to the court... whether that player is Jackson or someone else, the raps need this..
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Post#15 » by True Fu-Schnick » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:05 pm

Before we say things like contribute nothing to a winning environment, lets remember he was a big contributor of a spurs team that won the championship.
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#16 » by rdtx2005 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:05 pm

redeye514 wrote:
supersub15 wrote:Why are posters still drooling over Jackson? Dude is a cancer, and isn't anything special to start with. Geez.


Who's drooling? Me saying the Raptors need a 'Jackson esque' player?

Uh, the raps DO need a hard nosed player who plays 2 way ball, takes guarding his man with personal pride (especially on the wing), and brings an attitude / swagger to the court... whether that player is Jackson or someone else, the raps need this..


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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#17 » by redeye514 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:07 pm

rdtx2005 wrote:
redeye514 wrote:
supersub15 wrote:Why are posters still drooling over Jackson? Dude is a cancer, and isn't anything special to start with. Geez.


Who's drooling? Me saying the Raptors need a 'Jackson esque' player?

Uh, the raps DO need a hard nosed player who plays 2 way ball, takes guarding his man with personal pride (especially on the wing), and brings an attitude / swagger to the court... whether that player is Jackson or someone else, the raps need this..


Hedo


I hope that's a joke.
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#18 » by rdtx2005 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:09 pm

redeye514 wrote:
rdtx2005 wrote:
Hedo


I hope that's a joke.


partially.. they are similar players on offense IMO.
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#19 » by The Notic » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:10 pm

This is a good move for the "Cats. They desperately need a scorer and a guy who can initiate an offense. S-Jax probably had the lowest price tag of any guy who can do that while also fitting into what LB is trying to do there defensively.
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Re: OT: Stephen Jackson to Charlotte for Raja Bell, Vlad-Rad? 

Post#20 » by MrBojangelz71 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:13 pm

supersub15 wrote:Why are posters still drooling over Jackson? Dude is a cancer, and isn't anything special to start with. Geez.


This board is plagued with posters who yearn for any player currently not in a Raps uni regardless of their talents or demeanor.

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